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kpete

(71,900 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:34 AM Jul 2016

Russian Hackers Altered Emails Before Release to Wikileaks

The metadata in the leaked documents are perhaps most revealing: one dumped document was modified using Russian language settings, by a user named “Феликс Эдмундович,” a code name referring to the founder of the Soviet Secret Police, the Cheka, memorialised in a 15-ton iron statue in front of the old KGB headquarters during Soviet times. The original intruders made other errors: one leaked document included hyperlink error messages in Cyrillic, the result of editing the file on a computer with Russian language settings. After this mistake became public, the intruders removed the Cyrillic information from the metadata in the next dump and carefully used made-up user names from different world regions, thereby confirming they had made a mistake in the first round.

Then there is the language issue. “I hate being attributed to Russia,” the Guccifer 2.0 account told Motherboard, probably accurately. The person at the keyboard then claimed in a chat with Motherboard’s Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai that Guccifer 2.0 was from Romania, like the original Guccifer, a well-known hacker. But when asked to explain his hack in Romanian, he was unable to respond colloquially and without errors. Guccifer 2.0’s English initially was also weak, but in subsequent posts the quality improved sharply, albeit only on political subjects, not in technical matters—an indication of a team of operators at work behind the scenes.


http://www.peacock-panache.com/2016/07/russian-hackers-emails-wikileaks-23928.html
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/all-signs-point-to-russia-being-behind-the-dnc-hack
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Russian Hackers Altered Emails Before Release to Wikileaks (Original Post) kpete Jul 2016 OP
If any have been altered, all of them will be worthless. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #1
kick jpak Jul 2016 #2
Stipulating that all of this is true . . . . Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #3
?? Igel Jul 2016 #8
Headline deliberately misleading. Article refers to earlier leaked documents, Ghost Dog Jul 2016 #4
DNC liberal from boston Jul 2016 #5
The leaked documents and metadata referred to in the OP Ghost Dog Jul 2016 #7
The DNC has not denied the emails are authentic. former9thward Jul 2016 #6
As they should, even if some were altered. Igel Jul 2016 #9
Interesting to see how many of the usual suspects are absent from this thread Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #10
I feel sorry for the feds, knowing they have to brief Trump Rex Jul 2016 #11

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
1. If any have been altered, all of them will be worthless.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:36 AM
Jul 2016

he weakness of these emails is that they cannot be authenticated by anyone. The dumpers will never come forward.

Stinky The Clown

(67,677 posts)
3. Stipulating that all of this is true . . . .
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jul 2016

. . . . . and I believe it is . . . . . no one will pay attention. The damage is already done. Sorting out the facts will not be complete for months, if ever. Meanwhile, the Dems are hurt and Drumpovich is not.

Mission accomplished.

Igel

(35,197 posts)
8. ??
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jul 2016

The (D) are only hurt to the extent they allow this to exacerbate internal divisions that were already there. It's the DNC that was hacked, that really, most (I) don't care about DNC-internal wranglings. They'll look at HRC vs Trump and that's where they'll focus.

Trump is hurt to the extent the "Trump's Putin's bitch" label flies. All the other innuendo about his "not going to defend NATO allies if attacked" or "respecting Putin because of his policies" twists on actual quotes notwithstanding, if there's any actual help from Russia it's in the hacking and release of the emails (or, for believers, the emails support the claim).

5. DNC
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jul 2016

Why did the DNC apologize to Sanders Campaign if the emails were altered?? Just read that Clinton Campaign fears more leaks are coming.
 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
7. The leaked documents and metadata referred to in the OP
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jul 2016

have nothing to do with the emails. The leaked documents and metadata referred to in the OP are the DNC Trump Research documents leaked in June.

See: http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/06/guccifer-leak-of-dnc-trump-research-has-a-russians-fingerprints-on-it/ from June 16th 2016.

And: https://www.wired.com/2016/06/chaotic-whodunnit-follows-dncs-trump-research-hack/ from June 15th 2016

Igel

(35,197 posts)
9. As they should, even if some were altered.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jul 2016

It gets really petty to say: "Okay, 10,000 emails. But #923 had the following 3 words changed, and in #5982 the word 'not' was deleted. In #9882 they added this sentence. So we apologize for the others, but we are going to exclude those three."

Not saying any were. Just saying that unless the alterations were really massive, well, just "meh."

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. I feel sorry for the feds, knowing they have to brief Trump
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jul 2016

and also knowing he will go tell Putin. Maybe they will keep him at the kiddie table.

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