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Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:41 AM

Aetna drops Obamacare in all but 4 states, citing persistent losses.

Somebody at HuffPo decided to turn off the copy ability from their articles, but here's the link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aetna-obamacare_us_57b262cbe4b0c75f49d7eb27?section=us_politics

I just have two words to say about this:

Single payer, single payer, single payer, single payer, single payer, single payer, single payer.

Single

Payer

Single payer.

It is the RIGHT thing to do because it removes profit from the healthcare equation. Healthcare is a BASIC RIGHT. That means that ALL AMERICANS should be able to access healthcare. WHEN, do you think, will we rearrange at least our healthcare system around human need rather than human greed?

When???

Single payer.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:50 AM

1. It's time to do something same for once that benefits people and not greed!

 

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Response to happydaze (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:13 PM

5. I was delightfully surprised to hear my doctor say how much we need universal health care....

which was said in response to my comment on how outrageously expensive some drugs are.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:02 AM

2. They had @$30 billion in profit while losing $430M on individual policies.

 

How can they go on like that??

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Response to Wilms (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:21 PM

6. Oh, the humanity!

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:22 AM

3. Modern accounting procedures...

A small drop in profits is listed as a catastrophic loss.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:13 AM

4. "WHEN, do you think, will we rearrange at least our healthcare system around human need..."

 

The answer is never, because in 2010 a President who promised a public option not only didn't give us a public option, but he doubled down on a system he said was so terrible (employer-sponsored insurance).

I've seen plenty of excuses made on DU here for why the President didn't get a public option into the bill, but I've never seen one competent defense of why he ultimately used his political capital to not get rid of, but REINFORCE, a system that he said was broken.

Which is also what makes things like the Hobby Lobby case so ridiculous. Via the employer mandate portion of the ACA, the President doubled-down on the notion that health insurance should be controlled by your employer, but then fought tooth and nail every employer who took that to heart.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 04:16 AM

10. But he's just the greatest president. ..EVER!.

Forcing Americans to buy a flawed service from private for profit corps that is often unusable ..or be fined.....uniquely American.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 06:34 AM

11. If memory serves the employer mandate portion of the law has been delayed in implementation

by executive waiver of the enforcement. To this date that has not been rescinded.

And the GOP's quietness over non-enforcement of written law (think of their complaints over immigration for contrast) is -- telling.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:24 PM

7. Pharma is apparently the big problem driving this

The cost of medicines aren't included in the risk sharing pool, which is driving q lot of extra costs for some companies.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:49 PM

8. K&R! nt

 

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:14 PM

9. As of now, in some counties no policies may be offered on the exchange for 2017

There were spots in Arizona in which Aetna was the only participating carrier left.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 06:42 AM

12. KOS had a good article saying that Aetna ..

.. didn't really need to do this, but is playing the Feds
for leverage in its bid to buy Humana.

Also, Raw Story: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/aetna-pulled-out-of-obamacare-because-ceo-was-angry-his-big-merger-got-denied/

That actually makes sense, even though it IS pretty evil.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 06:48 AM

13. the real reason is the Feds

Won't let them merge with Humana.

This is orporate payback.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 07:22 AM

14. The Libertarian candidates want "free market" rip-off insurance.

Both Johnson and Weld were on Morning Joe promoting it this morning.

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