Is it just me that gets frustrated when TV pundits do not pronounce the "T" in ClinTon

[Demonaut]

I hate when I hear "Clin-en" from journalists and the general public

It's lazy

[Warpy]

1. Shitty diction always bugs the hell out of me

especially when method actors talk like they've got mouthfuls of egg salad as their way of appealing "real."

The lead in "Interstellar" was so bad I had to use subtitles.

My hearing tests out better than it's supposed to be, that's not the problem. The problem is diction.

[mantis49]

43. I could never bear to watch anything with Sylvester Stallone in it because of this.

N/T

[MineralMan]

2. That's inevitable, really.

While it's easy to follow an "n" with a "t," lazy speakers will simply do a light glottal stop instead in a word that follows the "t" with another "n" sound. That's especially true when the following syllable is unstressed. It is lazy, but it's a natural thing.

I'm afraid you're going to keep hearing that.

[FarPoint]

3. I really irritates me when....

They say, " Democrat Party" when the phrase requires the term " Democratic Party".

[GreenEyedLefty]

4. At least they're calling her by her last name

Instead of calling her "Hillary."

They don't call Donald Trump "Donald." It's always Trump or Mr. Trump.

[JayhawkSD]

8. They do call him "Donald" quite often, and frequently "The Donald." nt

[TipTok]

28. What's the complaint?

That's her self chosen brand?

Don't see many Clinton 2016 stickers. It's always Hillary.

Same goes for the big H logo.

[ananda]

5. I don't pronounce the t either.

I have a habit of using the glottal stop.
But I don't say Clin-en either.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. I like it, actually.

That neocon dirtbag G. Gordon Liddy (is he still alive?) used to pronounce it Clin-TON and it drove me nuts.

[frogmarch]

7. T-glottalization (glottal stop)

I often use glottal stops after "n" and "t" as in "Hillary Clin'n climbed the moun'n to save the ki'n (meow)." I thought glottal stops were OK.

[mothra1orbit]

27. Born in Hin'n, live near Tren'n

Read somewhere, long ago, that meticulous pronunciation of that "T" is characteristic of non-native English (American English, anyway) speakers.

And here is my new favorite sentence in the world (from Wikipedia):

In many languages, the unstressed intervocalic allophone of the glottal stop is a creaky-voiced glottal approximant.

[Iggo]

29. ...and sometimes I go to the mount'ns.

It's just the way some people talk.

Me included.

[Hekate]

37. My mother, a native speaker, was convinced she knew the exact pronunciation...

...of every American English word; was born and raised in Colorado before moving to California after WW II to get married and raise a bunch of kids who pronounced the H in whale and the T in Clinton and the ING in any word ending in ing. She had sharp things to say about people who "talked like they had a mouthful of mush."

One of my grad school profs at U of Hawai'i came from New York. He called me out on my WH once, said it made me sound like a schoolmarm. "But I come from 5 generations of schoolmarms!" I said.

The televised Clin'on glottal stop is a new development -- I do not remember it from Bill Clinton's presidency.

By the way, this sentence is now my new favorite as well: In many languages, the unstressed intervocalic allophone of the glottal stop is a creaky-voiced glottal approximant.

[mothra1orbit]

42. My mother-in-law,

a first-generation American and an English teacher, carefully pronounced every letter in every word, too, and according to what she believed was phonetic perfection. As a dutiful daughter-in-law, I kept my mouth shut when she talked about the for-sigh-thia in the front yard but since we lived near Tren'en I couldn't stifle a wince at every (frequent) TrenTon.

[JayhawkSD]

9. If that's the only compliant you have about punditry...

You live in a very rosy world indeed. I would give a major body part to be you.

(Well, maybe not, and DU rules prohibit me from saying why not.)

[Demonaut]

20. I'm rarely compliant....it's just a complaint

[OKNancy]

10. yes, I've noticed that. bugs the heck out of me

[Still Blue in PDX]

11. I got in trouble once and lost a friend because I learned to talk sans glottal stops.

I remembered the incident because it made no sense to me at the time, and I still feel a little hurt at the injustice whenever I see a classmate's name on a mutual friend's Facebook timeline.

