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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:00 AM Sep 2016

Chicago set a record for homicides in Aug, but Chi murder rate was beaten by Milw

It is the highest monthly total since July 1991, when the victims of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer were discovered, Milwaukee police said.

"We've had a slight increase in domestic violence homicides this year, but the biggest driver of our homicides is arguments and fights and retaliation among people with criminal records," Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn said Thursday.

"Some of our challenge is simply consistently being able to deter armed offending through the criminal justice system," he added. "The penalties are too weak."

Although Chicago has captured national headlines for having its deadliest month in nearly two decades, Milwaukee had a higher per capita rate of killings (4 per 100,000 people) in August compared with its neighbor to the south (3.3 per 100,000 people), according to Milwaukee police.


http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2016/09/01/flynn-address-deadliest-month-25-years/89732548/



Ok, nothing to notice here... it's all about arguments of people who have criminal records

so move along, move along...

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Chicago set a record for homicides in Aug, but Chi murder rate was beaten by Milw (Original Post) HereSince1628 Sep 2016 OP
Is the term "gang violence" a no-no these days?....I can barely keep up... pipoman Sep 2016 #1
Who knows? cwydro Sep 2016 #2
That was Chief Fynn's description, I suspect Sheriff Clarke's would be otherwise HereSince1628 Sep 2016 #3
The only people killing each other enmass is ethnically divided criminal gangs. pipoman Sep 2016 #4
Everyone who carries a gun for "self defense" imagines there is someone who deserves to be shot. hunter Sep 2016 #5
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
2. Who knows?
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 09:23 AM
Sep 2016

No one likes to talk about all the lives lost through that kind of violence.

DU only cares about lives lost through police misconduct.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. That was Chief Fynn's description, I suspect Sheriff Clarke's would be otherwise
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 09:25 AM
Sep 2016

Thing is, having a criminal record is very common, some would say exceedingly common in some parts of Milwaukee. A part of that seems to relate to methods of policing and prosecuting.

Around here, when you can say people with criminal records, many people would assume that you are not talking about non-Hispanic whites. Also around here many people will assume you mean gangs. I expect there is a correlation but I am not sure how strong it is.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
4. The only people killing each other enmass is ethnically divided criminal gangs.
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 09:40 AM
Sep 2016

We can never find solutions until we acknowledge the problems honestly.

hunter

(38,264 posts)
5. Everyone who carries a gun for "self defense" imagines there is someone who deserves to be shot.
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 10:55 AM
Sep 2016

Gangsters, cops, even people who end up committing suicide... the whole lot of them.

There's not much difference between a trigger happy racist cop and a fourteen year old gangster with a gun, or the guy who shoots the man in the mirror.

I can't think of anyone I'd care to shoot, and I've never been in a situation where me holding a gun would have improved the outcome. Therefore I see no reason to carry gun.

Anybody who thinks a gun might make them some kind of hero someday, in Hollywood slow motion, probably shouldn't have a gun.

I've been in rough situations, more than most people I believe, and I live in a city that's more dangerous than Chicago, a place where I'm often painting over gang graffiti on my back wall, or when I walk for exercise passing places where kids have been shot by gang rivals or people who mistook them for gang rivals, in a city where the penalty for "open carry" is frequently instant death by cop or gangster.

In my experience, once the guns come out everything is FUBAR.

The problem is guns and U.S. gun culture.

Smoking and drunk driving are similar problems and society is finding ways of dealing with those problems.

As a kid I remember people smoking in grocery stores. Sometimes the shopping carts had ashtrays. People dropped their butts on the floor anyways, extinguishing them by smashing them flat under their shoes.

People don't smoke in grocery stores anymore, at least not where I live.

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