So Colin Kaepernick endorsed Trump?

[busterbrown]

Essentially the answer is yes...

At his news conference about 2 weeks ago, essentially stated the “We have a Presidential Candidate who deleted emails and did other illegal things.. if it were any other person, you’d be in jail”

I support his cause immensely, however he took the Trump Lies pushed by MSM and ate them whole..
I wonder how many of the millions who saw his quick rant to the press were influenced to move towards Trump..

I still get sick every time I see that Clip...Essential Colin perpetuated the narrative that Clinton is a crook which certainly will continue to help a huge racist in his quest to become president..

Here’s something else..

http://thebiglead.com/2016/08/28/colin-kaepernick-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

[snooper2]

1. So he isn't very bright is what I'm hearing...

[busterbrown]

3. Bright... Not relevant..

Not in touch with facts...more like it.. But he should be told to correct his mis statements.

If he has.. i will apologize..

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

2. I feel the same

While I support him not standing for the Anthem, I find him, otherwise, a world class POS.

[busterbrown]

4. POS?

Don’t get it... Mis informed and shooting his mouth off concerning this particular situation yes..

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

28. POS= piece of sh*t

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[geek tragedy]

5. overpaid backup QB in decline said what? nt

[busterbrown]

6. He is overpaid because he had ..

a spectacular 1st year..Injuries have ruined his career. Cant run or pass like he use to.. Lost a lot of muscle tone.. according to press.

[mythology]

14. It wasn't injuries it was lack of progress

He never learned to read the complete field. And that was a problem from day 1. The injury is why he's still he's still on the team as his contract was guaranteed earlier in the year and it was guaranteed for injury. So cutting him doesn't save any money.

[geek tragedy]

21. physically he's fine, defenses have learned to adjust to his skills and weaknesses, he doesn't

know how to adjust to defenses.

See also: Tebow, Tim.

[Calista241]

7. He said both candidates were equally objectionable.

Was my reading of his full quote.

[busterbrown]

8. CONFLATING HILLARY WITH DONALD TRUMP?

Is a crime against humanity.. IMO.

[busterbrown]

52. And that shows me that you are o.k.

conflating Hillary with Trump.....Exactly why Trump is still in the race..

[Calista241]

67. I said no such thing. That was my interpretation of Kaepernick's comments.

Clinton is the clear choice for any sane minded person. Unfortunately that's just my belief, and Kaepernick is entitled to his own opinions, even if i think it's crazy and insane.

[davidn3600]

9. He hates both

Which is not exactly an uncommon opinion this election cycle.

[busterbrown]

10. Again....Conflating Hillary with Trump..

And thats the problem.. These two aren’t even in the same century..IMO.

[sarae]

33. I agree...

it annoys me to no end when people equate the two. It's completely absurd to speak as if he's equal to her in any way. It's like comparing Einstein to the village idiot.

[UTUSN]

11. I know we're supposed to defend the rights of others as our own, but his are down the priority list

of the hill I'm choosing to die on.

[Mc Mike]

12. He still should get his freedom of speech, and there's nothing wrong with

a sit in demonstration to highlight current outrageous injustice against Black Americans.

But I'd like to know his past political track record, with a view to seeing if he was already in the bag for Rove Ailes etc.

It wouldn't surprise me to see they set up someone to do something they would decry longly and loudly as "anti-American" and "treasonous", to whipsaw their opponents. And the corporate media would give them a platform to do it, for weeks.

[busterbrown]

15. I completely agree with you..

as i stated in my original post.

My Conspiracy theory? Ha... Someone came up to Colin and suggested he could calm down all the right wing male NFL fans.. with a comment vilifying Hillary.. Perhaps a coach, front office guy, agent etc.
And he took the bait..

He really needs to do something.

[Mc Mike]

26. You have a better Occam's razor explanation, bb. It beats my convoluted one.

I hadn't heard any bad political stuff coming out from Mr. K. before this.

Thanks for the o.p. and reply. Recced.

[brush]

32. He's just uninformed. His heart is in the right place but his political awareness is low.

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Athletes aren't often political as they concentrate on their sport. Lebron James, Chris Paul, Camelo Anthony and Dwayne Wade are exceptions. Their call to action to athletes to get involved and give back to the community at the recent Espy Awards probably inspired Kaepernick.

Someone needs to pull him aside and school him that Trump is the POS we all know him to be and that Hillary is more aligned with his protest's purpose.

[Exilednight]

36. in the full quote, he took a swipe at Trump too.

This is what happens when you get the two biggest candidates with lowest favorability ratings in the history of monitoring such things.

It's still a just cause and the right is attacking him non-stop.

[busterbrown]

53. I’ll say it again..

Conflating Hillary Clinton(dishonesty) with Trump, is the reason hes still in the race.
Fucking Liies.. Benghazi..Emails, Physical hysteria etc.

