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Trump has screwed American banks so often that he's at the top of their shit list.
He's borrowed from the Deutsch Bank and from Russian oligarchs and he is up to his ears in debt.
Wonder why he loves Putin so much? Follow the money.
Way, way too much data to post here, but take a few minutes, Google Trump loans, debts, etc. Just a brief scanning of the stories will show you a bit of reality.
Tracking finances is always complex and most of us are not CPAs or forensic accountants.
But here's the bottom line. American banks won't go near Trump. Russian
billionaires will. No one knows how much Trump owes them, but the Trump/Putin love fest exists for a reason.
So if somehow Trump ends up as the next president, you should know who owns him.
kimbutgar
(21,040 posts)But sadly his brain washed zombie supporters won't care.
unblock
(52,113 posts)oh, yeah, that would be down to our fair and balanced media....
Cyrano
(15,027 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)
If Trump, through whatever means makes it to the White House, there will be no "nailing" him.
When you control the FBI, the NSA, the CIA, and all other intelligence agencies, there's not much you can do to impeach a sitting president.
And add to that, if Trump wins, the Dems will probably not control the Senate, not to mention that the Republicans will still control the House.
And guess who gets to pick the next one or more Supreme Court Justices?
If Trump "wins," "steals," or through some "rules of selecting the president," we will be screwed beyond repair.
And the real bottom line here is that if we end up with the "unbelievable" reality of a "President Trump," his "ownership by the Russians would just be the beginning of the end for America.
There's still time to stop this nightmare. And the answer is to stop Trump from ever getting near the White House.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The popular media are transfixed by Clinton's earrings, the squeaky-clean Clinton Foundation, and how nice bigots are. Besides, Trump's finances are soooo complicated! He says everything's fine, so why get all into the weeds about it?
meow2u3
(24,757 posts)as the real reason Despicable Don fawns all over Bad Vlad. He's afraid he and his family will be whacked if they don't pay their Russian creditors pronto, since his US credit rating is shot to hell.
lindysalsagal
(20,570 posts)And so he accuses her of using the foundation for political favors. Incredible.
calimary
(81,085 posts)All I did, just now, was google "Trump russian money", just those three words. Didn't even capitalize the word "russian."
LOTS of stuff came up. Including one of my early favorites:
|http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing
Then copy one of these (like the one above), and tweet it to the news anchor of your choice. If there's room, add the twitter handle of another anchor at another network.
For a list of those twitter handles, go HERE (and just scroll down. There are LOTS of them):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512400046
Look at it this way:
Those video clips of Hillary being helped to her car (while she's STILL on her feet, btw, not some invalid needing a stretcher, okay?). Imagine The Media instead of Hillary, in that scenario. Except in their case you DO need a stretcher, to lift them into a paramedic truck, not some standard-issue black SUV.
The media LITERALLY needs to be helped into the journalism ambulance - by those of us who are, in effect, citizen watchdogs and citizen journalists. When the pros fail, we need US, OURSELVES, to step in and, very sad-to-say, SHOW THEM HOW TO DO THEIR JOBS.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)It's important. The only problem I see is the presidents might be Repuke and are afraid to go on record.
On the other hand, if the maniac gets elected, his first order of business will be pardoning himself of all crimes and debts.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)Going public with specific reasons for a loan denials about individuals or other entities is probably real bad business at any rate no matter what one might be thinking or doing.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)If the info is there, she can make an ad.
Can the bank presidents do a class action suit?
nolabels
(13,133 posts)Bank President's going political sounds like really a stretch at any rate. What bank executive would risk any part of a career for such a move or thinking? Their business is making money and that's how they get their jobs and advancement. They are just like cops in the way they group think, nothing gets out of the ordinary unless it's by the other party
Sure they are going to try and get money back but most likely that's a whole other department.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)It's the perfect subject matter for an ad.
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)any privileged information can comment generally on it. There is enough public info to put the pieces together.
Anchor: "Why won't American banks loan to Donald Trump"
Banker (or former banker): Having not seen Trump's personal credit or D & B rating, I can't comment directly on him, but most American banks have policies of not loaning to companies with multiple bankruptcies, especially a company with literally thousands of judgements and legal claims against it in addition to bankruptcies. . As a banker I would also be concerned that someone who had hundreds of unpaid liens from sub-contractors, wouldn't be able to find competent subs willing to work for that company, If they could find competent subs, the title might be clouded by multiple liens in the event the bank needed to foreclose.
You know....something like that...
imanamerican63
(13,725 posts)He fingerprints prints left behind will be the final broken crumb!
DAMANgoldberg
(1,278 posts)Imagine someone who is personally indebted to people that have a way of collecting not unlike the Mafia. Imagine that person was elected President of the US. He has proven to stiff ordinary people and US bankers before, he thinks he can do it now and be protected by Secret Service when they come after him or his family. This is the scenario that could easily start the 3rd and FINAL World War that will obliterate the planet as we know it.
Most of us are aware that you can't take it with you $$ that is. I don't profess to understand the mind of most 1%, but it seems to me that you can only rake more cash if you are alive to do so. They may not accept Hillary as president, but there is a really good chance that the world continues as before, and even with her policies being passed and implemented, they will still get theirs. Absolutely not a given with President Trump and Vice President Pence (who will play the role of Cheney).
Divine Discontent
(21,056 posts)became president. This absolutely would. He is in debt, won't release his tax returns that would show all this, and all of his dealings, and yet, and YET, he wants America to believe the reason he should be president is because he's this so-called great biz man!