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Bernie Sanders not taking bait on shows: (Original Post) kpete Jul 2016 OP
Well played Bernie rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #1
Well said sir! hrmjustin Jul 2016 #2
Those that are gleefully pushing this divisive crap sufrommich Jul 2016 #3
Some people just like to stir shit up for the sake of stirring shit up. calimary Jul 2016 #14
Some people have their own agenda. Others are lost in it. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #21
+1 kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #54
I saw two different interviews with Bernie this morning and I thought he did very well. Arkansas Granny Jul 2016 #4
I never thought Bernie was an asshole gwheezie Jul 2016 #5
They were like Mulder and Scully compared to the Republicans Frank Cannon Jul 2016 #45
Bernie is a career politician... Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #6
Well, he's always caucused with the Democrats. longship Jul 2016 #25
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #7
K&R! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #8
K&R lillypaddle Jul 2016 #9
“On his worst, worst, worst day, Tim Kaine is 100 times better than Donald Trump will ever be.” Cattledog Jul 2016 #10
celebrate Bernie when he's for Hillary retrowire Jul 2016 #11
You are correct /nt tonedevil Jul 2016 #12
The corruption Wikileaks confirmed is that Putin is helping Trump. nt. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #13
that is conjecture without proof and nothing more retrowire Jul 2016 #18
Guccifer 2.0 is Romanian. tonybgood Jul 2016 #20
Thank you retrowire Jul 2016 #23
See below, poster is uninformed. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #30
Guccifer 1 is a Romanian. This is Guccifer 2.0, a different person. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #29
Hmmm, confusing! Any citations? nt retrowire Jul 2016 #32
Of course, it is all over the Internet emulatorloo Jul 2016 #34
Thank you. An informed voter, is a correct voter. nt retrowire Jul 2016 #36
... emulatorloo Jul 2016 #38
A Romanian that doesn't speak Romanian, or at best, writes in broken Romanian? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #63
I'm not buying your defense of Putin. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #39
uhhhh retrowire Jul 2016 #40
There were no admissions by "Debbie." SunSeeker Jul 2016 #41
You could say the same for your Putin assertions hmm?? nt retrowire Jul 2016 #42
There you go defending Putin again... SunSeeker Jul 2016 #44
No, but it'd be awesome if he was. Arkana Jul 2016 #64
CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence- Sunlei Jul 2016 #59
As do others. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #60
+! FailureToCommunicate Jul 2016 #15
Yep Feeling the Bern Jul 2016 #17
What is your purpose here? Maven Jul 2016 #24
Hello internet stalker, retrowire Jul 2016 #31
More self-serving, intellectually dishonest nonsense. Maven Jul 2016 #43
mmhmm okay. retrowire Jul 2016 #46
Yes, that is it. pangaia Jul 2016 #26
That is truth.... Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #48
Glad to see you're on-board Tarc Jul 2016 #62
Chuck Todd Chitown879 Jul 2016 #16
never liked chuck todd... yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #19
He's a David Gregory clone, but with a tortured comb-forward. n/t TonyPDX Jul 2016 #27
Good for Bernie! ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #22
A classy man Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #28
Can always count on Bernie. zentrum Jul 2016 #33
His supporters have his back. NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #35
Good for him! eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #37
no surprise there fishwax Jul 2016 #47
Gotta love how Bernie handles the faux controversy questions. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #49
'Nother reason I love him. n/t Triana Jul 2016 #50
Bernie is being a great leader about this! Firebrand Gary Jul 2016 #51
Did anyone think he would? Warpy Jul 2016 #52
no surprise from me, and it should be no surprise to anyone else here either still_one Jul 2016 #53
He is and remains a class act.... 4bucksagallon Jul 2016 #55
Chuck Todd is a Media Whore Stainless Jul 2016 #56
Bernie is done, DWS is done - both partisan sides got what they wanted. HRC has her team. Rex Jul 2016 #57
Sanders great interview! Sunlei Jul 2016 #58
I expected no less from Bernie Sanders. Chemisse Jul 2016 #61

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
3. Those that are gleefully pushing this divisive crap
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jul 2016

don't care what Bernie thinks and most likely never did.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
14. Some people just like to stir shit up for the sake of stirring shit up.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jul 2016

Bernie himself does not appear to be one of them and I deeply appreciate that. I'm just glad to see all (or most) of us are working toward the same shared goal now. It's not just a campaign cliche - we ARE stronger when we're working together.

