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pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:31 PM Aug 2016

Zika: women who are or may become pregnant have actually been told by the CDC

to avoid being in a certain area of an American city.

A district of Miami where multiple cases of locally transmitted Zika have been discovered.

Where many women already live!


And yet Congress went on vacation without funding the money needed to address this crisis. At the last minute, after the funds had been agreed upon, the Rethugs attached an amendment -- taking the money from Planned Parenthood and the ACA.



http://www.cdc.gov/zika/intheus/florida-update.html

The Florida Department of Health has identified an area in one neighborhood of Miami where Zika is being spread by mosquitoes. This guidance is for people who live in or traveled to this area any time after June 15 (based on the earliest time symptoms can start and the maximum 2-week incubation period for Zika virus).

Pregnant women and their partners
Pregnant women should not travel to this area.
Pregnant women and their partners living in or traveling to this area should follow steps to prevent mosquito bites.
Women and men who live in or traveled to this area and who have a pregnant sex partner should use condoms or other barriers to prevent infection every time they have sex or not have sex during the pregnancy.
All pregnant women in the United States should be assessed for possible Zika virus exposure during each prenatal care visit.
Pregnant women who live in or frequently travel to this area should be tested in the first and second trimester of pregnancy.
Pregnant women with possible Zika exposure and signs or symptoms of Zika should be tested for Zika.
Pregnant women who traveled to or had unprotected sex with a partner that traveled to or lives in this area should talk to their healthcare provider and should be tested for Zika.
Couples thinking about getting pregnant
Women with Zika should wait at least 8 weeks and men with Zika should wait at least 6 months after symptoms began to try to get pregnant.
Women and men who live in or frequently travel to this area should talk to their healthcare provider.
Women and men who traveled to this area should wait at least 8 weeks before trying to get pregnant.

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Zika: women who are or may become pregnant have actually been told by the CDC (Original Post) pnwmom Aug 2016 OP
The tourist trade will take a big hit and Laurian Aug 2016 #1
I know they are anti-government and all treestar Aug 2016 #2
There is no end to the time and money they will spend on trying to shut down Planned Parenthood, tanyev Aug 2016 #3
I am SOOOOO glad my niece in South FL had her baby a year ago. kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #4
Getting rid of all mosquitos is over 100 year old technology. AngryAmish Aug 2016 #5
Honestly, I'm very environmentally aware, etc. but DDT got kind of a bad rap due to Rachel Carson. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #6
No thanks. There are better ways to control mosquito population without damaging the FSogol Aug 2016 #7
Like I said, I think it got potentially a bad rap. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #8
i dunno i kinda like still having bald eagle and its cousins still around dembotoz Aug 2016 #13
"The ban on DDT may have killed 20 million children." Orrex Aug 2016 #14
Surprisingly, Gov. Scott has blamed Congress for failing to fund the fight against Zika gratuitous Aug 2016 #9
I bet he's blaming the Dems, even though they were very willing to vote for the funds. pnwmom Aug 2016 #10
I'll have to go back and check gratuitous Aug 2016 #11
The situation in Puerto Rico has been dire for more than a month - why Yo_Mama Aug 2016 #12
NPR ran a fairly damning report on this yesterday Orrex Aug 2016 #15
"Dire" is what I really believe it to be - and PR doesn't have the resources. Yo_Mama Aug 2016 #16
It's bad there. A friend went to visit family recently... Avalux Aug 2016 #17
Dire is right Orrex Aug 2016 #18

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
1. The tourist trade will take a big hit and
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:43 PM
Aug 2016

Marco Rubio and Rick Scott can suffer the blowback.

Unfortunately, those working in the tourist industry will also suffer.

R's have no business governing. They wouldn't recognize the "public good" if it bit them in the ass.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. I know they are anti-government and all
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:45 PM
Aug 2016

but contagious diseases? That's one area they should let government be involved.

tanyev

(42,522 posts)
3. There is no end to the time and money they will spend on trying to shut down Planned Parenthood,
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:48 PM
Aug 2016

but a genuine threat to the health of pregnant women and the babies they are carrying? Nothing. Effing hypocrites.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
4. I am SOOOOO glad my niece in South FL had her baby a year ago.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:16 PM
Aug 2016

And I am even more glad that they have no plans for another right now and are very aware of the Zika situation and what it means for them.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
5. Getting rid of all mosquitos is over 100 year old technology.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:31 PM
Aug 2016

We built the Panama Canal by beating it. Oil the water. All puddles drained. Pay folks $15 an hour, go into every backyard, every swamp etc and put kerosene across the top of the water. It drowns the mosquito larvae.