I was 7 years old and at my friend Vicky's house. Vicky's grandma said something, I replied, "Yeah, wouldn't it?" and Vicky snickered. Her grandma said, "That's not very nice," and from that day onward I was never invited to Vicky's house. I'm not sure how old I was when I remembered that conversation and realized that Grandma thought I was mocking her and saying "wooden tit." For someone who began reading very early I had a ridiculously meager knowledge of naughty words.

[Cirque du So-What]

12. I've attempted to improve my diction over the years

and pronouncing the N and T distinctly is part of that effort.

[KewlKat]

13. funny you posted this....that was exactly my thought this morning while watching a segment

on CNN

[unc70]

14. Nothing wrong with that pronunciation

It really just depends on which of many regional accents one is using. Many parts of northern England, Scotland, and Iteland would say it that way.

[Brother Buzz]

15. I do not disagree, but....

can you explain why some regions put am 'R' in Washington? In my home state of California, I often hear wash pronounced worsh, and accept it, but I cringe when I hear Worshington.

[Hekate]

39. That's a regionalism for sure. I had an aunt and uncle who said "worshcloth" and I could never....

...figure out why. I think she started out in the country in Nebraska, but he was my father's brother (both Coloradans) and he might have picked it up from her, because Dad never said worsh.

Does anybody remember "The Story of English" series by MacNeil-Lehrer that ran on PBS in the 1980s? It was fantastic. I've tried to get a DVD online, but there only seem to be ancient and very expensive VCRs around. When I finally got one from the library, the technology on display was positively antique, but the cultural information was as fresh as ever.

Here's a link, mostly for me to check on later. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/story-of-english/

[Angel Martin]

16. posted w/o comment

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[Glassunion]

17. My personal hero the person who put the "b" in subtle.

Well played. Well played indeed.

[Iggo]

30. Mine too now!

[pinboy3niner]

38. My personal hero is Michele Bachmann

For fearlessly pronouncing chutzpah as shoots-pa.

[rock]

18. Yep

It's just you.

[Demonaut]

21. I expected that...lol

[Tree-Hugger]

19. Doesn't bother me

It's the way I pronounce it. Common in Philly area (just like ki'en, bu'on, mi'en, etc...).

[Yo_Mama]

22. It's a regional accent thing, not an insult.

If this is all that you have to worry about, read more news. Seriously, it's not a problem.

[Enrique]

23. are you watching a Cockney channel?

[NuclearDem]

25. There, I pronounced it ClinTON.

I 'ope you're 'appy.

[DawgHouse]

47. Ha!

[Codeine]

24. Meh, glottal stops are a common regionalism.

I've got a friend from Detroit who does it constantly; we were working on his alternator and I couldn't stop laughing because he kept saying "alt-nator." It's not lazy, it's just a regional accent.

[Rex]

26. Yes! They've been doing that for years!

WTF is wrong with them?

[Iggo]

31. You can have my glottal stops when you pry them from my cold dead...um...glottis.

[TCJ70]

32. Impordant always grates on me...that's a T not a D please...n/t

[Iggo]

33. Ev'ryone knows it's impor'nt.

[Hekate]

36. urgh

[vanlassie]

34. I have been under the impression that

the Clin-en type T drop stemmed from rap talking. It makes me grind my teeth. It sounds uneducated, which is why I find it disturbing when younger news reporter type people use it.

[Hekate]

35. They do it as a glottal stop

I know, I know. At least they're not saying Clinnen, right?

[Rhythm]

40. It's a regionalism, and doesn't bug me in the least...

But then, i grew up in the South, and glottal stops and other pronunciation quirks are just a fact of life.

[Raine]

41. I hadn't noticed...

[superpatriotman]

44. Wholly agree with OP

Make excuses about regionalism, etc. but it is nothing but lazy diction.

[Rhythm]

46. Linguistic scholars recognize the legitimacy of regional differences of pronunciation

...as not being 'lazy diction', but of being something that, like language itself, has evolved along separate paths, much like how different regions of the country refer to assorted common items like soft drinks (soda/pop/coke), sandwiches on an oblong bun (sub/hoagie/grinder), or that thing with wheels that you put your groceries in while shopping (cart/buggy).

[bigwillq]

45. Doesn't bother me one bit (nt)