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Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:15 PM

I just had a mini argument about WMD's in Iraq...

and why do people think "I know a lot of people who were actually THERE and you should just take my word for it." is a compelling argument?

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Reply I just had a mini argument about WMD's in Iraq... (Original post)
renie408 Aug 2016 OP
tonyt53 Aug 2016 #1
Matrosov Aug 2016 #2
TexasProgresive Aug 2016 #3
renie408 Aug 2016 #4
linuxman Aug 2016 #5
renie408 Aug 2016 #6
linuxman Aug 2016 #9
LanternWaste Aug 2016 #8
Fresh_Start Aug 2016 #7
kairos12 Aug 2016 #10

Response to renie408 (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:17 PM

1. They've got nuttin else.

 

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:21 PM

2. Because if you keep arguing

 

Then they can come back with 'Oh, you callin me a liar?!' rather than actually having to offer any evidence. It's lazy on their part.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:25 PM

3. "some are saying" doesn't make it true.

It's trying to strengthen an argument with unsubstantiated proof. They should have to name them and invite them into the conversation to make their case. Chases are they are the cousin of someone brother-in-law in another state that knows someone who was in the same town as the person who made the claim.

So ask them who these people are and if they would be willing to convince you that they are eye witnesses to seeing WMDs in Iraq that weren't already tagged by the inspection teams. (You have to cover all bases with these people. Yeah there were chemical weapons in Iraq but they were tagged and secured until Dumya and company destroyed the country.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:31 PM

4. Exactly. How does "Because I said so" work for anybody other than a five year old child?

And it never worked that great for mine!

She says I just have to take her word for it. I said, well, since I don't actually know you, that's kinda tough. Do you have any proof at all??

No, her SECURITY CLEARANCE wouldn't allow it.

I called bullshit and she stuck her nose in the air and left the discussion.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 04:04 PM

5. WMDs (nerve agent shells, etc) were absolutely found.

 

What wasn't found was signs of ongoing production and development.

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Response to linuxman (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 04:08 PM

6. Yes, but my understanding was that these were older stockpiles

and embarrassing to the West because they were weapons we already knew were there AND we helped create them.

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Response to renie408 (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:08 PM

9. Yes, that is right.

 

We knew about them. Those aren't what we were looking for, though. That's probably what the argument OP was talking about stemmed form.

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Response to linuxman (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:00 PM

8. Sure, they found some-- rusted, corroded and degraded

The argument for the war was "an ongoing programs of WMD's and that there was a large, secret stockpile of chemical weapons. Sure, they found some-- rusted, corroded and degraded, left-overs from the Iran-Iraq war.

Hans Blix however, stated that Iraq had made demonstrable reductions, and disarmament was proceeding as quickly and efficiently as possible.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 04:48 PM

7. find a clip of bush admitting no WMD....

maybe that one where he made fun of the search

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:09 PM

10. Find a clip of Shrub making a joke about looking for WMDs around the White House.

Disgusting.

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