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Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:23 AM

 

Anecdotal Evedience of a Cracking Trump Base

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I have a friend, probably my best friend. A 68 year old, white male who is semi-retired and very well off. He loved Trump from the beginning of his campaign. As you can imagine, we argued a lot. He actually admitted to me he's a bigot. Anyway, I would ask him, during the 16 months of the campaign, what the fuck do you like about this guy? His answer, "he's not a politician, he tells it just like it is. He doesn't speak from a teleprompter, he speaks right from his heart. He's not politically correct. He's self-funded, so he doesn't owe anything to anybody if he gets elected. He's going to throw all the illegals out. After all, Louis, what part of 'illegal' don't you understand".

I had lunch with him on Monday. I know he would never vote for Hillary, but I asked him "what do you think of your guy now?" "Woody Johnson, from Johnson and Johnson, and the owner of the hated Jets, heads up his political funding operation. He now reads exclusively from a teleprompter and his position on immigration is Jeb Bush's position. He's just another politician, except he's unqualified. You still with him?" His answer, "No. I'll be in Florida on November 8. I was going to get an absentee ballot, but now I'm not. As it turns out, he's no different than the rest of those bastards."

I was wondering, has anyone else here experienced the same type of interaction from Trump supporters?

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Reply Anecdotal Evedience of a Cracking Trump Base (Original post)
louis c Aug 2016 OP
spinbaby Aug 2016 #1
bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #2
griloco Aug 2016 #9
enough Aug 2016 #10
Chiyo-chichi Aug 2016 #16
bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #18
Mme. Defarge Aug 2016 #26
msanthrope Aug 2016 #25
woodsprite Aug 2016 #3
Adrahil Aug 2016 #4
Martin Eden Aug 2016 #5
retrowire Aug 2016 #6
amuse bouche Aug 2016 #20
Aviation Pro Aug 2016 #7
GoneOffShore Aug 2016 #21
Thor_MN Aug 2016 #8
Patiod Aug 2016 #24
Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #11
bullimiami Aug 2016 #27
Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #12
Warpy Aug 2016 #13
reznor73 Aug 2016 #14
barbtries Aug 2016 #15
workinclasszero Aug 2016 #22
barbtries Aug 2016 #23
LS_Editor Aug 2016 #17
TlalocW Aug 2016 #19
SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #28
lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #29
Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #30
Glamrock Aug 2016 #31

Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:19 AM

1. The yard sign on the corner has come down

And I don't think it was stolen

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:25 AM

2. "Just another politician, Jeb Bush with hair, unqualified to run the country"

Thanks for the talking points. TAKE THEM TO THE WEB! TO COMMENTS SECTIONS!
TO Message Boards! TO THE INTERNETS!!!

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:09 AM

9. K&r. You want another talking point?

Try "puffery", the word Trump uses in court filings to pretend he's not swindling.
It can be used so many ways
Pufferer
Pufferizing
Puffered
"You're merely a mark (con man's target) parroting Trump puffery.
Putin, Pence, punk also alliterate

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Response to griloco (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:16 AM

10. Love it. (nt)

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:05 AM

16. "Jeb Bush with microcylinder attachments."

I guess one can technically call it hair... but much of it used to belong to someone else.

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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:11 AM

18. "Trump - fake as his hair!"

More fodder for the message boards/chatrooms/disqus etc etc etc

Don't give those GOP trolls an inch!

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:07 PM

26. Good one!

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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:03 PM

25. Something else, for sure. nt

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:29 AM

3. Glad to hear that some are coming to their senses

Id say all but one of my conservative FB friends say they still plan on voting for him.

Just pulled into a campground in Emerald Isle, NC, last night. I have never seen so many Trump signs and stickers. All on permanent sites and houses on the way on to the island. Just can't fathom so many stupid people. Until arriving here, our total count for visible Trump support was around 47. This place put it up to 88, and we haven't had a chance to drive around the beach areas yet.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:35 AM

4. RWNJ in my neighborhood had Trump...

 

Stickers all over his truck (the HOA does not permit political yard signs). But this morning, I noticed they were all gone, except for one mostly covered by black tape.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:38 AM

5. "he tells it just like it is" (referring to Trump)

Your friend is delusional, horrendously misinformed, or an idiot if he thinks (or thought) that statement is true.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:57 AM

6. i do my best to avoid trump supporters nt

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Response to retrowire (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:39 AM

20. I run into them because of my weekend gig and I have zero tolerance

Honestly, when right in front of them I have a very difficult time, not telling them they are fucking idiots

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:05 AM

7. Asshat's supporters....

...are found in clusters like cancer however they won't metastasize because the very fuckwitedness they feed off of does not affect those with a working brain.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:45 AM

21. That is fucking brilliant!

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:09 AM

8. One of my college friends who said he had not voted for a winning president for 8 years,

 

said last night he would not vote for Trump. I don't think there are many rational Republicans that will. All Trump has is the rabid, TEA party types that would die if Limbaugh told them they didn't have to breathe.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 04:31 PM

24. Most of my Republican friends are "country club" Republicans

All about lower taxes and smaller government (fewer regulations on their businesses).