Arkansas Granny

(31,506 posts)
4. I saw two different interviews with Bernie this morning and I thought he did very well.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jul 2016

He made his support for Hillary quite clear while acknowledging that they still have some differences of opinion on how to accomplish their shared goals.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
5. I never thought Bernie was an asshole
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:08 AM
Jul 2016

I didn't vote for him in my primary but I thought the back and forth between Hillary and Bernie was pretty mild compared to some fights in the past.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
45. They were like Mulder and Scully compared to the Republicans
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jul 2016

They were like a bunch of starving, feral cats.

Blue Idaho

(5,038 posts)
6. Bernie is a career politician...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:11 AM
Jul 2016

And, it turns out, a man of his word. He has endorsed Hillary and he's not going to do the republicans work for them. I hope he stays in the party!

longship

(40,416 posts)
25. Well, he's always caucused with the Democrats.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jul 2016

Always! So one can make a credible argument that he is a Democrat (big D).

Vermont is a weird place politically. What they call an independent, everywhere else is called a Democrat. It's like the Democratic Farmer Labor (DFL) party in Minnesota. Does anybody credibly argue that it isn't the same as the national Democratic Party in any meaningful way? So much the same for Vermont independents.

Cattledog

(5,910 posts)
10. “On his worst, worst, worst day, Tim Kaine is 100 times better than Donald Trump will ever be.”
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jul 2016

Bernie Sanders

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
11. celebrate Bernie when he's for Hillary
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jul 2016

Call him a loser and tell him he lost the primary when he calls out the corruption confirmed by the DNCleaks.

That's the protocol right?

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
18. that is conjecture without proof and nothing more
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jul 2016

Russian hackers does not automatically mean Putin is pulling strings.

Anonymous hacks ISIS. Does that mean Obama is running Anonymous? No.

tonybgood

(218 posts)
20. Guccifer 2.0 is Romanian.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jul 2016

This Russian bs that's being pushed is just that: bullshit!!! Please refrain from trying to excuse what the DNC actually did. They have denied not one of the e-mails released. You do a disservice to Clinton and Sanders by propagating such a narrative.

emulatorloo

(44,063 posts)
34. Of course, it is all over the Internet
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jul 2016

From quick google:

Snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/17/guccifer-2-0-claims-responsibility-for-dnc-hack/

"a purported hacker calling himself Guccifer 2.0 (not to be confused with a separate hacker known as Guccifer"

It is my understanding that Guccifer 2.0 chose his handle as a tribute to Guccifer. That was widely reported in the initial Guccifer 2.O stories.


 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
63. A Romanian that doesn't speak Romanian, or at best, writes in broken Romanian? ...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jul 2016
Motherboard reporter Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai actually conversed with Guccifer 2.0 over Twitter. The hacker, who claimed to be Romanian, answered questions in short sentences that “were filled with mistakes according to several Romanian native speakers,” Bicchieri found.

A large body of evidence suggests that Guccifer 2.0 is a smokescreen that the actual culprits employed to hide their involvement in the breach.

http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
39. I'm not buying your defense of Putin.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jul 2016

You are repeating a Trump meme that Dems are corrupt. It is shameful to see on a Dem board.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
40. uhhhh
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:56 PM
Jul 2016

but the leaks... and even Debbie.... admitted... proved...

Okay then.

Putin sucks ass just for the record!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
59. CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence-
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:59 AM
Jul 2016

CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC
https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
60. As do others.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:04 AM
Jul 2016
Other security firms offered independent analysis and reached the same conclusion. The group Fidelis undertook their own investigation and found Crowdstrike to be correct.

