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malaise

(268,891 posts)
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:26 AM Sep 2016

9/11 tapes reveal raw and emotional Hillary Clinton

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/09/hillary-clinton-9-11-attacks-response
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It was 26 August 2003, almost two years since 9/11, and the sickening plume of smoke that hung over Ground Zero in lower Manhattan had long since dissipated. But steam was rising from the steps of city hall, three blocks away, where Hillary Clinton was venting her rage at the Bush administration for having lied to the American people.

“I don’t think any of us expected that our government would knowingly deceive us about something as sacred as the air we breathe,” she said, her voice tightening in anger. “The air that our children breathe in schools, that our valiant first responders were facing on the pile.”

Surrounded by firefighters and the doctors who were treating them for respiratory and other illnesses incurred when they worked on the massive mound of Ground Zero rubble – the “pile”, as it was known – the junior senator from New York was incandescent. Audiotape recorded at the time by WNYC, the city’s public radio affiliate, captures a Clinton quite unlike the controlled public figure who is now a step away from the White House.

The Clinton who emerges from the WNYC tapes is passionate, raw and unrestrained. Above all, she is livid. She had just learned that the Bush administration instructed officials of the federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to reassure New Yorkers after 9/11 that the air over Ground Zero was safe. In fact, they had a pretty good idea that it was a toxic pall of asbestos, cement, glass dust, heavy metals, fuels and PCBs.

“I am outraged,” Clinton went on. “In the immediate aftermath, the first couple of days, nobody could know. But a week later? Two weeks later? Two months later? Six months later? Give me a break!”
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9/11 tapes reveal raw and emotional Hillary Clinton (Original Post) malaise Sep 2016 OP
And how did you feel on that day? nolabels Sep 2016 #1
We have all been duped malaise Sep 2016 #2
Military imperialism nolabels Sep 2016 #6
True but folks never learn from history malaise Sep 2016 #8
Pretty sure most us having to live in it and with it never would have signed up for it nolabels Sep 2016 #17
Her campaign really needs to use this stuff, IMO whathehell Sep 2016 #3
Add this to it malaise Sep 2016 #5
Good stuff.. whathehell Sep 2016 #11
There was a reporter from the guardian on cnn this morning duncang Sep 2016 #4
But then why was she booed at the 9/11 concert? maryellen99 Sep 2016 #7
Yep they're likely to be Doc the Con supporters malaise Sep 2016 #9
They buy into the rhetoric that Bill Clinton caused 9/11 maryellen99 Sep 2016 #10
You know, I absolutely get your frustration, but whathehell Sep 2016 #13
I agree nt maryellen99 Sep 2016 #14
Some of the firemen he was talking to duncang Sep 2016 #15
Yes nt maryellen99 Sep 2016 #16
Was about to post this.....nt msanthrope Sep 2016 #12

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
1. And how did you feel on that day?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:41 AM
Sep 2016

and subsequently do you feel that you have been duped in the aftermath?

RIDICULOUS MILITARY SPENDING: 12 Facts That Show America Can't Afford To Police The World Anymore
www.businessinsider.com/us-military-spending-is-out-of-control

malaise

(268,891 posts)
2. We have all been duped
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:46 AM
Sep 2016

America isn't policing the world - it's just a new version of imperialism

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
6. Military imperialism
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:08 AM
Sep 2016

Analogous, if the use of force could win the day then cops would rule the world. We are losing the bet and some conglomerate group of nations from the asian pacific will rule it in the near future. When you apply the actual producing force of your group to accomplish feats that people want and need eventually your force gets multiplied

Presently we are living on the fat of the land from things that were produced fifty years ago

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
17. Pretty sure most us having to live in it and with it never would have signed up for it
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:45 PM
Sep 2016

If anything, this empire thing would be something we actually could blame on the Roosevelt office tenure.

Then you have the other side, they were saying we shouldn't get involved and they are still the biggest losers at this present time.

Maybe we could do like Britain and pass it on to some other unsuspecting entity*






*This of course without the requisite Hitler type nation trying to take us over in the process

whathehell

(29,065 posts)
3. Her campaign really needs to use this stuff, IMO
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:52 AM
Sep 2016

The Dems, in general, need to be much more vocal on Repuke's lousy, miserly actions and inactions. They need to attack, not just individuals, but Repuke policies, and their votes against things like veteran's benefits and unemployment benefit extensions. People need to be reminded that they even voted against extending health benefits for 9/11 first responders as they were DYING from the effects of breathing the air on that day. They need to go all in.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
4. There was a reporter from the guardian on cnn this morning
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:58 AM
Sep 2016

Talking about her and the first responders. Saying they really connected to her when she was out there with them. A short but really good interview.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
7. But then why was she booed at the 9/11 concert?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:19 AM
Sep 2016

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the firefighters are voting for Trump.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
10. They buy into the rhetoric that Bill Clinton caused 9/11
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:28 AM
Sep 2016

And don't forget that the firefighter who stood on the pile with Bush came out and said that he wished Bush had gotten OBL and not Obama.

whathehell

(29,065 posts)
13. You know, I absolutely get your frustration, but
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:34 AM
Sep 2016

the Dems are partly to blame, IMO, for not being NEARLY aggressive enough on their messaging...They need to pound the TRUTH about the Repukes' record versus THEIR record, every freaking day...I get disgusted with their lack of fight and insight...I mean, what IS the deal?....Aren't we supposed to be the 'smart party'?

duncang

(1,907 posts)
15. Some of the firemen he was talking to
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:05 AM
Sep 2016

Sounded like they actually talked to her. And saw the concern. I know some would probably be dipshit supporters. The rw has always been good at spreading lies and hate.

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