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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChicago set a record for homicides in Aug, but Chi murder rate was beaten by Milw
"We've had a slight increase in domestic violence homicides this year, but the biggest driver of our homicides is arguments and fights and retaliation among people with criminal records," Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn said Thursday.
"Some of our challenge is simply consistently being able to deter armed offending through the criminal justice system," he added. "The penalties are too weak."
Although Chicago has captured national headlines for having its deadliest month in nearly two decades, Milwaukee had a higher per capita rate of killings (4 per 100,000 people) in August compared with its neighbor to the south (3.3 per 100,000 people), according to Milwaukee police.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2016/09/01/flynn-address-deadliest-month-25-years/89732548/
Ok, nothing to notice here... it's all about arguments of people who have criminal records
so move along, move along...
pipoman
(16,038 posts)No one likes to talk about all the lives lost through that kind of violence.
DU only cares about lives lost through police misconduct.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Thing is, having a criminal record is very common, some would say exceedingly common in some parts of Milwaukee. A part of that seems to relate to methods of policing and prosecuting.
Around here, when you can say people with criminal records, many people would assume that you are not talking about non-Hispanic whites. Also around here many people will assume you mean gangs. I expect there is a correlation but I am not sure how strong it is.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)We can never find solutions until we acknowledge the problems honestly.
hunter
(38,264 posts)Gangsters, cops, even people who end up committing suicide... the whole lot of them.
There's not much difference between a trigger happy racist cop and a fourteen year old gangster with a gun, or the guy who shoots the man in the mirror.
I can't think of anyone I'd care to shoot, and I've never been in a situation where me holding a gun would have improved the outcome. Therefore I see no reason to carry gun.
Anybody who thinks a gun might make them some kind of hero someday, in Hollywood slow motion, probably shouldn't have a gun.
I've been in rough situations, more than most people I believe, and I live in a city that's more dangerous than Chicago, a place where I'm often painting over gang graffiti on my back wall, or when I walk for exercise passing places where kids have been shot by gang rivals or people who mistook them for gang rivals, in a city where the penalty for "open carry" is frequently instant death by cop or gangster.
In my experience, once the guns come out everything is FUBAR.
The problem is guns and U.S. gun culture.
Smoking and drunk driving are similar problems and society is finding ways of dealing with those problems.
As a kid I remember people smoking in grocery stores. Sometimes the shopping carts had ashtrays. People dropped their butts on the floor anyways, extinguishing them by smashing them flat under their shoes.
People don't smoke in grocery stores anymore, at least not where I live.