When Hillary emerged from Chelsea's apt., a little girl ran up to her & asked her to pose for photo

[kpete]

(mho) This is what it is all about:

https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/775000147860172800/photo/1

[philosslayer]

1. Awesome!!

A great, completely spontaneous moment.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Notice Hillary changed out of the Wool Suit.

[Hekate]

4. I saw that. It was an adorable moment!

[matt819]

5. Can you even imagine

A comparable scene with the orange one?

[sarae]

19. I doubt any child would willingly run up to Trump

to ask him anything. He looks like the boogie monster.

[NewJeffCT]

59. His security would tackle the little girl

and his supporters would jeer death threats and insults at the girl and her family.

[Motley13]

53. I wouldn't let my little girl near that lecher

[GoCubsGo]

6. OMG! She looks like she's on Death's door!

[mcar]

7. Very cute!

[run_mac_run]

8. Why do we call her Hillary, but

we refer to Donald Trump as Trump. I've never seen Trump called Donald.

I used to think that it's because is to avoid the confusion between Hillary and Bill - but then I remembered we've had George H. Bush and George W. Bush. In referring to the younger Bush, we always said Bush, knowing that context will explain which Bush we meant.

This problem is in both 'liberal' and 'right-wing' media.

The only reason is misogyny, subconscious or otherwise. This actually delegitimizes Mrs Clinton.

[mnhtnbb]

9. She identifies herself as Hillary in her campaign.

Take it up with her.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/

[Fast Walker 52]

10. I do it because it's easier than writing out Hillary Clinton. But often I write HRC

Also, Hillary tends to use her own name for her campaign. Her logo is "H", not "C" or even "HRC".

[Fast Walker 52]

11. however, welcome to DU!

[stopbush]

12. We called him W, or Dubya, or Junior or bush (as opposed to Bush).

Your point?

[a kennedy]

15. and I just call him. " * "

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Molly Ivins called him Shrub. He called his company Arbusto (Sp.) but it (ironically) went BUST. .nt

[Lochloosa]

65. I have other more "colorful" names for him.

[mountain grammy]

13. Not really..

in my opinion. Bernie is Bernie, Hillary is Hillary and Trump is an asshole, or at least that's how I refer to him.

[a kennedy]

16. ^^^^this^^^^

[BlancheSplanchnik]

18. Lolol!

He's Shit Weaselhat to me.

[mountain grammy]

31. I'm stealing that!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

33. Use and enjoy!

[smirkymonkey]

41. I saw cheeto-faced, ferret topped shitgibbon today on Pinterest.

I'm kind of liking that one, but yours is good too!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Hair DrumpFührer, Mango Mussolini, tRump, Don the Con, .... so much to choose from

[mountain grammy]

32. Mango Mussolini.. love it!

[Rhythm]

71. Cheeto Caligula!

[Rhythm]

70. ^^^ THIS! ^^^

[TeamPooka]

14. Hillary is her brand name. BTW, in NYC we've called him The Donald for 30 years.

[IronLionZion]

26. Welcome to DU!

"We" do all sorts of stuff. I often refer to him as Drumpf or Donny. And George W. Bush was often referred to as W. There's even a movie called W.

[Cracklin Charlie]

27. Does it delegitimize her opponent when I call him Assface?

I hope it does.

I will not speak or write his name.

[Akamai]

40. Very, very understandable and laudatory! And for his

republican enablers -- especially SCOTUS and the MSM, including the NYTIMES -- curse words do not begin to express my anger!!!

[Nevernose]

28. To differentiate from the OTHER President Clinton?

At least that's why I do it.

[whopis01]

29. I never refer to her as Hillary. Always as Clinton.

[Enrique]

30. you're right

please design a new logo for her with a C instead of an H, and then we can all insist that she change it.

[calimary]

35. Welcome to DU, run_mac_run!

Some of us have frequently used "The Donald" to refer to Humpty Trumpty (or Trumpty Dumpty).

I also use "Hillary" and "HRC." I've used "Clinton" and "Mrs. Clinton" but I find myself kinda veering away from the "Mrs." part.

