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Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:56 PM

 

Bye, bye, Debbie.

Can't say I'm sad to see you go.

http://wtkr.com/2016/07/24/dnc-chair-wont-speak-at-dem-convention-following-wikileaks-fallout/

Sources saying she's out by end of day.

On edit: She's stepping down after the convention.

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Reply Bye, bye, Debbie. (Original post)
Photographer Jul 2016 OP
Jamaal510 Jul 2016 #1
truebluegreen Jul 2016 #5
Photographer Jul 2016 #23
LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #53
MohRokTah Jul 2016 #2
Throd Jul 2016 #4
MohRokTah Jul 2016 #7
MagickMuffin Jul 2016 #13
MohRokTah Jul 2016 #14
runaway hero Jul 2016 #20
MagickMuffin Jul 2016 #24
jack_krass Jul 2016 #16
Drahthaardogs Jul 2016 #17
Exilednight Jul 2016 #22
Moonwalk Jul 2016 #37
Exilednight Jul 2016 #45
Moonwalk Jul 2016 #52
Exilednight Jul 2016 #54
Boomerproud Jul 2016 #6
NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #10
MohRokTah Jul 2016 #11
edhopper Jul 2016 #25
jack_krass Jul 2016 #15
Rex Jul 2016 #19
Moonwalk Jul 2016 #38
Rex Jul 2016 #39
Moonwalk Jul 2016 #42
Rex Jul 2016 #46
Moonwalk Jul 2016 #50
Android3.14 Jul 2016 #28
MohRokTah Jul 2016 #29
Android3.14 Jul 2016 #47
MohRokTah Jul 2016 #48
Moonwalk Jul 2016 #41
PatSeg Jul 2016 #35
Rex Jul 2016 #3
Fla Dem Jul 2016 #12
LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #8
wildbilln864 Jul 2016 #9
jack_krass Jul 2016 #18
runaway hero Jul 2016 #21
TDale313 Jul 2016 #26
Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #27
Jackilope Jul 2016 #51
Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #56
KamaAina Jul 2016 #30
nolabels Jul 2016 #31
Photographer Jul 2016 #34
sarcasmo Jul 2016 #32
Still In Wisconsin Jul 2016 #33
Photographer Jul 2016 #36
Akoto Jul 2016 #40
Photographer Jul 2016 #43
avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #44
Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #49
Photographer Jul 2016 #55
bigwillq Jul 2016 #57

Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:58 PM

1. That would be

pretty dumb for her to resign now right in the heat of an election, especially considering that she'll be out by the start of next year anyway. From what I've seen, there wasn't any wrongdoing on her part.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:06 PM

5. Well, I guess she's pretty dumb then.

 

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:50 PM

23. She's too far right while the party seems to be turing the other way.

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:02 PM

2. I look forward to seeing her as the Chief of Staff of the White House in January. eom

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:06 PM

4. Why?

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Response to Throd (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:06 PM

7. She's one of the best Democrats out there and would be ideal for the position.

 

I expect she will end up in the position.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:20 PM

13. I would disagree with your assessment of her being one the "best" Democrats out there

When she deliberately endorses republican candidates over Democratic ones, then I don't think she has the distinction of being the "best" democrat. However, it would free up her seat for another Democrat to fill.

Good Riddance, DWS

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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:22 PM

14. Disagree all you like, that's your right.

 

But I'm pretty sure that now that she has fallen on her sword in the interest of party unity, Hillary will DEFINITELY reward her after the election and that will most likely be as White House Chief of Staff.

Hillary can find nobody better suited for the position.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:32 PM

20. Robby Mook.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:50 PM

24. I'd be glad to see her leave Congress n/t

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:26 PM

16. LMFAO

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:27 PM

17. As a strategist

She has been nothing short of awful. She is no Howard Dean

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:32 PM

22. If the number of seats she lost is any indication

Of how well she runs things, then we're all fuckesd.

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Response to Exilednight (Reply #22)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:50 PM

37. How many did she lose?

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #37)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:01 PM

45. Thanks to Howard Dean, she was left with our party controlling

Both chambers and the White House. Now we only have the White House. It was somewhere around 100 seats, and that doesn't include governorships and state legislators.

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Response to Exilednight (Reply #45)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:54 PM

52. Okay, I'm a little confused. I always thought that we lost a lot of seats because....

...of the tea bagger movement that came into being just after Dean left and pretty much swept it's way through America, and also thanks to black lash hatred of Obama. The NRA's power and the Supreme Court decisions that brought in Voter I.D. and corporations able to buy elections. All of which happened during Debbie's watch.

I mean, I don't mean to naive here...but telling me what Dean left us vs. what Debbie now has doesn't necessarily indicate cause/effect. That's simply a "post-hoc-ergo-proper-hoc" statement.

Can you educate me (provide me with evidence) as to what makes this a causal relationship irregardless of those other factors and puts her squarely to blame for losing those seats? :confused:

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #52)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:52 PM

54. She abandoned Dean's 50 state strategy.

She also abandoned pushing for Party positions and began posturing and pushing for her own positions, even when they went against (example: payday loans) party principles.

It has also been reported that she used DNC fundraising lists to fundraise for her own elections, something no other Democratic pol is allowed to do.

Dean expanded the GOTV effort and manages to grow the number of registered Democrats. DWS, once again, abandoned the effort and many people left the Party.

In a nutshell, Dean was about strengthening the party, DWS is about strengthening DWS.

