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WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:18 PM Jun 2012

Please tell me I'm wrong.

Obama will get just say no from Republicans forever. If Romney wins, Dems will cave like they always do, so, it is better to have Romney, and a somewhat functional Government instead of Stasis.

To Battle this, Obama must tell how he will get anything done if they continue their recalcitrance. Going over Congress's head on Immigration is a positive message against this thought.

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Please tell me I'm wrong. (Original Post) WingDinger Jun 2012 OP
Of course, Dems can gain seats in Congress. If we all show up and vote! nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #1
That is the message the Rethugs send their base. WingDinger Jun 2012 #2
And? We've been there, for two years, and he was so busy catering to people that hate him Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #27
You are wrong. n/t roody Jun 2012 #3
Um, no. CJCRANE Jun 2012 #4
You're wrong. MineralMan Jun 2012 #5
Plan is, to work my butt off. But are others thinking this? WingDinger Jun 2012 #6
Only people who believe RW talking points CJCRANE Jun 2012 #9
Well, all the folks I know through the Minnesota DFL are MineralMan Jun 2012 #15
That is one problem. Calif, is Dem, so, it is of limited value to GOTV. Unless you call other states WingDinger Jun 2012 #21
I'm telling you you are wrong. Herlong Jun 2012 #7
Yup, also though, I worry about the capital strike. If multinationals dig in further. WingDinger Jun 2012 #8
So you would capitulate to the people CJCRANE Jun 2012 #10
No, but to not seem ineffectual, Obama must tell how he will override them all. WingDinger Jun 2012 #11
I said voters Herlong Jun 2012 #12
No, the people put pressure on the recalcitrant as they are outraged that the UNAMERICANS are diggin WingDinger Jun 2012 #14
I don't think people in general CJCRANE Jun 2012 #16
They see the three trillion dollars horded by big business. They see that Wall Street has stopped fu WingDinger Jun 2012 #18
Voters disfranchisement is a generational problem Herlong Jun 2012 #22
Not sure how disenfr. applies. Unless you mean the people being dissillusioned, demoralized WingDinger Jun 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Jun 2012 #20
Their "somewhat functional" government would be Stasi-esque. marmar Jun 2012 #13
Under no circumstances would it be "better to have Romney"! femmocrat Jun 2012 #17
I am not proposing my vote for Romney, but voters thinking this. WingDinger Jun 2012 #19
You are wrong! Very wrong! longship Jun 2012 #24
Hard subjects avoided, gets us doom and gloom, and cluelessness. WingDinger Jun 2012 #25
You're wrong. Probably not, but you said please. rucky Jun 2012 #26
 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
2. That is the message the Rethugs send their base.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jun 2012

We NEED executive AND legislative. Otherwise, no go.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
27. And? We've been there, for two years, and he was so busy catering to people that hate him
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:34 PM
Jun 2012

that what little was done serves more to legitimize the republican agenda than to inspire people that don't hate him. And what about the two years prior to his election?

Do you really believe that Americans prefer crazy?

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
4. Um, no.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:25 PM
Jun 2012

This so-called "stasis" is still better than what Bushco left us with. Plus why reward the people who caused the crash and the "stasis"?

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
5. You're wrong.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:28 PM
Jun 2012

We can solve the problem by all working our asses off to elect Democrats to legislative office, both in federal and state legislatures. If we do that, your point is pointless.

That's my plan. What's yours?

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
15. Well, all the folks I know through the Minnesota DFL are
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:50 PM
Jun 2012

fired up to GOTV, so I guess there are others who think so, too.

We've got Minnesota. How's your state?

 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
21. That is one problem. Calif, is Dem, so, it is of limited value to GOTV. Unless you call other states
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:12 PM
Jun 2012
 

Herlong

(649 posts)
7. I'm telling you you are wrong.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:30 PM
Jun 2012

Voters have the last say. The battle is not about twittiling your thumbs about who will win. The battle is about getting to every last voter. And after the battle is won, then you can twittle your thumbs. Bottom line, stop twittling your thumbs and get to work!

 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
8. Yup, also though, I worry about the capital strike. If multinationals dig in further.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:33 PM
Jun 2012

Wrote an article about it some time ago. That too is in peoples minds.

 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
11. No, but to not seem ineffectual, Obama must tell how he will override them all.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:38 PM
Jun 2012

Or, the American People are outraged by the lack of ANY honeymoon period, and lash out.

 

Herlong

(649 posts)
12. I said voters
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:41 PM
Jun 2012

That means we are working within a democracy. No notion of capital strike or ransom here. And Obama lashing out? Whaaaa?

 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
14. No, the people put pressure on the recalcitrant as they are outraged that the UNAMERICANS are diggin
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:49 PM
Jun 2012

To force the multinationals, if that is possible, to capitulate. That same pressure could apply to Rethugs that dig in. The people would force them to work together.

I am talking about a meme that works for the unamericans. To make voters throw up their hands.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
16. I don't think people in general
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:51 PM
Jun 2012

have any notion of a "capital strike". I also think that the lack of investment by many corporations is more due to a lack of demand caused by austerity policies around the world. People worldwide are waking up and realizing that these austerity policies don't work and that demand-side growth policies are needed.

 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
18. They see the three trillion dollars horded by big business. They see that Wall Street has stopped fu
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:54 PM
Jun 2012

funding Obama's campaign. This is noticed. I am not a concern troll, but this must be fought, as a concept. I have worried about this for months. As I stated in my article, the Rethugs will actively use these concepts towards the end. To frighten voters.

 

Herlong

(649 posts)
22. Voters disfranchisement is a generational problem
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:14 PM
Jun 2012

and if you want to look at recent problems you only have to look as far as Florida and Rick Scott. Keep trying to blame Obama on Democratic Underground.

 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
23. Not sure how disenfr. applies. Unless you mean the people being dissillusioned, demoralized
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:20 PM
Jun 2012

and stay home. What I am talking about is the Rethugs are selling inevitability. Austerity, Dems being ALWAYS bad for business etc. That the powers that be choose Rethugs to work with. And how to combat that theme.


We know that Rethugs are wannabe Nazi's. But the inevitable meme is what I am talking about.

Response to CJCRANE (Reply #16)

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
17. Under no circumstances would it be "better to have Romney"!
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:53 PM
Jun 2012

Even if ... and it is still a big IF.... Obama gets stuck with a repuke Congress, he can still accomplish many changes and initiatives on his own. Today's announcement on immigration is a great example.

Having Romney and Congress rubber-stamp each others' insane reactionary agendas would be the end of any progress that Obama has eked out over the past 3 years.

YOU ARE WRONG. (And advocating such heresy could get you TS'd if you're not careful! )

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