A Twitter user named @PwnAlltheThings looked at the metadata on the docs that Guccifer 2.0 provided in his blog post and found literal Russian signatures.


http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/

Maven

(10,533 posts)
24. What is your purpose here?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jul 2016

Didn't you say you were officially "done" with our nominee? "Fuck you Hillary"...weren't those your words just two days ago?

Are you going to post another apology thread here and soak up the recs, and then post an apology for your apology over at the Temper Tantrum Collective?

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
31. Hello internet stalker,
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jul 2016

Allow me to explain.

I apologize to whomever feels slighted. It's the human thing to do.

I can change my opinions over time. And they do change. And they can BE changed. Another human characteristic, no surprise.

My purpose? Do I need one? Is there a position that should be applied for? Or maybe I can be a registered Democrat who joined the party for Bernie.

Maybe I can be a freshly minted Democrat who feels lied to and cheated?

Maybe I can be who I am? Is that a purpose? Would that appease you? Because in the end, I don't serve you.

But I'm not breaking the TOS here. So, carry on.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
43. More self-serving, intellectually dishonest nonsense.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jul 2016

Your opinion, as expressed by you two days ago, is that you despise Hillary Clinton and do not support the Democratic Party. So your motive in coming back here to push this particular story could only be to sow discord and undermine support for the nominee. Your own reply to me shows that you feel "lied to and cheated" and are here to redress a grievance from the primaries. That is a violation of the spirit, if not the letter, of the TOS.

And yes, people have the right to change their opinions in good faith. What they don't have the right to do is manipulate people on both sides of the fence and expect not to be called on it. I honestly didn't have the slightest idea who you were before this whole "public apology" gambit you pulled, but as a first impression, it was a doozy. Your actions have completely undermined any credibility or goodwill you might have built here.

As for the charge that I am "stalking" you, please do not flatter yourself. If you don't want to be noticed, then stop engaging in attention-seeking behavior. This is a community of grown-up progressives, many of whom have invested decades in the project of winning social and economic justice in small but significant, hard-won steps. I take comfort in the knowledge that we as a community far outnumber those "freshly minted" (and then un-minted, then sort-of-minted, and now I guess un-minted again?) interlopers who are prepared to see the whole country burn because they didn't get their way. Now, back to the Temper Tantrum Collective, I suppose, hopefully to do some deep thinking.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
46. mmhmm okay.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jul 2016

I can have my mind be changed. Events could happen after all.

And how am I manipulating anyone here?

Am I speaking ill of the candidate? No. I don't intend to break any of DU's rules here.

If you think I am, then feel free to alert me. It won't change how I feel in a very good way.

And please, don't be so hurt by my apology, it was sincere. My apologies to how I was to people have nothing to do with how I feel about the democratic process.

I can encourage unity and regret for my actions and still be upset about other things the next day. You know that right?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
26. Yes, that is it.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jul 2016

Many also don't see the margins, the subtleties, the different, multiple trails, the inflections, the gossamer threads,,,, it is either or....



ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
22. Good for Bernie!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jul 2016

I am so glad we are moving forward--Bernie is a formidable ally, and I am sure Hillary appreciates him

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
35. His supporters have his back.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jul 2016

They are fully aware of the constraints he is currently operating under.

PatrickforO

(14,558 posts)
49. Gotta love how Bernie handles the faux controversy questions.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jul 2016

RIGHT back to the issues. Thank you very much!

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
52. Did anyone think he would?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jul 2016

First, he's got too much class.

Second, he got most of the policy changes he wanted.

Third, he's endorsed Clinton.

Sanders played the game well for a first time candidate.

Stainless

(718 posts)
56. Chuck Todd is a Media Whore
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jul 2016

He really doesn't bring anything constructive to any conversation in which he is trying to participate!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
57. Bernie is done, DWS is done - both partisan sides got what they wanted. HRC has her team.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:19 AM
Jul 2016

Now all they have to do is keep the mainstream media from baiting them into losing votes by staying on target. Trump's campaign is in shambles, perfect timing for Team HRC to pounce.



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