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Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:00 PM

 

Fucking commies...

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Reply Fucking commies... (Original post)
Photographer Jul 2016 OP
JanMichael Jul 2016 #1
Photographer Jul 2016 #2
SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #3
Xolodno Jul 2016 #4
Photographer Jul 2016 #5
nikto Jul 2016 #11
Xolodno Jul 2016 #13
Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #12
Onyrleft Jul 2016 #6
Photographer Jul 2016 #8
ErikJ Jul 2016 #7
Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #9
NuclearDem Jul 2016 #10
colsohlibgal Jul 2016 #14

Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:48 PM

1. I know I know. When I read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee I lost it.

Our religion backed and inspired Manifest Destiny was evil pure evil.

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Response to JanMichael (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:54 PM

2. Yes. It was and still is.

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:57 PM

3. All primitive peoples

Lived, by necessity, in "communistic"
societies.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:49 PM

4. Communism has worked....

...on a local level quite well. Tell that to conservative farmers who are part of a co-op and they'll go nuts...despite practicing a form of communism (where the theory of communism came from)

However, on the large regional or national scale, its failed horribly. And I am a firm believer it can't work at our technological level.

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Response to Xolodno (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:03 PM

5. Then you may be short sighted.

 

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Response to Photographer (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:54 PM

11. Worker-owned cooperatives are a great way to go

 

Cooperatives could work under our present system, IMO, because they would have independence, like current companies.


The problem with the gov't owning business is the lack of transparency and the insider-dealings
that government, as currently composed, has the potential for, so it ends up much like the greedy
private-corporate sector, but even less-effcient.

We could only have successful Communism if we had totally "naked government", where almost nothing would be secret or unexposed,
other than a few narrow military-security concerns. The People would actually have to own their own gov't,
and we are far from that now. Insiders seem to control most areas of importance, including elite corporate insider-influence
of even regulatory agencies like the EPA.

Until all government truly belongs to The People (and not elites), Communism will not be possible as a workable system.

Total gov't reform must take place 1st, IMO.

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Response to Photographer (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:50 PM

13. You offored a quick insult.

But didn't offer any proof. I happen to think that communism is a great system...only a few problems. The populace as a whole still values "greed". Furthermore, we lack the means to equip the populace a basic standard of living.

Communism and absolute Capitalism are great on paper. But in application, don't work. Society isn't there yet (that is, valuing society over self...but we on our way), and likely not to be in our life times. And I really hope I'm wrong...but I have to take the realist approach. The "greed is good" memo is not going to go away quietly when it resonates with too many.

So call me "short sighted"...but you can't call me as someone who doesn't recognize reality.

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Response to Xolodno (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:02 PM

12. Do try to understand ...

... it's never The System ...

... it's always the character of the Humans that run it ...

... usually, over time ... right into the ground ...

... it's what Humans do ...

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:03 PM

6. Hawkwind


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Response to Onyrleft (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:09 PM

8. That sounded like Reagan mumbling.

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:04 PM

7. No, u mean fucking Connies.

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:21 PM

9. Wounded Knee Massacre

... "By the time it was over,more than 150 men, women, and children of the Lakota had been killed and 51 were wounded (4 men and 47 women and children, some of whom died later); some estimates placed the number of dead at 300. Twenty-five soldiers also died, and 39 were wounded (6 of the wounded later died). At least twenty soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor. In 2001, the National Congress of American Indians passed two resolutions condemning the awards and called on the U.S. government to rescind them." ...
[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Honor|

AUSTIN, WILLIAM G.
Rank and organization: Sergeant, Company E, 7th U.S. Cavalry. Place and date: At Wounded Knee Creek, S. Dak., 29 December 1890. Entered service at: New York, N.Y. Birth: Galveston, Tex. Date of issue: 27 June 1891. Citation: While the Indians were concealed in a ravine, assisted men on the skirmish line, directing their fire, etc., and using every effort to dislodge the enemy.

FEASTER, MOSHEIM
Rank and organization: Private, Company E, 7th U.S. Cavalry. Place and date: At Wounded Knee Creek, S. Dak., 29 December 1890. Entered service at: Schellburg, Pa. Birth: Schellburg, Pa. Date of issue: 23 June 1891. Citation: Extraordinary gallantry.

... etc., etc., etc. ...

GARLINGTON, ERNEST A.
Rank and organization: First Lieutenant, 7th U.S. Cavalry. Place and date: At Wounded Knee Creek, S. Dak., 29 December 1890. Entered service at: Athens, Ga. Born: 20 February 1853, Newberry, S.C. Date of issue: 26 September 1893. Citation: Distinguished gallantry.

GRESHAM, JOHN C.
Rank and organization: First Lieutenant, 7th U.S. Cavalry. Place and date: At Wounded Knee Creek, S. Dak., 29 December 1890. Entered service at: Lancaster Courthouse, Va. Birth: Virginia. Date of issue: 26 March 1895. Citation: Voluntarily led a party into a ravine to dislodge Sioux Indians concealed therein. He was wounded during this action.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:29 PM

14. Manifest Destiny Was Nonsense

Amazing that anyone bought that and many did.

And to this day we celebrate Columbus for discovering America...when he was at least 10,000 years late.

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