Is anyone else tired of hearing people on Facebook constantly complaining about they can't make up

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their minds about voting for Hillary or not?

They are just in such agony over their precious perfect snowflake vote, and how it would be tainted by a vote for Hillary.

No amount of logic seems to sway them.

I am lucky enough to know several people like this, or see them in other comment threads.

Arrggh!

[Fresh_Start]

1. I'm trying to tell people, stop voting your conscience...start voting your brain

two choices:
Trump presidency
Clinton presidency

was that so hard?

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2. I like the voting with your brain line...

Certainly other logic doesn't seem to do much.

[Fresh_Start]

3. its a calculation

who is most likely to do the most good v least likely to do the most good.
who is most likely to do the most harm v least likely to do the most harm

[Adrahil]

4. Yeah....

I've been using the argument that if you can't choose between Trump and Hillary, then you need to seriously re-evaluate your world view.

[Fresh_Start]

5. at the democratic convention

Clinton had 100's of people vouching for her
Clinton has help millions of women and children

Trump's children have a hard time saying good things about him

[Adrahil]

6. "analyst" (read: propagandist) Hugh Hewitt...

even admitted that Trump has a hard time being empathetic. But of course, says Hewitt, he can LEARN to be empathetic. No Hugh, he can't. Trump doesn't care about anyone else and he's not ever gonna. Hillary DOES care about other people.

[Fresh_Start]

7. if you haven't learned empathy by the age of 70

I'm not hopeful you can learn it afterwards

now is it possible he can FAKE empathy...
probably for a few seconds at a time

[Adrahil]

8. EXACTLY! Trump is a con man. Everything is faked. NT

[relayerbob]

22. Want to bet

that before the election Ivana and Ivanka come out in favor of Clinton?

[smirkymonkey]

24. Thank YOU!

It really is that simple.

[SticksnStones]

9. I guess if Trump wins

Those folks will be the first ones with bumper stickers reading:

Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Jill Stein

and the irony will be lost upon them.

[etherealtruth]

10. In my experience, the one's that are truly undecided are the folk that consistently vote republiican

... they were never going to vote for a democrat, anyway.

I realize others have different experiences, with this ... but that is mine.

[oberliner]

27. The Jill Stein voters are not Republican

They are coming at it from an entirely different perspective.

[Stuart G]

11. Why?..I think I know..These people were really against Hillary all along

The media has been filling us with hate for her for years...Now, they have to change their minds because Donald the "sicko" really is incredibly worse than any view of Hillary...

My guess is all these "unsure thinkers" will in the great majority, (HUGE) come around to Hillary because Trump is totally unacceptable. The "unsure thinkers" have been brainwashed and they must wash their brains so they can vote for Hillary, but in the end, most will....give them time...and Donald the "sicko" will ultimately convince most if not all of wavering Bernie supporters to do the same. For the reasons expressed in the above posts.


see post number one above..

[Sherman A1]

12. No

I do find the lectures of those who think it is their role to make up another individual's mind for them a bit tedious.

[JI7]

13. They want attention. ask them about their other votes

Who they voted for congress , governor , state and local officials.

I bet they didn't vote in many of those elections.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

14. Usually

I get reams of arguments about how corrupt and evil BOTH candidates are and some have even latched on to right-wing conspiracy theories about the Clintons from the 1990's that are so far out that they *should* be laughed at, not embraced, especially by people whom I KNOW have a working brain. I just.don't.get.it.

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16. Yeah-- that too. Fucking drives me NUTS!

[RockaFowler]

44. The ones who say she is a criminal get me every time

They can't even explain what she did that was criminal. Benghazi is all they think they have. She did nothing illegal there. Heck to see Patricia Smith blame Hillary for her son's death was really strange, too. They never seem to blame the guys who actually killed her son or the 3 other men who were killed.

But hey when you bring up Trump's actual criminal activities - not paying his bills, being sued, etc - they have nothing.

This guy is really dangerous. But their hatred for Hillary is eclipsing their reasonable thought at the moment.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

46. I know, right?

She has never even been indicted, just accused of a lot of stuff by political enemies that, upon further examination, has no merit whatsoever. Every single "scandal" ginned up by the right-wing has turned up snake eyes. Even upon further examination and despite the FBI investigation and Comey's harsh rhetoric, the brouhaha over her private e-mail server didn't really amount to much more than, at worst, a bad idea and not quite in line with "best practice".
She (and Susan Rice- who she lost her chance for promotion to SOS because of it) had nothing more to do with the deaths of the ambassadors in Benghazi than Colin Powell and/or Condi Rice did with the deaths of all of the diplomats that happened on their watch and the whole Benghazi situation was (pardon the pun) "trumped up" beyond all semblance of reason. The ONLY thing that Republicans seem to have on the Obama Administration regarding Benghazi is that there was some initial, albeit typical, confusion about the motive(s) for the attack, which, of course, even if they knew for sure what the motive(s) were, wouldn't have changed anything. Improved security funding BY CONGRESS might have helped some but then again, maybe not. The real "scandal" for me about Benghazi is that the deaths of four diplomats was investigated more times than the 3000 deaths that occurred on 9/11/01 and the 60 or so deaths that occurred at various diplomatic posts during the Bush II (mis-)administration and that Hillary was more widely attacked and demonized for Benghazi than George W. Bush and his subordinates ever were for 9/11/01.