[Exilednight]

56. Say it until you're blue in the face.

It still won't change the facts about how the public at large views both candidates.

[busterbrown]

57. Exactly why I won’t shut my mouth..

I’m beginning to think there are many around here who feel the conflation between

Hillary and Trump...is not such a bad thing..

You think?

[Exilednight]

68. Personally, I don't really care if people conflate them. There's a bigger

Issue here, and I find it sad that people are going to allow their personal feelings about how a handful of unflattering words prevent them from focusing on a real issue.

[Mc Mike]

59. I'm still with you, 100%. I'm not a sports fan, and don't know the guy's bio.

To me, he was just a famous guy I didn't know, and he took a high profile "stand" that he got undeserved heat for. I didn't bother looking up where he was coming from, higher or lower income, urban, rural, suburban, what college, what team, what major, etc. I don't know his sports records. I supported his stand online, and gave it a couple of recs here.

You can graduate college and not be very politically aware. But it's axiomatic that there is no strata of society among Black Americans where people are backing tRUmp, holding their head up high, and being out in the open about it, hanging around a big segregated crowd and fitting in. 0 -7 % support for tRump means a supporter is an anomaly, everywhere you go. Only a few apprentices, business people, and religious business people support him, and they don't have enough clout to put any Color in the tRump audiences. Nobody but a shill wants a pic or video of themselves with tRump, so he can't get people of color to sit behind him at events. (Me sit behind tRump? Sorry, I think I left the gas on at home.) It was interesting when the tRump FL campaign head Karen Giorno let the tRump African American outreach head Sean Jackson get kicked out of the rally by security, because he's Black. The incident seems like something that would make a person sit up and take notice, if it's somebody who's concerned about politics and Race issues.

The conflation of the 2 candidates is a false equivalency. Sec Clinton's not dishonest about anything that she's been investigated about, and she's been investigated a whole big bunch. tRump leaves a constant trail of criminal slime indictments everywhere he goes, a ton of them are outstanding and unresolved, new ones are popping up. His campaign slogan should be "I'm Not In Jail Yet!"

And he has a huge record of constant lies, an easily documentable record. So he's super dishonest both ways. Maybe Mr. K doesn't know a lot politically, he's not following the political news like some people don't follow sports. Maybe he just sees the tons of high-profile police misconduct cases, and missed that part where tRump said he was "going to let Chicago top cops off the leash to clean up the neighborhoods chop chop," because suspects (civilians) have too many rights.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. no he didn't. i dont agree with his politics regarding clinton, and i think they are ill informed

however, his racial politics are quite well informed.

[Auggie]

17. Totally agree. Furthermore ...

sounds like an off-hand comment to me. Had it been made before the internet age we would have never heard about it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. This is just a way to discredit him so we don't have to deal

With institutionalized racism and racist violence

[busterbrown]

54. How the heck can you say that when

.....He specifically stated that Hillary should be in jail...

[KMOD]

16. Colin Kaepernick, like many, is fed up with racial inequality

in law enforcement and the justice system.

I don't care about what he said about Hillary. That is not as important as his message.

Black Lives Matter. Period.

[busterbrown]

18. Huh??

I stated in my op ed that I agree completely with his Black Lives Matter stance 100%.

But what he has done is essentially help Trump ( A complete freaking racist with ties to hate groups, inch towards the presidency) Is this not that important to you?

[KMOD]

19. No he hasn't.

and if you actually read his comments he called rump an open racist.

It's hard enough to get people to stop pushing rump, idiot jill and dumbass gary right here on DU, I don't know why I should be concerned about a comment made by Colin that no one is covering except for a dozen or so posters here.

Black Lives Matter. That is his message. Everything else is just a distraction from that message. So if you are 100% in agreement with his stance, it would be more helpful if you would focus on that, and not some off hand comments made clearly out of frustration.

[busterbrown]

23. Do you have any idea

how many NFL fans keep up with NFL news..
Half of all Americans state they are NFL Fans.

You are not doing any favors to Black Lives Matter Supporters..by ignoring his mis statements.

Listen he did what so many are complaining about with MSM..

He has conflated Trump with Clinton... which is a completely false equivalency which could help Trump win the election.. Are you not concerned about putting a complete racist/bigot in charge of our country?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/10350802/poll-indicates-49-percent-americans-pro-football-fans?ex_cid=espnapi_public

[KMOD]

25. I am an NFL fan.

I post on football message boards. I would say that 60% of NFL fans are right wingers. They probably got a good giggle out of his comments and then moved on. I can guarantee you that NFL fans are stoked up for Sunday and are not discussing Colin's comments.

And nobody, except for a dozen posters here are talking about his Hillary comments.

And you're not doing Black Lives Matter Supporters any favors by distracting from the message. This isn't about rump, it isn't about Hillary, it isn't about Bernie, it's about Black Lives Matter.

