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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37241727By Andreas Illmer
BBC News
1 September 2016
From the section Business
With South Korea's biggest shipping company filing for bankruptcy protection, the vessels, sailors and cargo of Hanjin Shipping are stuck in limbo, stranded at sea. Ports, fearing they will not get paid, refuse to let them dock or unload. That means the ships are forced to wait for Hanjin, its creditors or partners to find a solution. It's a case of unprecedented scale, with experts expecting the deadlock to last for weeks, if not months.
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Not only are ships not allowed to unload, containers waiting to be picked up are also being held back by the ports as collateral over unpaid bills. And even if the ports did allow them in, Hanjing would probably not as the vessels could expect to be immediately repossessed by the firm's creditors.
Beyond the ships and containers, there is of course the cargo within those containers - in many cases part of a tight chain of supply and delivery. By September, the global shipping industry is already into what is its busiest time of the year ahead of the Christmas season.
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That means that a lot of the goods en route to the US are geared at the busy year-end holidays and any disruption will be a major headache for the companies that have entrusted their products into the hauls of the Hanjin freighters.
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Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)A friend of mine works in a company that sells and distributes bikes for younger kids. They just secured a pretty big contract this year that was poised to double the companies size, but it has very strict delivery terms and dates. He said the owners built about 3 weeks into the plan for unexpected evens but if this causes more than 3 weeks delay it could be the end of the company.
T_i_B
(14,736 posts)There is a lot of overcapacity in the shipping industry as demand has not kept pace with the ever bigger container ships being built.
Best thing that governments can do is work together to sort out bankruptcy rules and keep tariffs and import barriers as low as possible so that shipping lines are better able to fill their vessels. The current trend for protectionism is not helping anybody.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)on the highways. Apparently Hanjin carries about 7% of American cargo from Asia. I wonder how long until a Hanjin effect turns up on Amazon as "Not available at this time." Increased shipping rates will be very soon I imagine.
Wonder about any possible political fallout. It's the kind of story that can become personal to a lot of people and businesses, including some layoffs, and there are always plenty of people eager to find fault with our government. (Yes, of course, I know. )
WSJ:
But weaker trade and overcapacity have sent ocean shipping rates plunging in recent years. A few months ago, Poskus said, prices hit historic lows globally down to as much as $600 per container from Shanghai to Los Angeles. That wouldn't even cover fuel costs for the huge ships, he said.
Poskus expects the current spike in prices to last only a month or two. With about 5 percent of ships in the global trading fleet sitting idle, there is plenty of room to take over Hanjin's capacity and carriers already are discussing the possibility of adding ships, he said. However, prices will have to rise somewhat in order to be sustainable, he said perhaps to about $1,000 per container.
T_i_B
(14,736 posts)As Hanjin are the largest Korean shipping line, and their government is trying to get the 2nd largest Korean line (Hyundai, who are not in good financial shape themselves) to take over some of their assets.
Also, is Longbeach port in the States owned by Hanjn?
Freight rates are certain to rise.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)So their second-biggest is in trouble too. I'd read a long time ago about the problems that lead to this situation but otherwise pretty much forgot about it. I just read that South Korea declined to bail out Hanjin, leaving it to be bought up by competitors. Koreans are becoming unhappy about corporate welfare there, apparently similar to what's finally happening here, so that seems like a move in an encouraging direction.
It'll work its way out, but it's the the juxtaposition of temporary shortages and serious delays with holiday shopping, of course. We have no family businesses in danger, except for parts maybe, but I'm going to warn our kids to buy the "special" Christmas presents they have planned for their kids now just in case.
T_i_B
(14,736 posts)The Total Terminals website says that until further notice the terminal will discontinue delivery of all Hanjin import containers. It also said it would no longer accept Hanjin containers for export.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)expected to have at least hundreds of ownerships and other business investments and involvements in various parts of the industry. More complications.
T_i_B
(14,736 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)article: Shipping giant Hanjin, majority owner of biggest Long Beach terminal, files for bankruptcy protection.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hanjin-bankruptcy-20160831-snap-story.html
This is a big mess for the Port of Seattle too, of course.
I passed the word to our kids, but apparently there are no "must have" presents planned for Christmas this year. Our son was already aware, but the only items that could be a problem in his technical business are very expensive and couldn't be ordered in advance of unforeseen need arising.
T_i_B
(14,736 posts)The LA Times coverage of this story is actually pretty good.
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)A full semi of wrapping paper showed up a few days after Xmas... someone lost their ass cause it went on immediate 90 percent off to get rid of it. She literally filled our minivan with the stuff
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Maddchick
(38 posts)knots. The poor and the workers of the world must either unite or suffer as they are now. No kind of trade deal will fix it or even make it worse. The problems are internal to every nation in the world that caters to the wealthy elite at the expense of the working poor and middle classes.
The sad part of this is that most people do not know or care about this looming economic situation because the media does not report on it here or anywhere else for that matter. But the impact is global and while the focus is only national.
lpbk2713
(42,738 posts)If they can't come ashore and if their company's credit is no good?