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Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:10 PM

 

As an atheist I have always given a nod of respect to the Jesuists of today.

They seem to be more inclined to carry on the "teachings of Christ" than most others. Certainly the Evangelicals in that Kaine walked the walk. Great Veep choice, Hil.

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Reply As an atheist I have always given a nod of respect to the Jesuists of today. (Original post)
Photographer Jul 2016 OP
malaise Jul 2016 #1
Photographer Jul 2016 #2
SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #5
Photographer Jul 2016 #10
Koinos Jul 2016 #3
gwheezie Jul 2016 #4
Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #6
Squinch Jul 2016 #7
CharlotteVale Jul 2016 #8
Photographer Jul 2016 #9

Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:12 PM

1. I'll join you when they condemn

the for profit monopoly of 'Catholic hospitals' that try to impose their worldview on sick people who only want medical treatment

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:17 PM

2. I don't believe it's that simple.

 

They have hospices that care naught for anything other than suffering.

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Response to Photographer (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:12 PM

5. I agree, it's rarely that simple n/t

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:08 AM

10. Thx

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:22 PM

3. I agree with you, Photographer.

Both Tim Kaine and Martin O'Malley were educated by Jesuits, and they were both imbued with the principles of liberal social justice. The history of the Jesuits and their relationship and conflicts with orthodox Catholicism are a very interesting read. I have been privileged to have known a number of very remarkable Jesuits.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:42 PM

4. I'm an atheist and work in a Catholic hospital

They walk the walk here. In 40 years of nursing, I'm glad I wound here to end my career after working for some sleazy outfits, like the Rick Scott scam of healthcare.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:26 PM

6. I thought I could be a gay Jesuit priest. I canít believe how wrong I was...

 

Over time, I realized I could not be part of an institution that hated me. I thought of the anti-gay legislation in countries like Uganda and Russia. I didnít want to be part of an organization with similar policies, where LGBT Catholics are fired for loving their partners, for being the selves God created, the selves God delights in.

Iíve since left the priesthood and have pursued a different religious life with the Episcopal church.

But I am not the only victim. LGBTQ Roman Catholics are being fired from employment, simply because of their sexuality.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/09/17/i-thought-i-could-be-a-gay-jesuit-priest-i-cant-believe-how-wrong-i-was/


That's walking a walk, but not one I can support.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:33 PM

7. I was educated by Jesuits before I stopped being a Catholic. I was always

proud of their social justice message, but I have just started to learn about the fact that they were big old slave traders and a lot of their wealth came from slavery.

I can't tell you how disgusted and disappointed I am.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:34 PM

8. They don't believe I have a right to control my own body.

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Response to CharlotteVale (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:06 PM

9. I don't agree with all they say, but I know of few groups that I do.

 

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