[pansypoo53219]

15. georgee made incompetant ACCEPTABLE.

[TipTok]

17. Usually something along the lines of...

... Kick to the face of kick to the crotch.

[cherokeeprogressive]

18. Politics on Facebook? You're doing it wrong.

[Ex Lurker]

47. This. Nothing good came come of it. They won't convince you and you won't convince them

Stick to cat pictures.

[Kathy M]

19. Yes ..... I know a couple who are lifelong republicans .

No matter what they will not vote for Hillary . Last I saw the wife shared something that had to do with Johnson . What they will do in Nov I do not know , it will not be for a democrat though ..........

Last thing I shared on facebook was Micheal Bloomberg speech from the DNC , not sure if I will share anymore they will have to make up their own minds

[Arazi]

40. Yes, I too know folks who just hate Clinton and will never vote for her

Her unfavorables are really bad. There's a lot of work to do to reach those who can be persuaded but most people already know her and have an opinion

[Amaril]

20. They're attention whores

Just like the people who post rants directed to some unknown person ('cause they never name the person or even state what specifically was done by the person to set them off) so all their friends will rally around & tell them how fierce / awesome / etc. they are.

Block them -- or at least dump them from your feed -- and move on.

[Skittles]

21. I find them to be sanctimonious ASSHOLES

who are perfectly wiling to hold a woman more accountable than ALL PREVIOUS POLITICIANS COMBINED

FUCK THEM ALL, including some WELL-KNOWN DUers

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23. seriously-- it's like they blame Hillary for every evil of the Dem party

It's so over the top, it's actually turned me into a Hillary fan.

[smirkymonkey]

25. I agree - I am more supportive of her because of

the ridiculous demonizing that has been going on. I'm pretty sure if she was a man it would be a quite different story.

[steve2470]

42. SCHEDULE SKITTLES FOR ....oh wait, I agree with you

Trump makes Secretary Clinton look like the Dalai Lama. End of story.

[lamp_shade]

26. I personally know at least two proclaimed "undecideds" who aren't even registered to vote.

They're family members. It was easy to check.

[oberliner]

28. Many have been battling Hillary in the primary for many months

I think it might take some time to get them to come around. But, hopefully, in the end, they will.

[Warpy]

29. First realize that vote belongs to them, not you

If they're Bernie people, just mention that a vote for Clinton is a vote for 80% of Bernie's platform and that is damned good.

If they're dumb enough to be attracted to The Orange Fart, they're likely not worth your time. For those, it's visceral, and no amount of reason will sway them either way.

The only thing we can do about stupidity is hope we can outvote it.

[oswaldactedalone]

30. Stop using Facebook

it's the simple and correct answer. Life is full of enough stupidity and dumbassery without having to have it verified with each Facebook view. Gave it up years ago, haven't missed it.

[Egnever]

33. Agreed

It's amazing to me that people worry about their privacy then post everything they do on Facebook.

You don't even need to post they track what you look at.

Worst privacy intrusion on the planet and millions can't wait to get on it every day.

[greymattermom]

31. A lot of people just don't like her

so I ask them this question: Do you like National Parks? We really do need to pay more attention to the Republican Platform. There are a huuuuggee number of talking points in there.

[bhikkhu]

35. True, and its good to remind that likability and competence aren't the same thing

As a mechanic I work with some guys who I like, but I'd never trust them enough to assosiate my name on their work or recommend them to anyone. And I work with some guys that I don't like, but I wouldn't hesitate to have them work on my family's vehicles, or take their diagnostic advice if it were given. Its a different thing.

It is nice when it all comes in a package - I love our current first family, and they've done a great job. But if all we have on the offer is excellent competence, that's plenty for me.

[Lulu KC]

32. I block them

I don't believe they read or watch anything resembling news. They gather all their info from conflicting memes on FaceBook.

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37. yeah... my problem is I can't stand to let these things lie

I feel like I *have* to rebut it.

[louis c]

34. Here's my response

In 1933, Hitler won a multiple candidate parliamentary election in Germany with 44% of the vote.

Do you know who the guy was that finished second and what he stood for? Naturally, no one knows that answer.

My reply is, "What the fuck difference does it make who he was, every German should have voted for him. Get it?"

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36. Thanks... I assume you mean that Trump is the Hitler candidate?

I agree, just want to clarify. I know a lot of people who even say Hillary will be worse, because warmongering and email lies and now the "stolen election" by the DNC.

[CrispyQ]

38. What I'm sick of is the pooping on of HRC with every post they make,

but not one post about the great qualities of their candidate.

[TransitJohn]

39. No, but I am tired of hearing people complain about Facebook on DU eom

n/t

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48. Yeah, sorry. I had to vent. Plus I'm sure others can relate.

[steve2470]

41. I really do not like Facebook, but...

I understand if people feel forced to use it for business or for relatives, friends, etc.

Otherwise, as soon as I did my "business", I'd logoff. Good political discussion and Facebook don't mix, in my experience.

[ksoze]

43. You had me at, "..tired of hearing people on Facebook".

[geek tragedy]

45. better than them trying to persuade themselves to vote for someone else.

leave them to their own process--it's hard for people to unlearn nonsense