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roamer65

(36,744 posts)
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:10 AM Jul 2016

The end is nigh for Saudi Arabian oil production...all oil production for that matter.

http://www.newsweek.com/solar-cell-breakthrough-fuel-co2-sunlight-485359

Researchers have developed an "artificial leaf" that can extract CO2 from the atmosphere and with sunlight create hydrocarbon fuel from it.

They are now filing for a patent on the process.
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The end is nigh for Saudi Arabian oil production...all oil production for that matter. (Original Post) roamer65 Jul 2016 OP
ifthis miracle fuel has to be burned it will put the waste back into the atmosphere msongs Jul 2016 #1
Yes, but if it actually is pulling CO2 out of the atmosphere, that's potentially huge. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #2
And we just pull it right back out of the atmosphere. roamer65 Jul 2016 #4
Zero carbon cycle. No increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #9
The cited efficiency factor of 10% means that it will not be competitive Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #3
The process will require water, CO2 and sunlight. roamer65 Jul 2016 #5
Guess all those tanks will be full of bacteria Warpy Jul 2016 #6
Yeah sure rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #7
Why do we have to BURN anything? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #8
Many applications can't use batteries. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #10

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
4. And we just pull it right back out of the atmosphere.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:31 AM
Jul 2016

As burning of fossil hydrocarbons grinds to a halt, so too will the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. The output of the process will be oxygen and hydrocarbon fuel.

It even represents possibilities for the terraforming of Mars.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
3. The cited efficiency factor of 10% means that it will not be competitive
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jul 2016

In other words, it will still be cheaper to pump it out of the ground. Saudis can pump for $20-$25. Some of the fracking wells in the US are close to that.

When and if such a process becomes more efficient, the Saudis have a lot of sun and land that's good for nothing else. They would probably be close to or the most efficient such producer - as long as the process doesn't require a lot of water.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
5. The process will require water, CO2 and sunlight.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jul 2016

The output would be oxygen and hydrocarbon fuel.

I would expect efficiency of the process to improve as they perfect it.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
6. Guess all those tanks will be full of bacteria
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:48 AM
Jul 2016

creating new oil.

They could also clean up that massive gyrus of plastic in the Pacific Ocean, feed it to the bacteria or use TDP to turn it back into oil.

It might be $300/barrel using these things, but that will make us a little more careful about what we waste it on.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
7. Yeah sure
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:59 AM
Jul 2016

people have been saying the end of fossil fuel is near for decades now.

A brand new energy technology is at least a decade away from any practical implementation at scale.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,925 posts)
10. Many applications can't use batteries.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:29 AM
Jul 2016

For example communities in northern Alaska and Canada, during the long Arctic winter. No chance of solar recharging batteries or hydroelectric power. But solar oil can be shipped up to run generators and snowmobiles, etc.

High power operations like mining trucks can't run off batteries because they discharge so rapidly under heavy load.

Ocean freight shipping.

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