There's just a whole bunch of new territory that now has to be considered if she wins. There's just a whole bunch of new territory re: what we call her, AND him. As minuscule as this is, in the greater scheme of things, it's something that has to be considered. Would she be "Madam President"? Would he be "First Spouse"? Or "First Gentleman?" Frankly, there will eventually be a second woman President at some point in the future, so that's gonna matter. And will she be "President Clinton"? Does that matter, since we've already had a "President Clinton"? With Bush 1 versus Bush 2, to differentiate, you always had to emphasize the "H-W" for the first President Bush so it was clear you weren't talking about his ne'er-do-well son. Would we have to refer to her by her full name and title for that reason? To differentiate between President Bill Clinton and President Hillary Clinton? Or will she want Rodham to figure in there, officially, too? Would she want to be referred to as "President Hillary" for that matter?

We just don't know yet. I'm actually rather fascinated by it, by this aspect in particular. Because again, we'd be breaking new ground, and setting a new standard - a new tradition.

[uppityperson]

36. It used to bother me also, but I've come to realize it's by design by her. And no. We didn't call

him Bush, but W, or the shrub.

[madokie]

39. Enjoy yourself

tRump is referred to as tRump but myself and some others here. He's not a president in anyones imagination and will be beat like a drum come november 8

[Blue Idaho]

43. I call her Secretary Clinton.

It is a title she earned and honored by her work. It is in line with all previous Secretaries of State and as it is considered her highest government rank it is appropriate... Until we can call her President Hillary Clinton that is...

[greymattermom]

57. Hillary is Secretary or Senator Clinton

Bill was Governor Clinton. Before their presidential elections, that is.

[Blue Idaho]

61. True!

I hope soon we will be able to confuse Bill and Hillary by talking about "President Clinton" as in... "Which one?"

[MADem]

44. Have you ever seen her campaign gear?

And we call Donald "The Donald" -- or "The Con-ald" plenty. In fact, "The Donald" was known as "The Donald" before Hillary came on the national scene. You have not been paying attention if you did not know this.


They're still using that term--between eagle attacks:



Let's look at a couple of HRC signs:


?w=500&h=282




She made her candidacy announcement standing on a MASSIVE, GIANT "H" for HILLARY -- not a stage that spelled out "Clinton."

If it were up to her, she would have kept "Rodham." She liked her name. Society and faux conventions pushed her into taking Bill's name, and she did it so he'd win an election.

And we didn't (and do not) always call Bush "Bush." The older one is Bush the elder, Bush the First, George H.W, or Bush 41. The younger one, when we aren't calling him Dimsum or Idiot or Moron, is Bush 43, Dubya, or W.

[Rose Siding]

46. I agree that it's disrespectful when media calls him "Mr" and her by first name

within the same piece, whether written or on tv. When the press is talking about both they should both be referred to at the same level of formality or it is misogynistic.

Here, it just seems more familiar, and she did encourage it among supporters. I usually write HRC. I've read that's how staff always referenced her to differentiate between Clintons.

Welcome to DU

[cwydro]

52. Everybody called Bernie by his first name too.

[treestar]

58. I use "Donald."

I don't want him to sound serious.

One thing Ted Cruz did right (and it may be the only thing) was that he addressed him as "Donald." He has not titles like Governor or Senator and that should be highlighted.

[NewJeffCT]

60. The Clinton campaign has been emphasizing her first name

The Trump campaign emphasizes his last name because of the Trump brand.

[NCTraveler]

79. They have both branded themselves as such.

It was their own doing. Look at Clintons logo.

[kentuck]

17. The "Deplorables" are already mocking her.

This was in the comments in the tweet above:



Could we get a show of hands for all those Trump followers that are offended by the terms, "racist", "xenophobic" or "sexist"??

[LiberalLovinLug]

24. Its awful

The majority of those comments are saying it was staged. She simply cannot be allowed to be seen as human. The Hate Media has so tarred her that anything positive that may go her way is immediately dismissed as orchestrated, no matter how small.

Its very concerning to me that even if she gets in, almost half the population will already have been marinated in Hillary/Clinton hate for decades, and it will only increase on Hate Media during her term. And gawd help her if she makes any kind of stumble in office. Obama at least had a honeymoon period because not too many knew much about him, and he had no baggage, whether real or invented.

[kentuck]

25. And Romney was nowhere near as unstable as Trump...

no matter what you may have thought of him as a person.

