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Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:05 PM

What Is Cupping and Why Is it Leaving Some Olympians With Spots?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-rio-summer-olympics/what-cupping-why-it-leaving-some-olympians-spots-n625336
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Why are some Olympic athletes sporting large purple spots?

The circles appearing on the arms, legs and backs of U.S. athletes like Michael Phelps, Natalie Coughlin and Alex Naddour result from a practice called cupping.

If you haven't heard of it, that's not because the practice is new — it's actually ancient. Cupping is one of the oldest forms of Chinese medicine, dating back to the fourth century, according to Acupuncture Today, a newspaper about alternative medicine.

Standard cupping involves a glass cup and a flammable substance which heats the cup while it's on the skin. When the flame goes out, suction is created.

TODAY: What's with Michael Phelps' mysterious bruises?

In more modern cupping, called "air" cupping, a suction pump is attached to the cup, creating the vacuum-type pull on the skin, according to Acupuncture Today. Sometimes the skin is punctured before air cupping to draw out a small amount of blood. That's known as "wet cupping."

Based on photos posted by some Olympic athletes, they are practicing dry, air cupping, which causes surface capillaries to break, creating the purple bruise-like spots.

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Reply What Is Cupping and Why Is it Leaving Some Olympians With Spots? (Original post)
malaise Aug 2016 OP
mjjoe Aug 2016 #1
CurtEastPoint Aug 2016 #4
scscholar Aug 2016 #2
trixie Aug 2016 #20
msongs Aug 2016 #3
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2016 #12
ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #32
FrodosPet Aug 2016 #31
jmowreader Aug 2016 #38
spanone Aug 2016 #5
malaise Aug 2016 #16
BeyondGeography Aug 2016 #6
bluedigger Aug 2016 #7
3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #14
malaise Aug 2016 #15
Purveyor Aug 2016 #29
bettyellen Aug 2016 #46
WinkyDink Aug 2016 #8
boomer55 Aug 2016 #9
AngryAmish Aug 2016 #13
lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #18
AngryAmish Aug 2016 #21
progressoid Aug 2016 #34
cleanhippie Aug 2016 #17
LeftyMom Aug 2016 #35
MattBaggins Aug 2016 #39
Marr Aug 2016 #40
Person 2713 Aug 2016 #36
stopbush Aug 2016 #10
uppityperson Aug 2016 #11
AngryAmish Aug 2016 #19
uppityperson Aug 2016 #22
Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #55
JCMach1 Aug 2016 #23
lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #24
panader0 Aug 2016 #25
malaise Aug 2016 #26
edhopper Aug 2016 #27
Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #28
Person 2713 Aug 2016 #37
Orrex Aug 2016 #49
Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #50
Orrex Aug 2016 #52
Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #53
Orrex Aug 2016 #54
Lisa0825 Aug 2016 #30
UTUSN Aug 2016 #33
Odin2005 Aug 2016 #41
Hugin Aug 2016 #42
malaise Aug 2016 #45
Hugin Aug 2016 #47
NightWatcher Aug 2016 #43
CanSocDem Aug 2016 #44
MineralMan Aug 2016 #48
JonathanRackham Aug 2016 #51
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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:08 PM

1. Cupping

Makes me think of this:

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Response to mjjoe (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:17 PM

4. EXACTLY! "Yes, yes it is.... IN PRISON!"

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:11 PM

2. Last time I heard about it, the AMA came down hard

 

My friend lost his Facebook account over it, and he worked for a company that made Facebook games so he was fired.

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Response to scscholar (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:01 PM

20. another Facebook post

another job lost. I detest Facebook.


I remember cupping from the Godfather movies.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:16 PM

3. expect the return of leeches and bloodletting as fads nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:41 PM

12. They still use leeches for reattached fingers and limbs

They secrete an anticoagulant that increases blood flow.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:53 PM

32. We use leech therapy for certain other reconstructive surgeries as well

When there is something called venous congestion.