[melman]

34. "off hand comments made clearly out of frustration"

That's so fucking patronizing. Don't you see that?

He's a grown man. We can assume he knows what he's saying, and that and means it.

[pintobean]

37. Who are you to determine his message?

You don't get to pick and choose from what he said. It was all part of his explanation for why he sat during the anthem.

[KMOD]

38. Oh look, it's melman and pintobean

I'll say it one more time. Black Lives Matter.

and they matter more than your hurt feelings.

[melman]

39. lol

You love one thing this guy says.


The other thing he says is inconvenient for you so you say he didn't mean it.

[KMOD]

42. Because nothing else really matters.

Black Lives Matter. That is the message that needs to be heard.

[melman]

44. So that means

it's okay for you to decide for this fully grown man what he means and does not mean.

Not him. You. You decide.


I'm sure he would really appreciate that kind of support.

[KMOD]

49. .

[pintobean]

46. No. This is Democratic Underground, not BLM Underground.

Getting Democrats elected is what matters here, not promoting some pampered one percenter who says our presidential candidate should be in prison.

[KMOD]

48. Black Lives Matter is a big issue in this election.

and by the way, I have made three Hillary supportive threads today, how about you?

And if Colin's comments are upsetting you so much, why do you keep repeating them?

[pintobean]

60. You're supporting Kaepernick when he trashed our candidate

in front of a national audience (which went viral), and bragging about preaching to the choir here on this small,and shrinking, website.

[KMOD]

61. It went viral at right winger and alt left groups

but not in the mainstream. This is not about the candidates.

[pintobean]

62. Lol. That's total bs

[pintobean]

41. He didn't even say black lives matter

He did say this, though:

[KMOD]

50. OK,

it's starting to appear that you are deliberately looking for a reason to keep his comments in discussion. Nobody else is talking about this except you and a couple others.

[busterbrown]

51. i could care less about your numbers..

AND your point is exactly why I am continuing conversation..

R U going around today and defending statements stating that Hillary should be in Jail.. Is that what you are all about.. Because if you want to know the truth I think the issue of Getting Hillary Elected is as important as pointing out Colin”s mis statements..

[KMOD]

64. Well, if you want to get Hillary elected,

continuing to post that someone thinks she should be in jail is probably not the best way to go about it.

The email issue is over. Maybe you can tweet Colin if you are this worked up over it.

[busterbrown]

65. Someone? This is just not someone.

Please,,,, this is a well known NFL Player who’s conversation with reporters were probably watched by millions of perspective voters..

[pintobean]

58. This thread is about his comments

You don't get to edit them.

[KMOD]

63. Yes, this is just one of a few threads about his comments.

Another thread just focusing on his comments about Hillary, and nothing else. Nothing about what he said about rump, nothing about why he decided to have his protest.

I think it's a pathetic attempt to try to smear Colin, Black Lives Matter and Hillary Clinton all in one shot.

I'm not editing his comments, he is clearly very politically interested in racial injustice. Unless one is hostile towards the Black Lives Matter movement, it should be obvious where the focus should be.

[bravenak]

45. Thank you!

[Warpy]

22. He's a football player

Yes, he had the right to sit out a national anthem without being arrested for it.

He's also got the right to be politically stupid. It's not his field, it's not his job.

Unfortunately, he's a football player so a lot of people, mostly men, seem to hang on his every word.

This is a mistake unless he's talking about football.

[busterbrown]

24. Completely agree..

Except the more I think about his statement, the more I want him to address his “mistake”.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

47. Enormous problem. Media makes dumbed down populace think General Election is a football game.

The media is part of the dumbing-down for profit problem.

They dare not present issues logically and analytically with reference to facts. It would not be entertaining enough for the populace. Hence the relentless effort force the campaigns into a (close) horse race.

Football games fill the same role as the "bread and circuses" of the Roman Empire, with equal benefit for the ruling class and equal devastation for the longevity of the nation.

[LeftyMom]

27. In literally the next sentence he said Trump is an unapologetic racist.

[busterbrown]

29. Then right after that he

said if anyone but Hillary did what she did with emails they would be in jail..

This False equivalency is the crap which is keeping Trump in the race..

His Black Lives Matter is on the mark as far as I am concerned

[LeftyMom]

31. No, Racism is keeping Trump in the race.

He's not exactly a hit with Californians, POC, college graduates, millennials or any other demo in which Kaep falls.

[busterbrown]

35. There are many supporting Trump..

Simply because they are Hillary Haters.. This supports their cause.

[Blue_Tires]

30. Whatev... I never liked Kaepernick anyway...

[milestogo]

40. Sounds like he has had a few too many bumps in the head.

Or that there wasn't much critical thinking going on to begin with.

[MFM008]

43. Now he lost me

.....

[cwydro]

55. I said this before that it seems every opinion he has comes straight from social media.

Or the MSM.

[KG]

66. I lulz'd