[TNNurse]

48. I agree with much of what you said, but

I would not call that nasty little GOP meeting immediately agreeing to block anything he wanted a "honeymoon period".

[LiberalLovinLug]

66. You're right

I guess I was meaning more that what you describe, the blocking, happened because they had nothing else they could do. They had no "dirt" they could blow up and exaggerate. With Hillary they have a running start.

[SunSeeker]

20. That little girl will treasure that picture forever.

[Get.Real.Now]

23. the joy and sense of possibility

I have loved seeing the joy and sense of possibility Obama's presidency has brought to people of color, especially the children. I look forward similar inspiration from Hillary's Presidency.


p.s. I know it is a little washed out but does'nt pink count as a color?

[calimary]

37. Welcome to DU, Get.Real.Now!

"The sense of possibility." That is a great point. A great way to word it. I get that, completely.

Something that really drove this home was a comment made by some politician guesting on one of the MSNBC shows, who also was the father of school-age children. He recounted one morning at the kitchen table, wherein his little girl was eating her breakfast on her little plastic placemat that featured all the Presidents. "Meet the Presidents," I think - because my kids had that one, too, along with the ones about the solar system, the map of the US, the map of the world, various dinosaurs, and so forth. He said his daughter looked up at him, after regarding that placemat, and asked - "why aren't there any girls?" And her dad concluded his interview segment by pointing out that this really gave him pause, and that he didn't have a good answer for her. Which was one of many reasons why he was supporting Hillary Clinton.

I remember reading about how amazing and revolutionary the whole concept was to wrap one's brain around, because of President Obama: the very idea that Black kids actually can now look at the Presidency, for the first time in ANY of our lives, and see themselves in the Oval Office because of who the occupant of that office is. But then, for me anyway, I started wondering how little Black girls see that. Do they see a difference? How do they see it, versus how little Black boys see it? Any of our Black sons surely sees himself in the Oval Office, since President Obama. How about our Black daughters? Or is something still not quite there yet?

[lupinella]

34. K&R n/t

[smirkymonkey]

42. How sweet!

Truly iconic. What an adorable little girl!

[Fast Walker 52]

45. apparently some of the Alex Jones people are saying this was not Hillary and it was a body double

these people just can't get any more loony.

[Democat]

49. It was an android!

Or a drone?

[Fast Walker 52]

63. maybe just a robot?

[Odin2005]

47. Awwww!

[yuiyoshida]

50. An event that just might

Change her life. Future voting Democrat! She is sweet, ne?

[liberal N proud]

51. Hillary is inspiring an entire generation of young girls and women

[Motley13]

54. he is maggot to me

although DD is good too.

I cringe when they call him mr. trump (i can't even give him a capital letter)

[Helen Borg]

55. The little girls looks like an angel!

[OnlinePoker]

62. She should not have done that if she has pneumonia

She is contagious.

[hexola]

64. Yep - since they've claimed other staff members have been sick also.

Doesn't seem like a great move, regardless of how cute it may be...

http://www.people.com/article/hillary-clinton-staff-sick-pneumonia

The illness that sickened Hillary Clinton with pneumonia and caused her to have to be escorted away from September 11 ceremonies in New York on Sunday also struck down several members of her campaign team at Clinton headquarters in Brooklyn, PEOPLE has learned.

"Everyone's been sick," a campaign source tells PEOPLE.

[Moonwalk]

67. I imagine the mother of that child will have her checked out. But that's the campaign trail, right?

...politicians have to shake hands, hold babies, and give little girls photo ops when they spontaneously run up. I've never yet heard of a male presidential candidate, who had come down with something after being on the campaign trail, saying along the way, "I can't give you a photo, handshake or kiss the baby because I may be coming down with something..."

Once again, the double standard reigns. Male politicians are just reported as being sick and taking a rest after a hard campaign. Hillary is seen as being cruel and horrible for maybe infecting a child.

[Helen Borg]

78. It's different if the politician KNOWS that they have something contagious.

If they don't know, that is a different story. ANY politician.

[Moonwalk]

83. I know it SHOULD apply to any politician, but in our history we've had male president...

...after male president who KNEW they had something wrong with them, and they kept it secret and there was never a "they would have said!" afterwards. From FDR's heart to Kennedy's back to Reagan's Alzheimer's. Now before you yell "That's not the same!" YES, I know that. HOWEVER, there is no way I can prove that any male politician who took time off during a campaign to recover from a contagious disease KNEW he had it while he was out shaking hands and kissing babies.

