HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Am I going to hell?

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:08 AM

Am I going to hell?

The custodian at work has been a very vocal supporter of Trump for months now. It is an outsourced company and I am sure he is not paid much so I just keep my mouth shut. Plus politics is not really discussed at my work place as we are a big, diverse company.

Well apparently this guy has never voted before and yesterday he confirmed that I do vote and he asked me what he needed to do.

I told him to find his nearest voting location and show up on Election Day. And now I feel a little guilty. I grew up having the importance of civics instilled in me at home, in school and even church, which I no longer attend. So the going to hell question was rhetorical.

Should I correct myself next week? If I thought I could change his vote I would in a heart beat.

Have a great weekend

30 replies, 3151 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 30 replies Author Time Post
Reply Am I going to hell? (Original post)
GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 OP
Statistical Aug 2016 #1
Chemisse Aug 2016 #2
sarae Aug 2016 #3
Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #11
True Dough Aug 2016 #4
OnDoutside Aug 2016 #5
grubbs Aug 2016 #6
Siwsan Aug 2016 #7
GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #8
alphafemale Aug 2016 #10
GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #14
apcalc Aug 2016 #9
SticksnStones Aug 2016 #12
MineralMan Aug 2016 #13
Ilsa Aug 2016 #15
GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #17
athena Aug 2016 #16
underahedgerow Aug 2016 #18
TonyPDX Aug 2016 #19
GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #20
TonyPDX Aug 2016 #25
Yo_Mama Aug 2016 #21
struggle4progress Aug 2016 #22
Thor_MN Aug 2016 #23
JI7 Aug 2016 #24
PJMcK Aug 2016 #26
GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #28
HipChick Aug 2016 #27
Warpy Aug 2016 #29
treestar Aug 2016 #30

Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:10 AM

1. You aren't going to hell but it is a pretty shitty thing to do.

His vote isn't going to decide the election but being disenfranchised will leave him a bitter marginalized low information (non)voter in the future.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:13 AM

2. Everybody should vote - even Trump supporters.

My opinion is - if it's wrong for the other side to do it (such as with voter ID laws and harassment at the polls), then it's wrong for us too.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Chemisse (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:14 AM

3. Agreed.

As much as I hate the idea of another vote for Trump, I'd be livid if someone did that to our side.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Chemisse (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:46 AM

11. Agreed

I believe the OP's should correct themselves offering an apology and give the proper method of registering and voting. I would also include giving this custodian a referral to iSidewith.com or another similar type of website in order to assist the custodian in learning more about the candidate they have discussed and how they might match up in positions.

Everyone should register and vote.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:17 AM

4. This is a Trump voter

So if he figures out that you misled him he is liable to beat you with a broom stick. Watch your back!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:17 AM

5. When they go low, you go high..... 😉

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:18 AM

6. You gotta fix this this.

Mildly amusing, but evil nonetheless.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:18 AM

7. Yea, you might want to fix that

I'd just say to him, "I know you said you never voted, but I just want to make sure that you know you have to register to vote, first."

Otherwise, his reaction when he gets turned away at the polling place might be to blame you, loudly. to anyone who will listen.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:20 AM

8. 3 opinions is all it took

Was always taught if I feel guilt about the way I treated someone there is a good reason. I will see him Tuesday and fill him in. I will also engage him about his vote. I know he will be shocked I am a liberal and he seems to like me ok. Maybe I can at least get him thinking.

Thank you for confirming my feelings.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:46 AM

10. Good.

 

If you have access to computers at work you might even be able to help him register.

It takes just a few minutes and you can even let him know where his polling place will be.

Your soul will thank you for it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to alphafemale (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:03 AM

14. Thanks

I will tell he needs to register and how.

It is then on him and my conscience will be fine.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:40 AM

9. He has to register first.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:53 AM

12. You'd never see a conversation like this on Breitbart

Proud of this place today...

Well done community, well done.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:00 AM

13. No such mythical place, but,

that was the wrong approach, I think. I'd have just left him to his own devices, frankly. Generally, I give people who aren't registered to vote the official form, regardless of their political leanings. I truly believe that voting is a real responsibility we should all observe.

However, I don't always engage in encouragement for people I think will vote for Republicans. I do give them the form, knowing that most won't take the time or bother to fill it out if they're not already voters. I do somewhat more for people who indicate that they'll vote for Democrats, though, of course.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:03 AM

15. Tell him he needs to register and where,

But let him take responsibility for doing the rest. It will be empowering for him to figure out some of it on his own.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ilsa (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:15 AM

17. My plan exactly

But I will also explain to him how the republicans govern against his best interest.

While we do not generally talk politics at work, this guy has for months now. Plus he asked my help.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:03 AM

16. Maybe once he gets registered

he'll start taking his vote more seriously and look into the two candidates more closely. You never know.

These days, the Clinton campaign is focused on registering voters. Sign up to volunteer at a registration table, and you could make up for his vote many times over. Check out:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/states/
and enter your zip code to find volunteering opportunities near you.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:18 AM

18. Nah, it's fine. There's such a thing as being too stupid to vote. If dude is so lacking in, well

everything, it's not your responsibility to make sure he votes for a nutjob like trump.

It's fine, well done!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:26 AM

19. You won't go to hell (because there's no god and no such place), but

you should set the guy straight about how to cast his vote. IOW, don't be a dick.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TonyPDX (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:41 AM

20. Doing it when I see him Tuesday.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #20)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 02:48 PM

25. You won't be sorry. Good luck.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 12:38 PM

21. Next week tell him you checked and you were wrong, and give him the RIGHT info.

He will never, ever forgive or forget this if you don't - it is a bad thing to do and very counterproductive in terms of the future of the party.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 02:22 PM

22. Give him the straight story. Better yet, give him a voter registration form

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 02:26 PM

23. If your state allows same day registration, you are good.

 

Here in Minnesota, that would be adequate advice.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 02:35 PM

24. you should never do this

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:04 PM

26. From the thread, I see you've made a decision

You've made an excellent ethical decision, GulfCoast66. You can clarify that he needs to register before a specific deadline (in some states). If the conversation is polite, you'll demonstrate American democracy by example.

In the United States, there's supposed to be more that binds us than divides us. You've shown that you personally, and Democrats generally, are made of better stuff.

As an aside, you note that this gentleman hasn't voted before. I wonder what percentage of Mr. Tump's supporters are unregistered. I know several loudmouthed right-wingers that don't actually vote. On the other hand, in the Republican primaries, Mr. Trump received over 14 million votes. I guess we'll see what his real support is on November 8th.

Oh, by the way, there is no hell so you're safe! Enjoy the weekend.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to PJMcK (Reply #26)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:30 PM

28. Thanks for the response

And the hell part was strictly rhetorical.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:06 PM

27. Is Goggle broken in his part of the world?

he can look up what is required himself..

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to HipChick (Reply #27)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:36 PM

29. A custodian might have only a dumb phone and no computer.

I'd have told him he needed to go down to the courthouse to register and hope he couldn't be bothered to.

That's the best I could do.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:46 PM

30. It is his responsibility to do it

Misleading him sort of. Interesting if he would rely on your word. He might ask others ar actually find out from the board of elections. Very young voters seem to have these problems. We forget how innocent we were. I missed my first vote due to not realizing I should get an absentee ballot

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread