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Hillary's First Move - Break Up The MSM And Enforce Anti Trust Act. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Sep 2016 OP
That sounds like a clear 1A violation FBaggins Sep 2016 #1
Anti Trust laws should have prevented consolidation Cayenne Sep 2016 #2
When you're done with that time machine, may I borrow it? FBaggins Sep 2016 #5
The anti trust laws prevented Comcast and Time Warner consolidating onenote Sep 2016 #13
breaking up a company is nothing like putting it out of business unblock Sep 2016 #3
Breaking up the media is not shutting it down. backscatter712 Sep 2016 #11
She'll have a magic wand and will suspend the Constitution? KittyWampus Sep 2016 #4
Media consolidation has DESTROYED the fourth estate. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #6
The media needs to be broken up, but not because of the hate against Hillary, but because still_one Sep 2016 #7
Except that much consolidation results from how we consume media. Igel Sep 2016 #10
90% of the talk radio airwaves are filled with the conservative view point. Titans such as clear still_one Sep 2016 #12
Apparently, monopoly has a different meaning on this thread onenote Sep 2016 #14
IBTSD sarisataka Sep 2016 #8
K&R smashing large corporate media control is dangerous and brave! They too, must obey laws Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #9
In 5 minutes on my phone I can go to the Guardian online, LBN on DU, the BBC, Nye Bevan Sep 2016 #15
of course, we have the '96 Telecommunications Act to thank for a lot of this Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2016 #16
Sad But True. There Is No Way To Be Bipartisan With Evil. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2016 #17
So put any news organization out of business that disagrees with the President? davidn3600 Sep 2016 #18
The lens through which melm00se Sep 2016 #19

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
1. That sounds like a clear 1A violation
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:23 AM
Sep 2016

"I don't like what I think you're going to say, so I'm putting you out of business" ?

Cayenne

(480 posts)
2. Anti Trust laws should have prevented consolidation
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:27 AM
Sep 2016

It would not have been a 1A conflict if Time-Warner would not have been allowed to swallow all the little fish.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
5. When you're done with that time machine, may I borrow it?
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:38 AM
Sep 2016

There are some stocks that I want to buy.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
13. The anti trust laws prevented Comcast and Time Warner consolidating
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 11:09 PM
Sep 2016

And I don't think you know what a monopoly is.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
3. breaking up a company is nothing like putting it out of business
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:32 AM
Sep 2016

that said, any legal/enforcement action against the media would certainly be painted as an attempt to control its content and message, and therefore would be a political disaster.

aside from that, i don't think the media reaches the legal requirements for antitrust action. there appears to be reasonable economic competition, even if there isn't intellectual or political competition.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
11. Breaking up the media is not shutting it down.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 03:30 PM
Sep 2016

In fact it isn't even a punishment, legally speaking. A mandated breakup is a legal/regulatory remedy available when the government determines that a trust or monopoly harmful to the American people exists.

It's telling big monopolistic corporations "You have to break up into two or more smaller corporations."

The pieces of the former monopolistic media mega-corp can still exercise their First Amendment rights.

All Clinton has to do is enforce pre-existing law.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
4. She'll have a magic wand and will suspend the Constitution?
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:34 AM
Sep 2016

Plus, that whole separation of powers thing...

still_one

(92,183 posts)
7. The media needs to be broken up, but not because of the hate against Hillary, but because
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:39 AM
Sep 2016

the mass media mergers have essentially created a monopoly, where a few corporate media outlets control the flow of news and information, especially since there is no equal time requirement or fairness doctrine

Igel

(35,300 posts)
10. Except that much consolidation results from how we consume media.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 03:26 PM
Sep 2016

With less revenues, foreign correspondents are harder to maintain. With less circulation, fixed costs become prohibitive.

The other side is that there are many, many more media sources. If you just look at broadcast media, there are only a few news sources. Add in cable, and there are more. Add in domestic written sources (now available over the Internet), there are more. Add to those international written sources, and it's scary. Pitch in social media, and there are still a lot more.

I drown in all those media sources, to be honest. It's easy to pick and choose just those that you like.

If you have no Internet and no cable, then you have far fewer sources.

still_one

(92,183 posts)
12. 90% of the talk radio airwaves are filled with the conservative view point. Titans such as clear
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:32 PM
Sep 2016

channel set the agenda, which doesn't always match the demographic they serve. A perfect example is the San Francisco Bay area. There used to be a good variety of voices from all view points heard. That is now predominately filled with a conservative agenda. The cumulus broadcasting takeover of KGO was the final straw.

Yes on a national level there can be found sources that present progressive voices, but those are extremely small fish.

As far as broadcast media in general, such as local channels, yes they present a more neutral voice, but most have very little national coverage.

As for CBS, ABC, and NBC they are owned by huge corporations that influence the agenda. While most realize the blatant distortions of Fox News, some may not be aware of the Sinclair Broadcasting Group which announced plans to FORCE its affiliate stations to preempt regularly scheduled programming and air the anti-Kerry documentary, "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal", just days before the election involving many critical swing states such as Ohio, Florida, Iowa and Wisconsin.

http://www.alternet.org/story/20208/sinclair's_shame

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Honor

The WMDs which were propagated by 95% of the media, and provided public support for the invasion of Iraq based on a lie, is another

onenote

(42,700 posts)
14. Apparently, monopoly has a different meaning on this thread
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 11:11 PM
Sep 2016

than it has in the law.

Or economics.

There are vastly more sources of information today than there were in the past.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
15. In 5 minutes on my phone I can go to the Guardian online, LBN on DU, the BBC,
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 11:19 PM
Sep 2016

the Economist, and MSNBC. And yet somehow there is a media "monopoly" that urgently needs to be broken up? Ridiculous.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
17. Sad But True. There Is No Way To Be Bipartisan With Evil.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 02:14 AM
Sep 2016

Telecom '96 was a GOP piece of legislation designed by the media types. Still do not understand why Clinton supported it.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
18. So put any news organization out of business that disagrees with the President?
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 02:59 AM
Sep 2016

Are some of you completely oblivious to the First Amendment?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances


What is it about that amendment don't you understand?

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
19. The lens through which
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:35 AM
Sep 2016

all amendments/protected rights are viewed is:

It's a right to be protected only if I agree with it.

you can easily find this attitude around the 1st and 2nd amendment. Kind of makes you question why they have their Progressive card at all.

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