Not my favorite thing.

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:47 PM

31. Not to mention maggots

Medical Maggots™ (maggot therapy, maggot debridement therapy, MDT, biotherapy, biosurgery, biodebridement, larval therapy)

http://www.monarchlabs.com/mdt


Maggot therapy is the controlled, therapeutic use of live blow fly larvae ("maggots" to treat skin and soft tissue wounds.

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In maggot debridement therapy, germ-free ("disinfected" larvae of therapeutic fly species ("medical grade maggots" are used to treat and manage wounds in a procedure known as "maggot therapy." The maggots are applied to the wound for 2 or 3 days within special dressings to keep the maggots from migrating. Since medicinal maggots can not dissolve or feed on healthy tissue, their natural instinct is to crawl elsewhere as soon as the wounds are clean, or the larvae are satiated.

The scientific literature identifies three primary actions of medical grade maggots on wounds:

    They debride (clean) the wound by dissolving dead and infected tissue with their proteolytic, digestive enzymes;

    They disinfect the wound (kill bacteria) by secreting antimicrobial molecules, by ingesting and killing microbes within their gut, and by dissolving biofilm;

    They stimulate the growth of healthy tissue.


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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:43 AM

38. One of my HS classmates requires regular bloodletting

There's a rare condition that causes you to make too many corpuscles. The treatment is to get drained every few weeks.

Leeches, as others have said, are now a useful treatment - it's called "hirudotherapy" and it works great IF you have one of the conditions it responds to.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:18 PM

5. thanks, been wondering what that was....

many answered questions...

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Response to spanone (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:51 PM

16. Same here

More woo!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:22 PM

6. It's creepy, stupid and soon everyone will be doing it

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:27 PM

7. I think it works.

I know I had one of those marks on my neck once, and my performance was "awesome".

And that's a quote.

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:49 PM

14. Very funny!

Took me a moment.

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:50 PM

15. You win the thread

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahah

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:46 PM

29. Me too and it was then that my mother discovered that maybe I wasn't like the 'rest of the boys' as

 

the only way I could have gotten such a 'mark' overnight was by my best buddy that I had a sleepover with.



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Response to Purveyor (Reply #29)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:17 AM

46. You didn't comb it out!?!?

 

Ahhh good times!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:35 PM

8. It's ignorant. Promoted by Gwyneth Paltrow.

 

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:37 PM

9. ya'll are showing your lack of knowledge of the world.

 

Got cupping for the first time back in 91 from my Chinese Acupuncturist. Been around for ever.

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Response to boomer55 (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:43 PM

13. So has syphilis.

 

Don't want either.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:59 PM

18. Don't forget lice.

It never gets old.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:01 PM

21. Lice has been around forever.

 

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 10:53 PM

34. Ha!

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Response to boomer55 (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:53 PM

17. Been worthless "medicine" forever too.

Just because it's been around a long time doesn't make any more effective than placebo.

And that's a scientific fact.

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Response to boomer55 (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 11:15 PM

35. Acupuncture is also bullshit.

Not sure why the ethnicity of your acupuncturist is relevant.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #35)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:36 AM

39. Ethnicity is sadly important in these discussions

If Deepak Chopra were of Western ancestry, he would be pointed out for the idiot he actually is.

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #39)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:28 AM

40. God, that's the truth.

 

A conman *and* an idiot.

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Response to boomer55 (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:04 AM

36. I remember late 80s getting cupped before a minor surgery . When the nurses moved me to the

table and my backside was exposed they all gasped and one asked what is that??
I just sad it is nothing bad and doesn't hurt
I love the smell of moxa

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:38 PM

10. "Alternative medicine?"

