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63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 10:42 PM Aug 2016

Here is one of the reasons Hillary called Byrd one of her mentors...

" *Joined the KKK at age 24 -- liked that it was anti-Communist. It's a membership for which Byrd has repeatedly apologized. "

Others can be found at the same FOX remembrance of Byrd:

A Look Back at Covering Sen. Robert Byrd: Facts and Remembrances

" Sen. Robert C. Byrd, D-WV died early Monday morning after a legendary career in Washington, here are some facts and remembrances from covering the 92-year old senator for years on Capitol Hill.

ACHIEVEMENTS:

*Nov. 8, 2009 -- Byrd became the longest serving member in Congress in history.

*June 12, 2006 -- Byrd became the longest serving senator in history.

*Nov. 2006 -- Byrd was elected to his 9TH FULL TERM. (So - Byrd was closing in on his 58th year in the Congress).
...
..."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/28/look-back-at-covering-sen-robert-byrd-facts-and-remembrances.html

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I bring this up because Don the Con is now using what Hillary said about Byrd as evidence of her being a "bigot." He could not be any less honest if he was a con man real estate developer.... Oh wait...

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Here is one of the reasons Hillary called Byrd one of her mentors... (Original Post) 63splitwindow Aug 2016 OP
I know Byrd gets a lot of DU love, Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #1
Did you grow up when and where he did? Judging others can be risky business. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #3
Yeah, sorry but by 24 you know the KKK's fucked up or you like them Arazi Aug 2016 #4
So do you think that Hillary calling him a mentor is evidence of her being a bigot? 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #6
I don't mind sharp_stick Aug 2016 #5
I can forgive a whole lot of stuff, Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #13
Robert Byrd: A story of change and redemption struggle4progress Aug 2016 #16
Anyone with half a brain know what Hillary meant, it was because Byrd changed his racist views, and still_one Aug 2016 #2
Yes, you are right. raging moderate Aug 2016 #8
You're right, at least that is how I view it, the ability to change still_one Aug 2016 #10
He never changed. former9thward Aug 2016 #18
In that regard you are right, but here is his voting record still_one Aug 2016 #20
Too bad Clarence Thomas got in. Thank God Thurgood Marshal did. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #21
. DURHAM D Aug 2016 #7
and Byrd apologized but Trump never apologized for calling for death of innocent black men and then JI7 Aug 2016 #15
Having served in Congress for 58 years deserves respect, he has a lot of Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #9
The only way Trump's analogy would work is if Hillary hired 24-yr-old Byrd as her campaign CEO. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #11
+1 Very well reasoned and said. Thanks. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #12
Byrd was Wrong and he apologized . Byrd joining the kkk decades ago is not an exuse for people to be JI7 Aug 2016 #14
Byrd should be a role model for doing what Trump couldn't: find empathy, repudiate his racism. LeftRant Aug 2016 #17
TRUE! burrowowl Aug 2016 #19

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. I know Byrd gets a lot of DU love,
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 10:58 PM
Aug 2016

but to me, joining the KKK, even as a 24-year old youth, and rising to the rank of Exalted Cyclops, is unforgivable. I wish Hillary had not named him as a mentor.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
3. Did you grow up when and where he did? Judging others can be risky business.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 11:04 PM
Aug 2016

The fact is she did call him a mentor so the reason(s) why IS the only important thing. One can have respect for someone who sees the error of their ways and sincerely apologizes. Don the Con IS NOT capable of same thus no respect for that sleazeball.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
5. I don't mind
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 11:06 PM
Aug 2016

being able to forgive someone who actually atoned for their past. It's better than the alternative.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. I can forgive a whole lot of stuff,
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:13 AM
Aug 2016

but I can't forgive someone joining the KKK in their mid-twenties and rising through the ranks to Exalted Cyclops. And if that makes me a bad person, I guess that's what I am.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
16. Robert Byrd: A story of change and redemption
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:32 AM
Aug 2016

By Eugene Robinson
Tuesday, June 29, 2010

... The last of the old Southern Democrats is gone ...

Byrd's trajectory -- from bitter segregationist to beloved dean of the Senate -- is actually a hopeful, quintessentially American story. He was a man of his age, and his views on race closely tracked the views of the constituents he so loyally represented. There was a time when separate-but-unequal was a mainstream position among whites in the South, and the fact that Byrd's early words and deeds are so shocking today is a testament to how far the nation has come ...

Byrd's career is also a reminder that no political party has a monopoly on wisdom or virtue ...

Robert Byrd's amazing career reminds us that times really do change. And so do people.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/28/AR2010062803119.html

still_one

(92,116 posts)
2. Anyone with half a brain know what Hillary meant, it was because Byrd changed his racist views, and
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 11:00 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:20 AM - Edit history (1)

seemed to move in a more progressive direction:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Robert_Byrd.htm

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
8. Yes, you are right.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 11:33 PM
Aug 2016

It took absolutely no courage or insight for me to refrain from joining the KKK where I grew up, in a neighborhood crowded with Jews and liberal Lutherans and Congregationalists and Catholics. Probably nobody I knew had any KKK connections. It was different in other places, both in the North and in the South. In some places, people didn't know any Black people personally but were fed dreadful lies about them while growing up. Then they had to complete their education somehow on their own. Robert C. Byrd showed the ability to learn, change, and grow. This is a rare and admirable trait.

former9thward

(31,970 posts)
18. He never changed.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 02:35 AM
Aug 2016

He used the N word twice in the media in the 2000s. He boasted that he was the only Senator to have voted against both African American appointees to the Supreme Court, Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas. It is disgusting to see him defended on DU.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
20. In that regard you are right, but here is his voting record
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:14 AM
Aug 2016
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Robert_Byrd.htm

regardless of that, his record still stand that he voted against the civil rights act, and the voting rights act, so your assessment is correct, he is a racist. Did he change his views on race? probably not

Also, couldn't you find a better source than fox news?

He also endorsed President Obama

JI7

(89,244 posts)
15. and Byrd apologized but Trump never apologized for calling for death of innocent black men and then
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:16 AM
Aug 2016

he complained they got money from settlement for being locked up for years for a crime they did not commit.

how fucked up is that ??????

too bad CNN is so fucking stupid with lazy ignorant discussions.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. Having served in Congress for 58 years deserves respect, he has a lot of
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 11:36 PM
Aug 2016

Knowledge, we can learn from those in the know.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
11. The only way Trump's analogy would work is if Hillary hired 24-yr-old Byrd as her campaign CEO.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 11:41 PM
Aug 2016

All she did was say nice things about Byrd AT HIS FUNERAL in 2010, noting he was her mentor in the Senate. The man is dead and has nothing to do with her campaign. He repudiated racism and went on to serve for decades in the Senate, the last years of which he served with Hillary and imparted his experiences and knowledge on Hillary. She was grateful, as any decent human being would be.

Trump, on the other hand, just hired as his campaign CEO a white nationalist who proudly bragged about providing a platform for the "alt right" (white nationalists) on the website he ran.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
14. Byrd was Wrong and he apologized . Byrd joining the kkk decades ago is not an exuse for people to be
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:15 AM
Aug 2016

racist today.

LeftRant

(524 posts)
17. Byrd should be a role model for doing what Trump couldn't: find empathy, repudiate his racism.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 02:18 AM
Aug 2016

If he was sincere, he was late as hell but he got it right in the end. Trump is 70 now and still a full-bore racist.

The video they're passing around of Hillary talking nice about Byrd isn't going to turn into anything. Black people know what Trump is and that won't change before election day.

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