Stop drinking alcohol

[apcalc]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5792c2ede4b0d3568f83637e

"But many epidemiologists agree that research confirms alcohol actually causes cancer,"...

[bigwillq]

1. I'm sure it does, but No, I will not stop.

Lol

[FrodosPet]

3. Everything gives you cancer

No caffeine.
No protein.
No booze, or
Nicotine.

[ms liberty]

12. Great song. Great album. n/t

[ErikJ]

2. Maybe binge drinking does but not casual

[bigwillq]

5. ...

Nearly 6 percent of cancer deaths worldwide can be linked to alcohol, including in people who drink light to moderate amounts of alcohol.

From the link

[Major Nikon]

21. "can be linked" means the evidence is correlative

If things like smoking and other factors that increase the risk of cancer aren't factored out, then the correlative evidence doesn't tell you that much.

[apcalc]

6. The article refers to all drinking....

[Warpy]

9. Ethanol is a poison

and even light to moderate drinking was studied and found problematic.

Alcohol is also a favorite social lubricant so I can't imagine that even a sane drug policy instead of the WOD would make much of a dent in the number of people who drink it.

[RegexReader]

31. It would be more correct to call alcohol a

solvent. Water is the first universal solvent. Alcohols are the second universal solvent.

[Motown_Johnny]

39. I have never heard of water poisioning.

Alcohol poisoning on the other hand........

[RegexReader]

42. A link for you on water intoxication(aka poisoning)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

Water intoxication, also known as water poisoning, is a potentially fatal disturbance in brain functions that results when the normal balance of electrolytes in the body is pushed outside safe limits by overhydration.

[RegexReader]

43. to take it a step further, caffeine poisoning is also possible

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Overdose

In cases of much larger overdoses, mania, depression, lapses in judgment, disorientation, disinhibition, delusions, hallucinations, or psychosis may occur, and rhabdomyolysis (breakdown of skeletal muscle tissue) can be provoked.[98][99]

Massive overdose can result in death.[100][101] The LD50 of caffeine in humans is dependent on individual sensitivity, but is estimated to be 150 to 200 milligrams per kilogram of body mass (75–100 cups of coffee for a 70 kilogram adult).[102] A number of fatalities have been caused by overdoses of readily available powdered caffeine supplements, for which the estimated lethal amount is less than a tablespoon.

[Spider Jerusalem]

4. Never really started

I may have a drink once every six months, or so, if that often.

[etherealtruth]

16. Same here, i didn't care for it and saw no reason to drink if I didn't like it nt

[Jemmons]

28. A lot of people have a weak response to alcohol

Which means that there is not a lot of potential for becoming dependent. Those who get a big spike of endorphins are in much greater danger of getting into a bad habit.


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source: http://www.resourceaddiction.com/naltrexone-alcohol/

What Stewart is pointing to is the fact that some people are in risk for alcoholism exactly because they are more sensitive to alcohol: Their bodies will react to alcohol with a much larger effect on endorphin levels after drinking. This probably just a genetic quirk, but it this kind of sensitivity can have a big impact on the probability that someone will become addicted to alcohol.

[Freddie]

49. I lost my taste for it

Drank plenty in college but never developed any tolerance. 3 beers I'm drunk. Then during 9 months of abstinence due to pregnancy I totally lost any desire to drink. My daughter is 30 so it's been a long time! I'll have a tablespoon of wine at Holy Communion twice a month.

[Android3.14]

7. No? Really? Golly.

I hear cigarettes might be bad too, and crack cocaine.

[Silver_Witch]

8. Guess I am a dead woman then....

such is life!

[Mz Pip]

30. Yeah, me too.

I've given up desserts. I've given up fried foods. I don't eat much meat. I eat lots of fresh fruit send vegetables. I keep my weight down. I move.

So now I shouldn't have my wine with dinner.

I'm not going to live forever. Something will take me out and if genetics are any indicator it won't be cancer. I'll stroke out at 90 like all my old female great aunts.

May I have another glass of Reisling please?

[Silver_Witch]

58. I am with you Mz Pip...

I refuse to give up one more thing for a life with no joy....

Margarita for me

[LuvNewcastle]

10. Life kills you.

Sooner or later, everyone who lives eventually dies.

[ileus]

11. Never started...nasty tasting crap.

[Nevernose]

13. Do you mean right now? Tonight? This weekend?

Because the answer, my friend, is a resounding no. I might pause here and there, so I assume the cancer will, too. That's how biology works, right?

[NightWatcher]

14. And start smokin weed, snoochie boochies

[Nevernose]

19. Why not both?

[Loki Liesmith]

53. Nah. Hate inhalants.

Bad stink.

[Brickbat]

15. Nope.

[cwydro]

17. My mother is 90.

Still makes a mean martini.

And she can drink me under the table any day of the week.

[Logical]

45. Which I am sure you know means nothing. People smoke till 90s also. nt

[cwydro]

48. Um, ok.

[HuckleB]

63. The plural of anecdote is not data.

[tavernier]

18. Just how much longer do you think you will live

without a drink or a steak or a smoke or cookie or a kiss from a dog or a vacation in the Alps sniffing fumes from a tour bus?

Maybe 20 miserable years longer than me.

I give you your Depends and Ensure years. Gladly.

[Mendocino]

20. My best friend,

excessive drinker and smoker, died two years ago of throat, lung and brain cancer at the age of 57. Time from diagnosis to death was about 5 1/2 months. He suffered terribly.

[Freddie]

52. My sister-in-law

Is slowly dying of COPD after decades of smoking. On an oxygen tank 24/7 and pretty much can't leave the house as her lungs can't tolerate heat or cold. She's only 62.
Her moron husband (DH's brother) still smokes.

