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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:18 PM Sep 2016

These Three Disastrous Statements By Trump Tonight Should DOMINATE The News Cycle!

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These Three Disastrous Statements By Trump Tonight Should DOMINATE The News Cycle! (Original Post) napkinz Sep 2016 OP
Putin Johnny2X2X Sep 2016 #1
yep, that's another one! napkinz Sep 2016 #34
Steve king just made a statement about Putin. he said he is a better leader than Obama SummerSnow Sep 2016 #51
all his surrogates are complete idiots! napkinz Sep 2016 #57
Watching show now... Satch59 Sep 2016 #2
about a half hour ago on MSNBC a Trump supporter was asked to respond to tonight's forum ... napkinz Sep 2016 #4
WATCH THIS "SHOW" NOW! Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #13
The fact that the media gives this guy any respect is disgusting. stopbush Sep 2016 #3
This ^ world wide wally Sep 2016 #7
Hugh Hewitt on MSNBC just now said, "Trump won the night." napkinz Sep 2016 #9
Hewitt is a useless piece of shit. stopbush Sep 2016 #11
and General Barry McCaffrey agreed with that piece of shit napkinz Sep 2016 #12
Sad that. stopbush Sep 2016 #14
good grief ... on CNN commentator says it has not been a good day for Hillary napkinz Sep 2016 #17
I thought this guy was anti-Trump wordpix Sep 2016 #45
yep, he's now a supporter ... last week on MSNBC he stated he was very confident Trump napkinz Sep 2016 #48
An old Rw ploy. stopbush Sep 2016 #56
remember when Hewitt asked Trump about the nuclear triad ... napkinz Sep 2016 #62
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #25
They will have post election forums discussing and absolving themselves of any wrong doing. anamandujano Sep 2016 #55
I remember when the media embraced Bush and the Iraq war. napkinz Sep 2016 #64
How about the U.S. should have siphoned off all of Iraq's oil? True Dough Sep 2016 #5
Remember when some people Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2016 #42
It's insane that he dissed the military to their faces while sucking up to a dictator and so many onecaliberal Sep 2016 #6
I saw on MSNBC earlier a poll that showed that many veterans don't trust Trump with napkinz Sep 2016 #18
THAT is insane. That's the kind of stupid I wish would get the hell out of the country. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #19
... napkinz Sep 2016 #20
As I've said in other posts... TipTok Sep 2016 #21
Virginia veterans were interviewed yesterday on MSNBC ... napkinz Sep 2016 #24
my guess is the military doesn't like wordpix Sep 2016 #47
K&R ffr Sep 2016 #8
'Take the oil' applegrove Sep 2016 #10
Hillary is talking about that right now in a press conference napkinz Sep 2016 #31
is there a #taketheoil? wordpix Sep 2016 #50
Take the oil violates Geneva Conventions: WSJ article wordpix Sep 2016 #52
Someone here likened it to the gong show. Perfect assessment of everything I've ever heard him say. lonestarnot Sep 2016 #15
which one is Matt and which is Trump? :) napkinz Sep 2016 #32
Snort. lonestarnot Sep 2016 #33
:) napkinz Sep 2016 #36
Also him saying about Iraq, "we should have just taken the oil". brush Sep 2016 #16
Trump Lays Out His Master Plan To 'Take The Oil' From Iraq napkinz Sep 2016 #37
Nobody seems to have followed up on that. Stonepounder Sep 2016 #39
"and the media just lets him slide with these nonsense statements" napkinz Sep 2016 #41
twitter talk but still no #taketheoil wordpix Sep 2016 #53
The Donald's "plan" to take the oil is the Zero Plan wordpix Sep 2016 #49
"Come down hard" on rape? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #22
next week ... let's see if the media cover the story napkinz Sep 2016 #63
They should, but they won't. The media and his racist/sexist fans ecstatic Sep 2016 #23
well after being pushed for a week, they are finally covering Bondi-gate napkinz Sep 2016 #38
I agree. Especially #3 underpants Sep 2016 #26
his surrogate Boris the Bully was on MSNBC this morning defending the tweet napkinz Sep 2016 #40
Trump’s talking about classified briefing may be most reckless thing he’s done in a while napkinz Sep 2016 #61
The imperialist comment about stealing Ilsa Sep 2016 #27
The oil was ALWAYS the real reason for that stupid invasion. annabanana Sep 2016 #28
Operation Iraqi Liberty underpants Sep 2016 #43
he's like a mobster from The Godfather napkinz Sep 2016 #44
Sad that Lauer had to coach him, not once, but twice not to spill details from the briefing. Thor_MN Sep 2016 #29
K & R malaise Sep 2016 #30
thanks malaise napkinz Sep 2016 #58
K and R Stuart G Sep 2016 #35
we have never had a more ignorant candidate ....ever. spanone Sep 2016 #46
he actually said about defeating ISIS, "When I come up with a plan" napkinz Sep 2016 #59
Didn't have the stomach to watch that particular debacle of a so-called "forum" classof56 Sep 2016 #54
Donald Trump On The Record: We Will Be One People Under One God napkinz Sep 2016 #60
Chris Hayes covering Trump's remarks about the briefers right now on MSNBC napkinz Sep 2016 #65

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
2. Watching show now...
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:25 PM
Sep 2016

Hillary was level headed and Matt interrupted her way too much...

