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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBye, bye, Debbie.
Can't say I'm sad to see you go.
http://wtkr.com/2016/07/24/dnc-chair-wont-speak-at-dem-convention-following-wikileaks-fallout/
Sources saying she's out by end of day.
On edit: She's stepping down after the convention.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)pretty dumb for her to resign now right in the heat of an election, especially considering that she'll be out by the start of next year anyway. From what I've seen, there wasn't any wrongdoing on her part.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Photographer
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MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I expect she will end up in the position.
MagickMuffin
(15,933 posts)When she deliberately endorses republican candidates over Democratic ones, then I don't think she has the distinction of being the "best" democrat. However, it would free up her seat for another Democrat to fill.
Good Riddance, DWS
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)But I'm pretty sure that now that she has fallen on her sword in the interest of party unity, Hillary will DEFINITELY reward her after the election and that will most likely be as White House Chief of Staff.
Hillary can find nobody better suited for the position.
runaway hero
(835 posts)MagickMuffin
(15,933 posts)jack_krass
(1,009 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)She has been nothing short of awful. She is no Howard Dean
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Of how well she runs things, then we're all fuckesd.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Both chambers and the White House. Now we only have the White House. It was somewhere around 100 seats, and that doesn't include governorships and state legislators.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...of the tea bagger movement that came into being just after Dean left and pretty much swept it's way through America, and also thanks to black lash hatred of Obama. The NRA's power and the Supreme Court decisions that brought in Voter I.D. and corporations able to buy elections. All of which happened during Debbie's watch.
I mean, I don't mean to naive here...but telling me what Dean left us vs. what Debbie now has doesn't necessarily indicate cause/effect. That's simply a "post-hoc-ergo-proper-hoc" statement.
Can you educate me (provide me with evidence) as to what makes this a causal relationship irregardless of those other factors and puts her squarely to blame for losing those seats? :confused:
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)She also abandoned pushing for Party positions and began posturing and pushing for her own positions, even when they went against (example: payday loans) party principles.
It has also been reported that she used DNC fundraising lists to fundraise for her own elections, something no other Democratic pol is allowed to do.
Dean expanded the GOTV effort and manages to grow the number of registered Democrats. DWS, once again, abandoned the effort and many people left the Party.
In a nutshell, Dean was about strengthening the party, DWS is about strengthening DWS.
I could go on, but I believe you are smart enough to see how these things impact the process and the direction the party is going in
Just a side note: I find it interesting that you bring up the tea party. Dean had his own version in the border militia groups ( if memory servese correctly they were called minute men) and have e managed to sideline their agenda before it got oxygen to expand.
By contrast, I have witnessed DWS in several public appearances throw fuel on the fire and feed the tea party movement. I believe that she believes she was using them as a foil, but she caught the sharp end of the sword due to her political flat footedness.
I know from personal experience that she views herself a political intellectual on the same level with Obama, but it's pretty clear that she's not nearly as savvy as he is, and in fact tends to act more like a blunt instrument wielded by a teenager as opposed to a surgeon's scalpel wielded by a highly trained neurologist.
Thanks for the question.
n/t
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)in the Clinton White House.
I cannot think of a better person to fulfill the role of White House Chief of Staff than Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
edhopper
(33,554 posts)she is a shill for pay-day loan sharks and a horrible congressperson. She was a terrible chair for the DNC.
She didn't "fall on her sword" she was done to begin with and walked out the door before it was slammed in her face.
jack_krass
(1,009 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)I really do.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)Which is fine.
Rex
(65,616 posts)She will be fine.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)Because if Hillary wins, Debbie will be on her staff, and yes, she will be fine.
If Trump wins...none of us will be fine.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Can't wait to see who takes her place. Trump is going to win? Dream on.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...Pay Day Loans. What I meant, amid all this back and forth, is that she'd only be doing that if Trump wins because Hillary has pretty much guaranteed her a job after the convention and likely beyond that if Hillary wins. So, the only way Debbie is going to be working at Pay Day Loans is if Trump wins.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Please explain.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)After this email release, your response lacks any justification.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)but not because of the emails, only the phony reactions to the emails as there was nothing at all wrong with the emails.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...A political party can run things however it likes. And if we're being honest, the American system of picking a president isn't democratic either. Electoral College, remember?
So, I'm not sure exactly how this woman undermined democracy if the DNC, by its very nature (rules, way of running things, etc.), was never democratic.
PatSeg
(47,359 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Can't say I will be sorry to see her replaced with someone that has integrity.
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LuvNewcastle
(16,843 posts)This should help make the convention run much more smoothly.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)jack_krass
(1,009 posts)runaway hero
(835 posts)all this nonsense is her fault.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)She's gonna be working in the Clinton camp on their 50 state strategy (cause she did so well in 2014)
Also, she gets to preside over the convention.
I'm happy she's out and cool with
Donna Brazille being interim chair till Nov
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Hillary is keeping her as "honorary chair" of her campaign.
You should have let her go Hillary. Too much bad-blood and controversy.
Jackilope
(819 posts)I am not surprised and greatly disappointed in that move.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Hillary, oh Hillary. DWS resigned because of controversy. Why oh why would you prolong the angst and keep her on your team? So sad. It was an opportunity for a clean break-up.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)nolabels
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(1,142 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Oh hell you know the rest.
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(1,142 posts)Akoto
(4,266 posts)Also, nobody likes grave dancers.
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(1,142 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Bye bye Debbie.