I could go on, but I believe you are smart enough to see how these things impact the process and the direction the party is going in

Just a side note: I find it interesting that you bring up the tea party. Dean had his own version in the border militia groups ( if memory servese correctly they were called minute men) and have e managed to sideline their agenda before it got oxygen to expand.

By contrast, I have witnessed DWS in several public appearances throw fuel on the fire and feed the tea party movement. I believe that she believes she was using them as a foil, but she caught the sharp end of the sword due to her political flat footedness.

I know from personal experience that she views herself a political intellectual on the same level with Obama, but it's pretty clear that she's not nearly as savvy as he is, and in fact tends to act more like a blunt instrument wielded by a teenager as opposed to a surgeon's scalpel wielded by a highly trained neurologist.

Thanks for the question.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:06 PM

6. Huh?

n/t

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:07 PM

10. Good idea nt

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:08 PM

11. Yep, if she's falling on her sword of the Russian hacked emails, she deserves a stron position...

 

in the Clinton White House.

I cannot think of a better person to fulfill the role of White House Chief of Staff than Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:59 PM

25. Are you out of your fucking mind?

she is a shill for pay-day loan sharks and a horrible congressperson. She was a terrible chair for the DNC.

She didn't "fall on her sword" she was done to begin with and walked out the door before it was slammed in her face.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:25 PM

15. Of course you do

 

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Response to jack_krass (Reply #15)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:30 PM

19. I wish her luck at her next new job as CEO of Pay Day Loans!

 

I really do.

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Response to Rex (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:54 PM

38. Nope. Next job is helping Hilary run her campaign....

Which is fine.

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #38)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:55 PM

39. I mean after the convention.

 

She will be fine.

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Response to Rex (Reply #39)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:10 PM

42. Hillary's hired her for her campaign post convention. Done deal. Or do you mean after Trump wins?

Because if Hillary wins, Debbie will be on her staff, and yes, she will be fine.

If Trump wins...none of us will be fine.

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #42)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:13 PM

46. Fine as long as she is not in charge of the DNC, that is what I meant.

 

Can't wait to see who takes her place. Trump is going to win? Dream on.

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Response to Rex (Reply #46)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:41 PM

50. I didn't say he was going to win. You said Debbie would be working at...

...Pay Day Loans. What I meant, amid all this back and forth, is that she'd only be doing that if Trump wins because Hillary has pretty much guaranteed her a job after the convention and likely beyond that if Hillary wins. So, the only way Debbie is going to be working at Pay Day Loans is if Trump wins.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:26 PM

28. Because there is nothing better in a chief of staff than someone who undermines democracy?

 

Please explain.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #28)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:30 PM

29. Since nobody "undermined democracy", I have no clue what you are talking about. eom

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #29)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:02 PM

47. Aaaaaand the conversation becomes ludicrous

 

After this email release, your response lacks any justification.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #47)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:09 PM

48. Definitely ludicrous

 

but not because of the emails, only the phony reactions to the emails as there was nothing at all wrong with the emails.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #28)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:03 PM

41. DNC rules undermine democracy with those Super-D's. But no political party has to be democratic...

...A political party can run things however it likes. And if we're being honest, the American system of picking a president isn't democratic either. Electoral College, remember?

So, I'm not sure exactly how this woman undermined democracy if the DNC, by its very nature (rules, way of running things, etc.), was never democratic.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:08 PM

35. That's not going to happen

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:04 PM

3. She really has been an embarrassment to the party.

 

Can't say I will be sorry to see her replaced with someone that has integrity.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:06 PM

8. Good move.

This should help make the convention run much more smoothly.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:07 PM

9. & good riddance! n/t

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:27 PM

18. Good riddance. Too bad she couldn't have resigned before tarnishing the entire party

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:32 PM

21. bye!

all this nonsense is her fault.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:03 PM

26. Yeah, unfortunately not so much.

She's gonna be working in the Clinton camp on their 50 state strategy (cause she did so well in 2014)

Also, she gets to preside over the convention.

I'm happy she's out and cool with
Donna Brazille being interim chair till Nov

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:12 PM

27. She is stepping side-ways

Hillary is keeping her as "honorary chair" of her campaign.

You should have let her go Hillary. Too much bad-blood and controversy.

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Response to Equinox Moon (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:49 PM

51. Kick in the gut to Sanders supporters doing that.

I am not surprised and greatly disappointed in that move.

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Response to Jackilope (Reply #51)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:41 AM

56. me too.

Hillary, oh Hillary. DWS resigned because of controversy. Why oh why would you prolong the angst and keep her on your team? So sad. It was an opportunity for a clean break-up.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:30 PM

30. Bye Felicia!

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:32 PM

31. Yikes, this thread looks like a circular firing squad, remind me to duck

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Response to nolabels (Reply #31)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:07 PM

34. And there lies the beauty of being a Democrat. We can disgree without throwing chairs.

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:52 PM

32. Step in the right direction.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:05 PM

33. Na na naaah naaah...

 

Oh hell you know the rest.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #33)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:10 PM

36. LOL! You caused me to edit the OP!

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:02 PM

40. Not the end of the day. At the end of the convention.

Also, nobody likes grave dancers.

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Response to Akoto (Reply #40)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:25 PM

43. I guess you didn't read the entire post.

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:28 PM

44. Perfect song.

 

Bye bye Debbie.

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:27 PM

49. Should have happened when she denied the Bernie campaign access to their own database.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #49)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:50 AM

55. KA-CHING!

 

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Response to Photographer (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:47 AM

57. Good riddance.(nt)

 

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