That has never yet been reported by the news. THAT is my point. I find to believe that it NEVER happened to anyone running for president before. And I find it hard to believe the it NEVER happened within the last, say, 40 years of wide spread media news and doctors confirming someone has something contagious like a cold, flu, etc. and that's why they're taking a rest.

So, I stand by that double standard. I'm not saying it makes it right for Hillary to have interacted with other people and the little girl IF there was a strong chance she had this and was contagious, which there was given that others had come down with it. BUT I do think that, as usual, she's going to get hammered for it where as if Trump had been the one, he wouldn't.

[MADem]

73. No, she's not contagious. She'd been on antibiotics for 3 days.

Good grief, don't swallow the right wing themes so easily.

We rely on science.

[Helen Borg]

77. Can you please provide us with a link

to the statement that being on antibiotics for 3 days makes you not contagious? What exact type does she have anyway?

[MADem]

81. Google is your friend, too! nt

[Helen Borg]

82. That is like using a 1B page book

As a reference for a statement on a scientific paper. Would not pass peer review.
In any case, my friend Google does not agree with the statement: after 3 days on being on antibiotics, a person with pneumonia is not contagious.

[MADem]

87. Your concern is touching. nt

[Helen Borg]

89. Deflection attempt.

The question is: Is a person with pneumonia still contagious after 3 days of being on antibiotics? As you claimed.

[MADem]

91. Not at all. And there is no question, either. nt

[Helen Borg]

92. That question remains, whether you like it or not.

[MADem]

93. No, it doesn't. The people asking it have an agenda.

Don't worry about what I like--really.

[Helen Borg]

94. Yes, they have the agenda to know.

[MADem]

96. Oh, sure.

Nice sig line.

[Helen Borg]

97. Glad you like it.

[WillowTree]

84. That's only significant if she's got a bacterial strain of pneumonia.

Most pneumonia is viral so antibiotics don't treat the disease. Antibiotics are still prescribed (usually) with viral pneumonia to help the patient ward off further infections when their immune systems are compromised, but they wouldn't affect whether or not she would be contagious.

[Helen Borg]

76. Agree... But perhaps they know

It's not a kind that is very contagious? http://www.medicinenet.com/is_pneumonia_contagious/page2.htm

If the mother and the kid knew Hillary had pneumonia, then I'm OK with it. Otherwise I'm a bit disturbed by it.

[shireen]

68. I'm impressed that the Secret Service let her through

That was decent of them.

And i LOVE her yellow shoes!

[jberryhill]

80. In all likelihood it was staged

Because, seriously, they don't let people simply run up toward her.

[Abouttime]

85. Regardless it's a beautiful image

Politics is all about image, the staffer who staged this photo was brilliant, it's the perfect image to portray Hillary after such a horrible video of her being shoved into the van.
Hillarys staffers need to get much tighter control of the images coming out in these last weeks of the campaign. Another image of Hillary falling or staring blankly off into space will further the talk of her (alleged) health problems. We've got this thing just about in the bag, we cannot afford anything coming out that doesn't fit with what the public is being told, just a case of dehydration and pneumonia.

[jberryhill]

86. Oh I agree with all that

But I do find it amusing that people think that it was spontaneous, and that this child just happened to run up to her and was permitted to do so without being checked out.

[shireen]

95. i think Hillary reached out to her

I watched the video again. It looked like the kid was standing nearby. Hillary gestured to her to come over, then asked her name. It was really sweet. s

[Bucky]

69. How did that little girl get past Secret Service?

She needs to be brought in for questioning. Maybe she needs a nice long recess in Gitmo.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

72. I think she is guilty of

being too damn adorable!

[GoCubsGo]

74. It's not her. It's a "body double."

But, seriously. This is the latest conspiracy theory floating around the wing-nut-o-sphere. Not kidding.

[davidn3600]

88. Im sorry but I got to lean towards this being staged

Considering since recent reports of ISIS using kids as suicide bombers, I can't imagine secret service just lets someone random...even a kid, run up to her like that without being questioned or vetted or checked out.

[Jim Beard]

90. I really feel dumb

I thought it was her granddaughter at first. it was a quick image on TV