Just a reminder that barbaric "medical" practices on women's bodies are not the sole purview of the

[lapislzi]

Shame on Ireland, and shame on that bloated icon of misogyny, the catholic church (caps left off intentionally)

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/symphysiotomy-women-demand-justice-and-compensation-555222.html

Of COURSE women are just lining up for their c-sections, 'cause that's a GREAT method of family planning.

[DURHAM D]

1. Good god - how fucking barbaric.

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. Horrific!!

[Stargazer09]

3. OUCH!

I had pain in that region during one of my pregnancies, due to my daughter's head being in a bad position (her hand was on her cheek, with the cord wrapped around her neck and wrist).

I could not walk without pain for about three months, and there were days when I couldn't walk at all. I literally had to crawl from my bed to the bathroom, because my pelvis couldn't support my weight.

To discover that any doctor would deliberately cause such a horrific injury simply to avoid a cesarean makes me absolutely ill. I was lucky enough to recover after my daughter was born, since the cartilage was only stretched, not severed. I can only imagine the pain that the effects of that operation must cause those women on a daily basis.

[lapislzi]

5. The pain of a few women is negligible

What is important is that contraception is not being used and that "church" policy is being followed to the letter.

If you are in too much pain to endure intercourse, then there is no danger of birth control.

[Stargazer09]

13. This whole thing just disgusts me

The "church" needs to be destroyed.

Doesn't it matter to them that they wouldn't exist without women?

[lapislzi]

14. Hush now, go say a rosary

...or make me a sandwich, or something...

Stop asking teh hard questions of teh god people!

[Stargazer09]

17. People ask me if I'm catholic

(or mormon) all of the time, since I have a large family. I really have to bite my tongue to keep from saying something cruel, because I know the people asking usually belong to one of those two religions. I try not to be mean, but honestly, I did not have my children because of religion. I feel sorry for people who feel pressured or forced to have children they may not have wanted to have just because their religion mandates it.

I also have to be careful not to say that I'm just overly fertile and really enjoy sex.

[BlueToTheBone]

4. That almost made me physically ill.

I think that is 2nd to female genital mutilation in barbarity.

[Stargazer09]

15. Before cesareans

This was probably a necessary procedure in extremely rare cases, particularly breech births or in other cases when the baby was not presenting in a normal position. But cesareans have been considered to be relatively safe for many decades now, and for doctors to continue this procedure simply to preserve the uterus for more babies is absolutely wrong.

I definitely agree that this is barbaric.

[BlueToTheBone]

16. Ah, yes; the woman as only a vessel.

Another of those dehumanizing traits they pawned off on humanity...wasn't that Greek?

[Egalitarian Thug]

6. We like to forget how barbaric Ireland has been for a very long time.

Atrocities committed with work-a-day regularity for centuries, some of which only ended in the last few years, some of which continue today, and almost without exception all committed by or in the name of religion.

[lapislzi]

12. Yeah, that whole "proud to be Irish" thing...

not so much.

I'll keep Bernadette Devlin and youse can keep the rest. (And yes, I am of Irish descent)

[lunatica]

7. I didn't even know that such a thing existed

Jesus!

[lapislzi]

8. Proving that there is no length that the patriarchy will not go to

to control the bodies of women.

Nothing too repugnant, nothing too cruel, nothing too barbaric, to stop dem wimmen from doing the sex thingy for any other reason than getting a babby in the sanctity of holy matrimony.

[tsuki]

9. That's just evil. nt

[sufrommich]

10. Criminal and sadistic. nt

[Liberal_in_LA]

11. horrific

[hifiguy]

18. Good lord. Sounds like there are a bunch of docs

who should be in the Irish prison system for a couple of decades or so.

Barbarism barely describes this.

[lapislzi]

19. Chuck 'em in there right behind the bishops and priests

There is rather a long line to get into the Irish gaols. Oh, and the nuns who ran the "homes" for unwed mothers. Them, too.

Unfortunately, I cannot seem to get the Irish judicial system to agree with me.