[Aristus]

22. Hell no. I'm probably going to die of cancer anyway.

Family history.

Grandfather: Lung cancer - (he smoked, so no surprise there.)

Father: Pancreatic cancer - (didn't smoke, drank in moderation, fitness enthusiast.)

If I give up alcohol, I won't live longer; it'll just seem longer...

[SheilaT]

23. What about the research that shows moderate drinking

is good for you?

The one thing, and pretty much the only one thing that is conclusively shown to cause cancer is smoking. And that causation is very strong.

All the other studies that link something or another with an increased risk of something, are pretty much correlation, rather than causation. And sometimes, even when the correlation is quite strong, it's an increase in an already very low chance of getting whatever disease is being looked at.

In the end, everything can be shown to be linked to some terrible something. And all of you who avoid various things to insure you won't get some awful disease, you're probably giving up something you'd enjoy for almost no improvement or lengthening of your life.

Me? I'm going to cheerfully drink as long as I can.

[MohRokTah]

24. NO!!

"Relax. Don't worry. Have a homebrew."

-- Charlie Papzian

[HipChick]

25. What else you got?

Every fucking thing kills yer..

[daleo]

26. But moderate intake has been shown to increase cardiovascular health

Which has an overall benefit.

[milestogo]

27. And if you're going to have cancer, its best that

you should have it along with good cardiovascular health.

[daleo]

56. Or, it's ok to die of a heart attack, as long as you are cancer free.

[JI7]

32. i read another study this wasn't really true

[HuckleB]

64. Yeah, that's been shown to have been overplayed by bad journalism.

Still, people seem to need some excuse.

Either be ok with drinking and its side effects or not, but don't pretend you're getting benefits to make yourself feel better about it.

[ZombieHorde]

29. But alcohol goes so well with my smokes. nt

[hardluck]

33. So I play beer league hockey

But I'm not supposed to drink beer?? That's crazy talk.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

34. No.

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The lead will get me soon enough anyway.

[malaise]

35. WHen they show me comparative studies from countries

where people do not drink alcohol, I'll think about it.

[Major Nikon]

44. What about the animal studies?

[malaise]

46. Hehehehehhe

Nah

[Motown_Johnny]

36. I pretty much already have.

On rare occasion I will have a beer with co-workers or a glass of wine with a meal, but that is it.

Monitoring my liver functions because of medications I am on and my numbers stay in the normal range when my alcohol consumption is next to nothing. Not.that I was a heavy drinker before this but cutting it way way down made a noticable difference.

[SheriffBob]

37. alcohol

is classified as a toxin. However, so is most tap water

However, it does relieve stress a lot and stress is a huge factor in causing many different health problems.

"there' s a lot more old drunks than their are old doctors"

[Vinca]

38. Come election night I might go back to drinking.

[hobbit709]

40. Name me any form of human activity and I'll find you a group of people against it.

[Maeve]

41. "And if moonshine don't kill me, I'll live til I die"

[blogslut]

47. Nobody gets out alive.

[Stellababy2]

50. why not

why not man

[6chars]

51. Read the study

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.13477/epdf

It is in a major journal, so that gives it credibility. On the other hand, the meta-analysis itself has some tempering features, e.g., rates for certain types of cancers that are higher in drinkers than non-drinkers, but where there is no difference in heavy drinkers and light drinkers (that is often a signal that there is correlation but not causation). After reading it closely, my sense is still that heavy drinking - as is well known already - is responsible for all sorts of deaths, while the impact of light drinking is close to nil and much of the statistical effects there are for light drinking might be due to lifestyle factors that go along with it but are not accounted for in the study.

Somebody get me a doctor. Somebody give me a shot.

[daleo]

57. Your comments are well considered

I think the evidence shows that light drinking has some positive effects, but the stress is on "light". The tables get turned pretty quickly as consumption goes up.

[Bad Thoughts]

61. I think the definition of light should be reconsidered

Two drinks per night for a man seems a bit much. 2 pints of beer (relatively week, not specialty) would get the average man close to the point of being impaired when driving.

[Bad Thoughts]

54. "Addiction," not an oncology journal

Let alone a general medical journal, whose author is also one of the journals associate editors, who works in a field that tends to deliver results with excessive alarm.

[6chars]

55. good insights

reduces even further the amount i will worry about it.

[JHB]

68. On top of that, the real measure for an article like this...

...is how it holds up over time.Let's check back on how well it's regarded in 5 or 10 years, when the follow-up work consists of papers more substantial than a press release.

[DFW]

59. I can't stop. Physical impossibility.

I never started.

[Throd]

60. Fuck that noise!

[HuckleB]

62. I have to wonder how many of the people who refuse to consider this...

... are liking and freaking out about pseudoscience claiming problems with things like glyphosate.

It's astounding to see such massive disconnect at DU.

[nolabels]

65. I don't drink alcohol for many reasons, but if it's true, it's just one more reason for me

I would basically lose my Job if was a drinker. My blood pressure shoots up like a rocket if i do and it needs to stay low so i can pass my DMV physical to keep my commercial drivers license which my employer requires me to have. And besides, about one can of beer will make me blow over my legal limit for driving which is .004.

That crap messes your health up in so many ways but at least it isn't illegal anymore. That compounding in prohibition was really stupid in retrospect.

[KamaAina]

66. As soon as you stop breathing air.

Polluted air causes cancer, too.

[cherokeeprogressive]

67. Kiss mah grits.

[bluedigger]

69. Sunlight causes cancer as well.

The life of an abstemious troll ill suits me.