I don't believe any of them will be voting this year. None will vote for Hillary, but they seem to find Trump painful.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:17 AM

11. another question is whether he is actually gaining any new voters (seems unlikely)

 

or if there really is a deep secret voter base that he's tapped into that is not measured in polls (also seems unlikely).

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:12 PM

27. I think new or rare voters he brought on are going to start getting put off.

By his in your face flopping on what they believed were his core issues.

Build the Big Beautiful Wall, Deport those illegal immigrants, Doesn't owe anyone anything ...


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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:19 AM

12. the Hillary hatred runs deep for many, such as my cousin

 

It's hard to see her and her husband and mother not voting for Trump at this point. They are die-hard supporters.

Her Facebook profile pic shows her kid wearing a Trump hat. If she changes that pic, then I'll have some idea that her mind has changed.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:25 AM

13. I live in a state that was settled by people coming north from Mexico

so if that asshole has any real fans around here, they're not going to admit it to anybody around them.

Your pal is well off and educated enough to see through some of this stuff. People who haven't had his chances are furious at the party that let them down for so long, so their support for Trump will remain strong. They know he'll be a rotten president, they're counting on it. They want this rotten system wrecked from the top down and Trump is just ignorant and clumsy enough to do it.

I think the softening of support among wealthier bigots is due in a large part to Trump's asking for campaign cash, "What? He said he was going to fund this thing with his own money! Why the hell is he asking me if he's got ten billion bucks?" That's just a guess but it's an educated one.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:26 AM

14. his base seems less enthused


Yeah - the Trumpeters I know aren't that into him as much. Some of my family that supports him just lost interest in it - I can't say what it was. I'm not sure that they'll vote - some of them just plan on sitting it out.

Isn't amazing that an "outsider" could be more corrupt than career politicians?

Frankly speaking - I think the anger and outrage people have right now is unfounded in many ways. I get anger of school debt, low paying jobs, the environment, poverty etc..

But anger at muslims, latinos and the lgbt community is just evidence of deep seated bigotry.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:03 AM

15. so...

his misogyny - okay.
his ignorance of the constitution - okay.
his childish making fun of a disable person - okay.
his calls to violence and suborning foreign espionage and assassination - okay.
his constant lying - okay.
his multiple bankruptcies - okay.
his broad brush attacks on muslims and undocumented workers - okay.
his failure to release his tax returns - okay.

his decision to use a teleprompter - FUCK HIM.

i don't get these people.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:45 AM

22. Let me help you out...

 

They are nuckin futs.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:43 PM

23. they so are.

but their sickness is infecting the entire country. it's so ugly.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:10 AM

17. My cousin now refuses to admit he voted for Trump in the primary election.

Huge denial.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:34 AM

19. Well, Ann Coulter for one

Apparently on the day they launched her new book extolling Trump in which she claims he could change his opinion on anything, and it wouldn't matter, his change on immigration mattered to her.

It's really quite nice schadenfreude.

TlalocW

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:56 PM

28. Your friend not voting at all is an extra win for Democrats

Now he won't be voting for down-ballot Rs as well.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:33 PM

29. I know some repubs who are voting 3rd party

It"s all spite, just different targets.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:34 PM

30. if he waffles on immigration, that's like the ultimate betrayal

WHERE IS OUR WALL? WHERE ARE OUR MASS DEPORTATIONS?

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:45 PM

31. Yep

One of the kids I'm working with. Twenty something. Was three of us smoking outside the hotel. I said something derogatory about Trump and he was like, "Hey now. "
I said, "Hey now my ass! That fucker ain't qualified to run a political convention. It's been proven after that shit show. Vote for who you want to man, but you're being scammed. Sarah Palin all over again. "

So he heard me talk shit about Trump for a few days. Monday came around, the clown was in the news, again.
For something sstupid, again. I started talking about it and he said, "That's it! I'm voting for Johnson! "

Alas, the Libertarian party has been getting their ass kicked this week.

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