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Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:57 PM Jun 2012

Not So Fast On President Obama's Speech

from Noam Scheiber at TNR: http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/104086/not-so-fast-obamas-speech


The verdict on Obama's Cleveland speech is in, and it's not pretty. As the Politicker blog sums it up: "President Obama’s Speech Gets A Thumbs Down From Political Press Corps." The blog elaborates:

In the speech, President Obama outlined his view that this election is a choice between “two fundamentally different views of which direction America should take.” He characterized Mitt Romney’s vision as being the same as the “policies of the last decade,” specifically deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy while he described his own “vision for America” as boiling down to five things: “Education. Energy. Innovation. Infrastructure. And a tax code focused on American job creation and balanced deficit reduction.” President Obama also stressed that the economic crisis began during the Bush administration and that it “started growing again” after he took office and has since “continued to grow.”

All of these points have already been featured in the president’s other recent speeches. Between the pre-speech hype from the campaign, the lack of new material and the overall length of the speech reporters were clearly dissatisfied with end result.


If you read (the criticisms), I think what you mainly see is reporters missing the point. Yes, the speech hit a lot of familiar themes. And, yes, it was long and convoluted. As a work of rhetoric, it's not going to win any awards. But the speech wasn't written to be anthologized in the president's collected works. It was written to reset the election as a contrast between Obama's vision of what government should do and Mitt Romney's vision.

While Obama has tried to lay out that contrast before--most aggressively during a speech at an Associated Press lunch in April--the last several weeks have featured all manner of detours, like Romney's record at Bain and in the Massachusetts state house, to say nothing of the president's musings on the private-sector economy.

The speech was an effort to revive the contrast in visions as the central theme of the campaign. If it accomplishes that--and, more importantly, if voters prefer Obama's vision to Romney's--then it will have been a success. And if not, it will have been a failure. But that has very little to do with the stylistic or headline-grabbing merits of the speech itself. There will be plenty of time for pithy formulations and new policy proposals. In the meantime, the political press corps should get over itself. These things aren't entirely about our viewing satisfaction, hard as it may be to believe.

read more: http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/104086/not-so-fast-obamas-speech


from 'The only adult in the room': http://blackwaterdog.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/when-you-let-obama-be-obama/

When you let Obama be Obama

I would have love this speech even if only for the delivery. There was a look in PBO’s eyes that I did not see for a while. But it was there today. Gladly, I don’t need to settle only fr the delivery, because this was just a good speech. Not his greatest ever, but his best in a long time. He laid down the clear difference between the visions, he was aggressive, unapologetic (finally), there were no hesitations, he was sharp and clear, yet stayed presidential – And above all, it was raining truth, facts, numbers, honesty and vision/optimism. Coming right after Romney’s doom and gloom lying piece of crap speech to 100 white men – The contrast could not be more clear. More of this please.

Oh, he kicked the media in the butt, which can explain Jonathan Alter’s sad face. Obviously we didn’t see the same speech. But Andrew Sullivan did see it: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/06/live-blogging-obamas-cleveland-speech.html

My bottom line? A home run. Simply constructed, carefully reframed, aggressive while positive: the Obamaites have been listening to critics and are responding. If this is his message, and if he is able to keep articulating it this clearly, he will win. And in my view, the experience of the last thirty years is that he should win . . .


read more: http://blackwaterdog.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/when-you-let-obama-be-obama/


full transcript of Obama’s speech on the economy in Cleveland, Ohio
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/full-transcript-of-obamas-speech-on-the-economy-in-cleveland-ohio/2012/06/14/gJQAdY10cV_print.html




U.S. President Barack Obama speaks at a campaign event at Cuyahoga Community College in Cleveland, Ohio June 14, 2012.
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Not So Fast On President Obama's Speech (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2012 OP
Follow the money. The press stands to rake in obscene profits from OffWithTheirHeads Jun 2012 #1
+1,000,000 shcrane71 Jun 2012 #3
Sorry, you paid shills, he said what needed to be said. We know you love sound bites and snarks. freshwest Jun 2012 #2
+1 bigtree Jun 2012 #4
Jonathan Alter showed us what level the media is on now. railsback Jun 2012 #5
'R-Money is an R-Dummy!' bigtree Jun 2012 #6
 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
1. Follow the money. The press stands to rake in obscene profits from
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:15 PM
Jun 2012

pimping the meme that this is a race among two equals.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. Sorry, you paid shills, he said what needed to be said. We know you love sound bites and snarks.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:25 PM
Jun 2012

Gives you more time to blow hot air paid for by the minute, and explain your plans for running a country of over 300 million people in a just way would be...

Waiting for the paid speakers to check their scripts...

Waiting for you who never did anything in life but draw a paycheck twittering about those who actually did something too complicated for you to grasp...

Waiting, waiting, I can't hear your great ideas as you forgot what you were saying to blabber about the latest hairstyle or who won what sporting event...

Waiting for that wisdom to come forth from you who never walked the talk, but feel you have authority to judge those who talk and walk and do both...

Waiting... for what?

I don't believe what you're PAID to tell us. You don't either, or it would have made you commit to being more than a news reader and repeater. Because you don't have any ideas. Bye.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
5. Jonathan Alter showed us what level the media is on now.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jun 2012

He criticized the President's speech as being totally void of 'talking points'. No catch phrases to rally around. So, no longer does substance have any place when our politicians go out and make their case before the public. Who cares about facts anymore? Who cares about policies that determine our fate? Certainly not today's media. Now, in order for Obama to make an 'acceptable' speech, he needs to bring out cheerleaders waving their pom-poms, and come up with some real witty zingers, like 'R-Money is an R-Dummy!' Its beyond ridiculous, and incredibly sad.

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