Trump is coming off as a no nothing insulting USA prick... He's really awful...

Good choice of the 3 highlights...amazingly telling of his absolute non qualifications to be President!!!

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
4. about a half hour ago on MSNBC a Trump supporter was asked to respond to tonight's forum ...
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:31 PM
Sep 2016

He said, "Trump, President. Hillary, Jail."

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
3. The fact that the media gives this guy any respect is disgusting.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:26 PM
Sep 2016

He is an absolute buffoon.

This election season has been a stinging indictment of our lazy, stupid media.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
11. Hewitt is a useless piece of shit.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:40 PM
Sep 2016

I live about 5 miles from his place in Irvine and I can smell him from here.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
17. good grief ... on CNN commentator says it has not been a good day for Hillary
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 12:08 AM
Sep 2016

are the MSM living in an alternate universe???????

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
48. yep, he's now a supporter ... last week on MSNBC he stated he was very confident Trump
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 01:16 PM
Sep 2016

is going to win the presidency.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
56. An old Rw ploy.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 02:52 PM
Sep 2016

Designate one or two publicly visible Rs to be "skeptical" about a RW politician or policy, then watch in amazement as they are miraculously "won over" by the politician/policy at a later date.

Hewitt was just one of the designated skeptics for 2016. He was never really anti-Trump. He was playing his assigned role.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
55. They will have post election forums discussing and absolving themselves of any wrong doing.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 02:46 PM
Sep 2016

They will conclude they were not lazy, stupid or bought and paid for Repuke shills.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
64. I remember when the media embraced Bush and the Iraq war.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:37 PM
Sep 2016

They weren't reporting, they were cheerleading.

It was shameful.

True Dough

(17,303 posts)
5. How about the U.S. should have siphoned off all of Iraq's oil?
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:31 PM
Sep 2016

"To the victor goes the spoils."

The moron's idea of foreign policy is as much as a gong show as everything else he advocates.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
42. Remember when some people
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:57 AM
Sep 2016

said that the Iraq War of being all about taking Iraq's oil and were accused of being paranoid/hyperbolic? Well, now we now have a Presidential candidate pretty much saying that that taking Iraq's oil (and, by extension, anybody's) would have been/would be justifiable. Why THIS would not immediately disqualify him as a Presidential candidate is beyond me.

onecaliberal

(32,840 posts)
6. It's insane that he dissed the military to their faces while sucking up to a dictator and so many
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:32 PM
Sep 2016

Will still support him.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
18. I saw on MSNBC earlier a poll that showed that many veterans don't trust Trump with
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 12:32 AM
Sep 2016

the nuclear codes but still prefer him over Hillary.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
21. As I've said in other posts...
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 01:27 AM
Sep 2016

Most of my military circle is voting for Johnson with a few rabid Trump fans.

Haven't found an overt Hillary fan yet.

YMMV...

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
24. Virginia veterans were interviewed yesterday on MSNBC ...
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:01 AM
Sep 2016

One was for Stein. A couple were for Clinton, and the rest of them were for Trump.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
47. my guess is the military doesn't like
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 01:11 PM
Sep 2016

holding back when they can "win" with force.

Yes, they can "win" a place like Fallujah or Anbar Province but unless the US commits 10's of thousands of troops in each place we "win," we cannot hold these places.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
50. is there a #taketheoil?
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 01:42 PM
Sep 2016

Must check twitter.

Update: yes, there is #taketheoil and looks like it's trending.

Donald has a great way of wording things; he makes it easy for hashtag trends.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
52. Take the oil violates Geneva Conventions: WSJ article
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 01:46 PM
Sep 2016
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/09/08/trumps-take-the-oil-plan-would-violate-geneva-conventions-experts-say/

snip: “It used to be, to the victor belong the spoils,” Mr.Trump said. snip

But Laurie Blank, director of the International Humanitarian Law Clinic at Emory University School of Law, said Mr. Trump’s proposal would be a violation of the fourth Geneva Convention, as well as international agreements made at the Hague Conventions in 1899 and 1907.

“Under the fourth Geneva Convention, when you are an occupying power, you are a caretaker, you are administering the territory,” Ms. Blank said. “The idea is to keep it as close to status quo as possible and give it back. It’s not yours to do with it what you want.”