Medicine either works or it doesn't. If it can't be scientifically proven to work, then at best it's the placebo effect.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:40 PM

11. It's a method of separating out layers of your body. Skin from underlying fat or fascia, muscle.

Drawing out blood is stupid, serves no purpose but the "oooooo" factor, as is the "chi" crap. Used correctly, it can be used with massage, but for accupressure, "chi" whateverness, removal of "toxins"? big eyeroll.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #11)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:59 PM

19. What, an informed opinion?

 

There is no room on DU for such things.

An ex was a massage therapist, a very good one. The pain relieving quality of therapeutic massage is huge, especially for athletes. "Working out the knots" works. The best massage of my life was a large German woman at the American Club after 36 at Black wolf Run.

Anyway, the skin rolling works. Cupping kinda does the same thing as you say. It hurts so, so good. It releases so many endorphins one feels high after. Then a quart of water and nine hours of sleep.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #19)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:03 PM

22. Thanks for adding on the skin rolling. Those actually do physical things, like some types of cupping

done properly. Doing it to make you bleed is doing harm.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:00 PM

55. Imagination is not the same as information.

If this shit actually works, you should have no trouble demonstrating its effectiveness under controlled conditions.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:14 PM

23. Rubbish pseudoscience...

I tried this JUNK (I don't use the term lightly)... all it does it make you look like you have been getting hickies from a vacuum cleaner. It's about 1000x less legit than accupuncture.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:15 PM

24. Never underestimate the placebo effect: Proven time, and time again.

We are so succeptible to suggestion. Any gimmick can improve your performance if you believe in it.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:32 PM

25. To my construction buddies, cupping is when

you hold your junk in your hand, like when you're at the stop light and
there's nothing else to do.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:36 PM

26. ROFL

That is not going on at the Olympics - to the best of my knowledge

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:38 PM

27. cupping

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:42 PM

28. If one feels like the cupping is beneficial then use it. I have never tried

It but have gotten immediate relief from acupuncture and without introducing chemicals into my body.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #28)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:08 AM

37. Many insurance companies I brlieve even MedicareB in some cases will reimburse for accupuncture

And you know how they fight paying for anything they can dispute!

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #28)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 11:41 AM

49. Were you breathing at the time?

Then you were introducing chemicals into your body.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #49)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:41 PM

50. Are you serious? Sure I was breathing and you know this is not what I was talking about.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #50)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:09 PM

52. It was as serious a reply as chemo-phobia deserves

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Response to Orrex (Reply #52)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:11 PM

53. BYE

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #53)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:45 PM

54. Well you certainly showed me.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:46 PM

30. The Placebo Effect is real. nt

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 09:57 PM

33. Why is any kind of external stimulus different from doping?

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:15 AM

41. New Age stupidity.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:23 AM

42. *sigh* Yet another of my romantic notions from youth shattered...

I always thought "cupping" was when you snuggled up with your sweetie.

:sniff: Now, I suppose someone is going to tell me "spooning" isn't what I thought it was, too.

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Response to Hugin (Reply #42)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:58 AM

45. Cupping, Spooning - isn't that

Coupling?

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Response to malaise (Reply #45)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:30 AM

47. If you insist on being clinical about it, yes.

But, spooning doesn't always lead to coupling... Except, in rabbits.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:37 AM

43. That time I got caught with a hicky I should've said it was cupping

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:40 AM

44. This thread is hilarious.

 



The most advanced medical industry in history, being criticized by the worst.



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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:40 AM

48. Pseudomedical hickeys. That's what cupping is.

If it makes you feel better, there's no harm in it, I suppose. Real life hickeys can be somewhat embarrassing, though, as I learned one time in high school.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:51 PM

51. Jock strap too tight?

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:03 PM

56. I had a pain in my side that wouldn't go away. Regulat Doctor wanted me to take pain pills.

I got acupuncture and cupping from a Chinese acupuncture doctor. After 3 sessions pain went away and I felt a lot better.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:26 PM

57. Cupping removes 100% of GMOs from the food you eat

50% of the time.

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