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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 12:25 AM Sep 2016

Apple Is Said to Be Rethinking Strategy on Self-Driving Cars

Apple is rethinking what it plans to do about self-driving cars, just as other big tech companies appear ready to plow ahead with competing efforts.

In a retrenchment of one of its most ambitious initiatives, Apple has shuttered parts of its self-driving car project and laid off dozens of employees, according to three people briefed on the move who were not allowed to speak about it publicly.

The job cuts are the latest sign of trouble with Apple’s car initiative. The company has added resources to the project — code-named Titan — over the last two years, but it has struggled to make progress. And in July, the company brought in Bob Mansfield, a highly regarded Apple veteran, to take over the effort.

Apple is not the only big tech company pursuing autonomous driving technology. Alphabet, the parent company of Google, has tested self-driving cars on the road for years, but its focus has been on designing the underlying software and systems to make that technology work. Tesla has a self-driving feature within its cars that has come under scrutiny in recent months after a fatal accident was connected to its use.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/10/technology/apple-is-said-to-be-rethinking-strategy-on-self-driving-cars.html

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Apple Is Said to Be Rethinking Strategy on Self-Driving Cars (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2016 OP
IMHO, it's a boondoggle. longship Sep 2016 #1
I agree with the weather and road conditions problem. NBachers Sep 2016 #2
I don't know if its that, this is just Apple being Apple, they probably can't think... Humanist_Activist Sep 2016 #3
IMHO, self-driving cars are pointless. athena Sep 2016 #4
That's a very good idea. longship Sep 2016 #5
Part of the problem is that we're too spread out. athena Sep 2016 #11
Expand it, definitely. complain jane Sep 2016 #7
I just don't understand why Apple would pursue this. complain jane Sep 2016 #6
I'd be happy if they just worked on the business they've got C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #8
Hopefully, unlike the latest iPhone they whistler162 Sep 2016 #9
I think self driving cars is a terrible and dangerous idea. standingtall Sep 2016 #10
You should read the monthly reports from Google's efforts... Humanist_Activist Sep 2016 #12

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. IMHO, it's a boondoggle.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 01:06 AM
Sep 2016

The complexity of the software is going to kill this venture, hopefully before too many autonomous car riders die.

My thinking, a good part of the country has significant weather and road conditions that will make autonomous cars basically inoperable.

It sounds like a Kurzweil Matrix wet dream to me.

athena

(4,187 posts)
4. IMHO, self-driving cars are pointless.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 03:02 AM
Sep 2016

The natural extension of the idea of a self-driving car is a self-driving train, which already exists and is being used around the world. Instead of wasting effort on self-driving cars, we should improve and expand our rail systems.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. That's a very good idea.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 05:27 AM
Sep 2016

The rail roadway is constrained, unlike where I live where roads are not even paved, let alone constrained.

But then again, I've always been a big fan of railroads.


athena

(4,187 posts)
11. Part of the problem is that we're too spread out.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 09:59 AM
Sep 2016

As the oil supply shrinks (which will happen sooner or later), we will all have to move to areas where there is more civilization. Assuming we manage to stop population growth, this will be a good thing, since we will be returning more land to wildlife.

This is in fact already happening. My husband loves to point out that millennials are not as into driving as our generation was. Many of them seem prefer cities to suburbs. Whether Republicans like it or not, at some point, we will have to go back to investing in rail. I hope I'll be around to see it.

I just don't think that self-driving cars are the wave of the future. It's a very short-sighted vision, which assumes that the American lifestyle, with one car per person, is sustainable.

complain jane

(4,302 posts)
7. Expand it, definitely.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 05:55 AM
Sep 2016

I would welcome it where I live, for my own convenience and the increase in my property value to be near a station (I'm assuming).

complain jane

(4,302 posts)
6. I just don't understand why Apple would pursue this.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 05:53 AM
Sep 2016

I've been using Apple products since the early 90s. Love them, frustrated by them, still use them, typing this on my MacBook Pro. I have annoyances with their execution of the software that they already provide. I'm apprehensive about upgrading to a new OS controlling my iPhone let alone something controlling a vehicle I'm in. And again, I actually do love Apple, and I realize I'm being oversimplistic, but still...

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
8. I'd be happy if they just worked on the business they've got
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 07:22 AM
Sep 2016

Apple's incremental product strategy is a joke.
What happened to leading the way with innovation?
Each iPhone revision is just more syrupy Ive veneer.
And their Mac Pro line seems abandoned without
an upgrade in years. Seems like the bean counters
are running the show. Sad.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
10. I think self driving cars is a terrible and dangerous idea.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 07:34 AM
Sep 2016

Driving includes way to many variables. I don't believe it is possible to program a car how to react properly in every situation. Better a human with actual reflexes behind the wheel.
 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
12. You should read the monthly reports from Google's efforts...
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 10:48 PM
Sep 2016

I provided a link above.

The fact is that human reflexes and judgement sucks, otherwise 10s of thousands wouldn't die on the roads every year, and most of that was user error.

Not saying that self-driving cars are ready for prime time now, but we definitely pursue the technology.

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