She also said that because Iraq is a sovereign nation, the U.S. can’t simply take its natural resources.

brush

(53,771 posts)
16. Also him saying about Iraq, "we should have just taken the oil".
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 12:00 AM
Sep 2016

He's not just a douche bag, he's an imperialist douche bag.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
37. Trump Lays Out His Master Plan To 'Take The Oil' From Iraq
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 10:25 AM
Sep 2016

By TIERNEY SNEED
September 7, 2016

To the victor goes the oil!

That was the theme of Donald Trump's master plan for how he would keep the Middle East from reigniting after he swiftly dispatches the Islamic State as president.

Asked at the NBC News' Commander-In-Chief forum about he planned to keep the Islamic State out of Iraq once he defeated them, Trump returned to his oft-recited call for the U.S. to "take the oil" from Iraq, and even offered a few details how he would go about it as President.

"If we had taken the oil, you wouldn't have ISIS. ISIS formed with the power and wealth of that oil," Trump claimed.

Pressed to explained exactly how the U.S. should take the oil, Trump said, "You would leave a certain group behind and take various sections where they have the oil."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-take-the-oil

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
39. Nobody seems to have followed up on that.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:46 AM
Sep 2016

"Take the oil" How? Where is the infrastructure? How do you get the oil from the interior of a country where you just have a 'certain group' and then you 'take various sections' and ...?

The guy has absolutely NO specifics about anything and the media just lets him slide with these nonsense statements and 'the crowd goes wild'.

My country tis dying.... <sigh>

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
41. "and the media just lets him slide with these nonsense statements"
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:53 AM
Sep 2016

Matt had no business moderating that forum.

NBC should have chosen Joy Reid!

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
38. well after being pushed for a week, they are finally covering Bondi-gate
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:39 AM
Sep 2016

We just have to be tenacious.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
61. Trump’s talking about classified briefing may be most reckless thing he’s done in a while
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:00 PM
Sep 2016

by James Fallows
September 8, 2106

Last night, at the “Commander-in-Chief” forum, Donald Trump characterized what he had heard from intelligence officials in a classified briefing, and said why he believed the briefers agreed with his political perspective and shared his disdain for the current administration. I am not aware of any previous nominee ever having done anything of this sort.

--snip--

According to a story by NBC, two former heads of the CIA share the view that Trump has crossed yet another line. As Ken Dilanian and Robert Windrem report:

Former CIA and NSA director Mike Hayden, who opposes Trump, told NBC News that in almost four decades in intelligence “I have never seen anything like this before.” (JF note: Hayden, a retired four-star Air Force general, is no one’s idea of a political lefty, and is in the camp of national-security conservatives who oppose Trump.)

“A political candidate has used professional intelligence officers briefing him in a totally non-political setting as props to buttress an argument for his political campaign,” said Hayden. … “The ‘I can read body language’ line was quite remarkable. … I am confident Director Clapper sent senior professionals to this meeting and so I am equally confident that no such body language ever existed. It’s simply not what we do.”

read more: http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/09/trump-time-capsule-98-the-classified-briefing/499190/
https://twitter.com/JamesFallows/status/773956636016803841

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
28. The oil was ALWAYS the real reason for that stupid invasion.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:18 AM
Sep 2016

"Not many people know" how much oil is there

good god man

underpants

(182,788 posts)
43. Operation Iraqi Liberty
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:59 AM
Sep 2016

They went through the whole planning stages with the acronym O. I. L.

It wasn't until they first said this to people outside of their meetings that they changed it to Operation Iraqi FREEDOM.

spanone

(135,828 posts)
46. we have never had a more ignorant candidate ....ever.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 01:09 PM
Sep 2016

he's totally full of shit. bluster. nothing below the surface.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
59. he actually said about defeating ISIS, "When I come up with a plan"
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 03:14 PM
Sep 2016

WHEN?????

I thought he had a secret plan.

Now he says he's going to give the generals 30 days to come up with a plan.

Where are the media demanding clarification?

classof56

(5,376 posts)
54. Didn't have the stomach to watch that particular debacle of a so-called "forum"
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 01:56 PM
Sep 2016

But heard a caller on the Thom Hartmann show this morning report that Drumpf had stated he's going to unite the US under "One God".

As an atheist, I can only say--Lord have mercy!

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
60. Donald Trump On The Record: We Will Be One People Under One God
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 03:44 PM
Sep 2016


On Tuesday, Donald Trump delivered another of his infamous harangues. He was shooting for a theme of unity, but made a statement that is pointedly un-American and discriminatory.

One God? And which God would that be? Trump is demonstrating his innate bigotry with the suggestion that there is a single faith in America that takes precedence over others and unites the whole nation. There may be some Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, and a vast array of Christian sects that disagree.

Once again he proves that he doesn’t understand America, its Constitution, or the principles for which it stands. Nor does he understand the religion he pretends to practice.

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=32527

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
65. Chris Hayes covering Trump's remarks about the briefers right now on MSNBC
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:25 PM
Sep 2016

Chris Hayes: "Trump threw his briefers under the bus."

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