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I have a solution to the problem--ban emails! (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jul 2016 OP
Is texting okay? nt DURHAM D Jul 2016 #1
No because someone can hack your phone. So texting is out. leftofcool Jul 2016 #2
Only to family and friends. TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #5
So the answer is revbones Jul 2016 #3
Well, not all of us are pure. leftofcool Jul 2016 #4
So you agree that the goal would be to just hide it better? nt revbones Jul 2016 #6
Look at it this way-- TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #10
Well, if the emails didn't contain shady stuff... revbones Jul 2016 #17
Would we? TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #23
So you're saying the emails were doctored now? revbones Jul 2016 #24
Except for the fact that the contents have been confirmed to be genuine. Exilednight Jul 2016 #25
That's odd TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #30
No one apologizes for something they didn't do. Exilednight Jul 2016 #32
So the contents of one of the DNC officials has been confirmed as true. TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #34
You are aware... ksoze Jul 2016 #7
Yes, the system can be hacked. TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #12
There are laws against hacking emails, but good luck applying US law in Russia. Exilednight Jul 2016 #26
Wouldn't work. Someone will find a way to get their hands on an e-mail. bigwillq Jul 2016 #8
I have a better solution! Stop writing emails that could be used against you. Avalux Jul 2016 #9
I think it's better to not do/say those things revbones Jul 2016 #18
Yes, of course. Avalux Jul 2016 #20
Regardless of one's take on the emails, what it does point out is that supposed experts both in the still_one Jul 2016 #11
Better solution: Don't do stupid shit!!! Scuba Jul 2016 #13
what about posting online? is that banned too? ;) unblock Jul 2016 #14
While there is an expectation of anonymity choosing a username TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #16
The solution is not to do anything embarrassing. Before there was email, there merrily Jul 2016 #15
^^ THIS ^^ nt revbones Jul 2016 #19
The solution is to use PGP/GPG encryption. But it's horrible optics for public officials. RAFisher Jul 2016 #21
Considering that political parties are not a branch of government TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #33
I have a solution as well, it's easy and doesn't cost a thing. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #22
You can't even trust a meeting for the shady stuff Motley13 Jul 2016 #27
Or how about mailing old fashioned letters? Initech Jul 2016 #28
Well they are less likely to be intercepted that way, TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #31
Yes when you are going to conspire to violate regulations Warren Stupidity Jul 2016 #29
old news Karen_J Jul 2016 #35

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. No because someone can hack your phone. So texting is out.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:41 AM
Jul 2016

I say we shut down the internets all together.

TexasTowelie

(112,133 posts)
5. Only to family and friends.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jul 2016

If it is business related then write a letter so that that the receiver can choose when and decide whether to write or call back with a response. The idea about emails is that people expect an immediate response and in most instances an immediate response is not necessary--if it is that important then make the phone call instead.

TexasTowelie

(112,133 posts)
10. Look at it this way--
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jul 2016

the shady stuff may include hacking, faking or doctoring emails. So which comes first--the chicken or the egg?

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
17. Well, if the emails didn't contain shady stuff...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jul 2016

and they didn't do shady stuff at all to be caught, then we wouldn't be having this conversation would we?

TexasTowelie

(112,133 posts)
23. Would we?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jul 2016

Anybody with the intelligence to hack an email system is also intelligent enough to doctor the contents to support their chosen narrative.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
24. So you're saying the emails were doctored now?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jul 2016

And that DWS just stepped down for no reason, and the other staffer apologized for nothing? Wow.

TexasTowelie

(112,133 posts)
30. That's odd
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jul 2016

because I've read on DU that the contents of some of the emails were doctored. Therefore, I'd like to know your source so I can review it. TIA.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
32. No one apologizes for something they didn't do.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jul 2016
Top DNC Official Apologizes for 'Insensitive' Email After Leak

The chief financial officer of the Democratic National Committee on Saturday apologized for the "insensitive" contents of an email leaked by the website WikiLeaks which appears to refer to Bernie Sanders.

-snip-

The email says "ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist."

In a Facebook post Saturday, Marshall said emails were written in the heat of the moment.

"I deeply regret that my insensitive, emotional emails would cause embarrassment to the DNC, the chairwoman, and all of the staffers who worked hard to make the primary a fair and open process," Marshall said. "The comments expressed do not reflect my beliefs nor do they reflect the beliefs of the DNC and its employees. I apologize to those I offended."


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/top-dnc-official-apologizes-insensitive-email-after-leak-n615606

TexasTowelie

(112,133 posts)
34. So the contents of one of the DNC officials has been confirmed as true.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jul 2016

There is no confirmation on the rest of them thus far so we can't say whether the contents of those emails are accurate. Thanks for the link.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
7. You are aware...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jul 2016

That most phones are IP-based, meaning they use the internet and are transported over the same infrastructure emails are. The same internet that is being hacked. Everything is hackable today, so might as well get used to it and watch what ones says and writes.

TexasTowelie

(112,133 posts)
12. Yes, the system can be hacked.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jul 2016

However, there are already laws about recording telephone conversations and relatively non-searchable. Emails are forever.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
9. I have a better solution! Stop writing emails that could be used against you.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jul 2016

It's really simple, but it requires integrity, which is something that appears to be lacking among some at the DNC.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
18. I think it's better to not do/say those things
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:10 PM
Jul 2016

which has more integrity than just not writing them in emails...

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
20. Yes, of course.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jul 2016

You know as well as I do that what you're saying is a really high bar for politicians.

still_one

(92,167 posts)
11. Regardless of one's take on the emails, what it does point out is that supposed experts both in the
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jul 2016

government, and other enterprises, are not doing a very good job of securing their sites.

TexasTowelie

(112,133 posts)
16. While there is an expectation of anonymity choosing a username
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jul 2016

there is no guaranty so proceed at your own discretion.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. The solution is not to do anything embarrassing. Before there was email, there
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jul 2016

were getting caught in the act, leaks, phone taps, minutes missing from audio tapes, etc.

Besides, the goal for those in positions of trust or seeking positions of trust should not be evading detection, but behaving ethically.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
21. The solution is to use PGP/GPG encryption. But it's horrible optics for public officials.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jul 2016

It's the antithesis of transparency. However e-mails are not very secure to begin with. With public-private key cryptography, only people with that private key could decrypt the message.

TexasTowelie

(112,133 posts)
33. Considering that political parties are not a branch of government
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jul 2016

and past crimes such as Watergate, it seems perfectly reasonable to expect the communications for the candidates and the associated national committees to be encrypted. With the allegations that foreign governments may be tampering with our electoral process I think that the standards will be tightened in the future.

TexasTowelie

(112,133 posts)
31. Well they are less likely to be intercepted that way,
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jul 2016

and if they are intercepted then the recipient can obviously deny any involvement.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
29. Yes when you are going to conspire to violate regulations
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jul 2016

doing so by email is stupid. Phones are probably not a good idea either. Probably no office meetings too.

Maybe a dead drop?

Karen_J

(22 posts)
35. old news
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jul 2016

I don't know why it's so hard for so many people to learn that nothing online is totally secure and private. It's one of the first things I learned about the internet, and it hasn't changed at all.

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