And start the gene drive.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
6. Honestly, I'm very environmentally aware, etc. but DDT got kind of a bad rap due to Rachel Carson.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:56 PM
Aug 2016

And we see impacts today through not just mosquitoes but also things like bedbugs.

it may be time to reexamine that particular chemical.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
13. i dunno i kinda like still having bald eagle and its cousins still around
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:36 AM
Aug 2016

better living thru chemistry sometimes isn't

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
14. "The ban on DDT may have killed 20 million children."
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:10 AM
Aug 2016

From Malaria.

I kind of like not having 20 million dead kids around, but YMMV. In any case, it's not as simple as a permanent and inviolable ban based on a 50 year old book.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Surprisingly, Gov. Scott has blamed Congress for failing to fund the fight against Zika
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:26 PM
Aug 2016

I know! It shocked me, too.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
10. I bet he's blaming the Dems, even though they were very willing to vote for the funds.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:27 PM
Aug 2016

But they weren't willing to take those funds out of the budget for Planned Parenthood and the ACA.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. I'll have to go back and check
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:44 PM
Aug 2016

But my sense was that Gov. Scott really was blaming Congress and the Republican leadership for playing political games with people's lives instead of taking action.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
12. The situation in Puerto Rico has been dire for more than a month - why
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:14 PM
Aug 2016

is it more pressing to fund when a few persons in FL are endangered when so many thousands are actively in trouble already in Puerto Rico?

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
15. NPR ran a fairly damning report on this yesterday
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:19 AM
Aug 2016

Their political reporting is generally kind of softball and overly friendly to Republicans, but this piece with Donald McNeil Jr. was rather chilling.

He flat out said that officials in Puerto Rico need to "act like grownups" and get their shit together, but he feels that they're simply (and deliberately) treading water until cooler weather hits and the mosquitoes die out normally.

Ultimately I can't speak for his overall veracity, but he paints a bleak picture of bureaucratic foot-dragging and an inability to act with decisiveness.


And you're correct--the situation in PR is much worse than in FL.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
16. "Dire" is what I really believe it to be - and PR doesn't have the resources.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:26 PM
Aug 2016

Florida does.

It seems to me that we are showing some sort of bigotry here. A few cases in Florida is a crisis; tens of thousands in Puerto Rico just don't ring any alarm bells?

The CDC has estimated that thousands of Puerto Ricans are being infected A DAY.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/health/zika-virus-puerto-rico.html?_r=0

Tests on donated blood, the most reliable barometer of the epidemic’s spread, show that almost 2 percent of the donors were infected in the last 10 days.

“That’s a stunning number and reflects an explosion of cases,” Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, the director of the C.D.C., said in an interview.

The proportion of pregnant women testing positive for the virus has risen sevenfold since January, the agency said on Friday. Officials warned that hundreds of infants could be born with microcephaly in the coming year.

Puerto Rico has a population of 3.5 - 3.6 million. If the blood donation figures are accurate for the general population, about 75,000 inhabitants have been infected in less than two weeks.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
17. It's bad there. A friend went to visit family recently...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:36 PM
Aug 2016

...her daughters didn't go because they want to have kids in the future and didn't want to risk it. Puerto Ricans are even saying that the mosquitoes hurt MORE when they bite. As if they've become bigger and more aggressive. I'm not sure what's going on there unless the virus mutates them somehow.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
18. Dire is right
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

The report seemed to suggest that local authorities in PR are resistant to CDC's direct involvement, but that's the part that I can't verify independently.

I would hope that it's not a territorial squabble between fiefdoms, but if that's not it then what is it?

Regardless, there's no excuse for failing to act, and every dime that the US thinks it's saving now will be $10,000 dollars spent later to deal with the long term consequences.

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