Okay, Donald. The Munich guy was mentally ill.

[Photographer]

Whatcha gonna do? Declare war on the mentally ill?

[awake]

1. He was also a racist full of hate just like Donald

[Photographer]

2. +100

[Tal Vez]

3. Well, we don't know all of the facts yet,

but it seems that he may have been a Trump fan.

[former9thward]

4. He was an Islamic terrorist.

[Photographer]

6. No, he was a sick motherfucker that just happened to be Muslim.

How many Christian terrorists can we list?

[former9thward]

9. I don't know.

Why don't you list them?

[Photographer]

11. Well, we can start with Whitman in TX

The National Guard at Kent State, Columbine... I could go on but it makes me ill.

[former9thward]

12. They killed to promote Christianity?

Quite a re-write of history....

[Photographer]

13. I believe in they might have.

Christians don't seem to like any institution that promotes critical thought that might fault the belief that there is a magic men in the sky controlling everything.

[former9thward]

17. You are really bending over backwards to protect Islam in this.

[uppityperson]

26. Where have they said this guy killed to promote Islam?

[former9thward]

27. "They" have said very little.

But there is a thing called common sense which some have. I am not dependent on a "they" telling me what to think.

[uppityperson]

31. Even though it's been reported he didn't do this for a religious reason, your "common sense" makes

tells you otherswise?

I think what you are calling "common sense" is instead assumptions based on minimal facts but prejudices and rumor.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/world/europe/munich-shooting-attack.html?_r=0

...
But unlike those two attacks, the one in Munich appeared, based on initial evidence, to have no overt links to the Islamic State or other terrorist groups, officials said Saturday. Nor did it seem to be directly linked to the wave of migration that has fueled racial, ethnic and religious tensions in Germany and across Europe.

Instead, according to accounts by the police, prosecutors, and neighbors and schoolmates of Mr. Sonboly, this most recent assault appeared to be of a less ideological and more personal sort: a sudden, violent outlet for a quietly troubled young man.

There were indications that Mr. Sonboly’s rampage might not have been entirely without political overtones. It was carried out on the fifth anniversary of a massacre in Norway by Anders Behring Breivik, a right-wing extremist who killed 77 people. Asked about a possible link based on the date, the Munich police chief, Hubertus Andrä, said that “this connection is obvious” and was part of their investigation.

[BeyondGeography]

7. About as much of an Islamic terrorist as Adam Lanza

[former9thward]

10. Did Lanza shout "Allahu Akbar", as he did his killing?

[BeyondGeography]

14. He had to remind himself to do that

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/world/europe/munich-shooting-attack.html?_r=0

[NobodyHere]

15. Do we know this is true?

I've only heard 1 semi-anonymous witness on CNN say that.

[6chars]

28. do we know anything is ever true?

i heard that witness on cnn and she sounded credible. i think the woman who spoke about this may have been the only witness to it. the police will likely check out her story. seems like an odd thing to lie about. she also said she was muslim - which is something they can easily check out. it would be odd for a muslim, first thing after observing the most horrific thing imaginable, to make up a lie to make the attacker seem motivated by her own religion.

[uppityperson]

32. Most media are saying he yelled "I am German" and more about being bullied. Not what was previously

reported and claimed here. This is on video, here's a link including transcript. Nothing there about "Allahu akbar" at all.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/23/i-am-german-munich-gunman-took-part-in-shouting-match-during-attack

[NobodyHere]

34. The Allahu Akbar was allegedly said at a different point in time.

[gwheezie]

16. I occasionally scream Jesus fucking christ

And I'm an atheist

[former9thward]

18. While you are slaughtering people?

[gwheezie]

19. If I started slaughtering people

I might yell Jesus fucking Christ or any number of phrases.

[former9thward]

21. Yes and I'm sure based on that Christian social media would be posting videos

celebrating what you had done and a Christian terrorist group would be claiming credit for it. Yep, I'm sure that would happen. I was told by another poster that Charles Whitman and the Kent State National Guard were terrorists who killed to promote their version of Christianity. Learn something everyday...

[gwheezie]

24. Don't get me wrong

I think Islam is messed up but I don't know how you make the leap this was Islamist terrorism based on what he yelled. Or are you assuming anyone who is Muslim who commits mass murder is a muslim terrorist based on yelling 2 words.

[SticksnStones]

20. He was a mentally unbalanced kid

Bullied daily by some accounts, pushed to a rage-state...goes on to form a a fixation with mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik. Add in a gun and a bucket of bullets and tragedy is created.

Where in that description to you read Muslim terrorist?

[former9thward]

22. That is your description.

So of course I will not read Muslim terrorist.

[SticksnStones]

23. It's what's been reported. Check the Times story.

Check any news outlet's reporting.

Except maybe Breitbart. I'm sure they'll follow the Muslim terrorist narrative.

[6chars]

29. Is there evidence he had a fixation on Breivik?

The NYTimes article has the police give a statement that would normally justify stating it as a hypothesis but not as a conclusion:

There were indications that Mr. Sonboly’s rampage might not have been entirely without political overtones. It was carried out on the fifth anniversary of a massacre in Norway by Anders Behring Breivik, a right-wing extremist who killed 77 people. Asked about a possible link based on the date, the Munich police chief, Hubertus Andrä, said that “this connection is obvious” and was part of their investigation.

“We must assume that he was aware of this attack,” Chief Andrä said.

[SticksnStones]

33. From the BBC

The 18-year-old gunman who killed nine people in Munich was obsessed with mass shootings but had no known links to the Islamic State group, German police say.
Written material on such attacks was found in his room, and Munich's police chief spoke of links to the massacre by Norway's Anders Behring Breivik.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36874497

[6chars]

35. This is the obvious link

He had a picture of mass killer Anders Breivik as his WhatsApp profile.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3704706/Munich-murderer-18-picture-mass-killer-Anders-Breivik-WhatsApp-profile-police-probe-obvious-link-two.html

Wow.

[muriel_volestrangler]

25. There's some evidence he had converted to Christianity

Inevitably, there continues to be much speculation on social media about Sonboly’s religious background. The German interior minister, Thomas de Maizière, said there was some evidence he was a Christian.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/22/munich-shooting-police-evacuate-shopping-centre-live?page=with:block-57938b77e4b0f04cc9866b19#block-57938b77e4b0f04cc9866b19

But there isn't any evidence he was a devout Muslim. There is, however, lots of evidence he had an obsession with school killing sprees, and had mental health problems.

[liberal N proud]

5. He might

[spanone]

8. (Whatcha gonna do? Declare war on the mentally ill?)....that would not surprise me one bit.

he's insane. i truly believe it.

[aikoaiko]

30. You realize the mentally ill were the first to go in the Halocaust, right?

He very well could declare a war on the mentally ill.