If Hillary Had to Drop Out, Here's How a New Democratic Candidate Would be Chosen

[lovuian]

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/09/if-hillary-had-to-leave-the-ticket-this-is-how-a-n.html

1. Huge Disclaimer Which We Beg You To Read

First off, please, please, please let us make abundantly clear that this article is not an endorsement of any alt-right conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton’s health, nor are we trying to implicitly state that Hillary Clinton’s recent coughing fit or her apparent stumble outside the 9/11 memorial service were anything more than what her campaign says they were—seasonal allergies and a previously diagnosed case of pneumonia aggravated by dehydration. Seriously, we’re not. We fully expect her health issues to be resolved within a week, at which point none of this will matter.

That being said, it’s completely human for even her biggest supporters to digest yesterday’s news and wonder exactly what would happen if a presidential nominee could no longer run on his or her ticket—for whatever reason. And if we failed to write about this curious element due to fear of legitimizing a political fringe, well, that would be operating out of fear, and that’s not great either. (And yes, we are highly aware that this preamble will go straight into the void and totally fail at preventing accusations of a covert alt-right agenda…but hey, at least we wrote it.)

it gives interesting info

[misterhighwasted]

1. LOL. sounds like a Sanders promo.

Wishing & a hoping.
I call bull shite on this entire OP
Its stupid. Hillary has pneumonia. She'll recover & go on to win the 2016 Presidency.

Why would she drop out?

[democrattotheend]

6. I'm a Bernie supporter, but I want Hillary to be ok

Not hoping for her to drop out at this point, especially for health reasons.

[liberalhistorian]

31. Same here!

I'm tired of all of this ridiculous hoopla over what is, in fact, a fairly common illness.

Women just cannot win. If she'd stayed away due to her illness, she'd have been torn to tiny pieces and you'd never have heard the end of it, with "weak" and "pansy" being thrown around left and right. And because she tried to do what women are expected to do when sick, suck it up and power through it, she's being torn to tiny pieces and we're not hearing the end of it. Sick of this bullshit.

[blogslut]

2. unrec

not interesting

[misterhighwasted]

3. And totally irrelevant. Paste & bait

[Omaha Steve]

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[misterhighwasted]

13. Sure. Ok.

I was referring to the reason the poster felt the need to bring it to DU.
Why. Hillary is not bailing on this race because of a allergy related infection that became pneumonia. Treatable.

Any such Hillary reference to suggest another "what if" with no reason to back it up shouldn't be posted here in the first place.
David Schuster would be proud his conspiracy meme made its way to DU.

[bettyellen]

14. For reporting on music, sure. But politics, not so much.

[misterhighwasted]

17. Sounds like a Schuster Lead in..way to go!! Rah rah for bull shite

..posted on DU under the guise of a "legitimate " source.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512411856

Waiting for how the next similar post will be disguised as legit.
F this subject.

[Laurian]

4. I k&r your unrec!

This crap makes me crazy......Hillary is fine.

[misterhighwasted]

18. K & R your worthy K n R

we've seen enough b.s. to call it out no matter how well disguised it is.

[jonno99]

5. Hillary is fine. However, it's still interesting to understand the process. Thanks for the post. nt

[lovuian]

7. Thank you for your support

the article talks about timing and if people don't think the Democratic National Committee is concerned when their presidential candidate has pneumonia at this critical time in the election

they would be very naive

[Laurian]

11. No, I don't think the DNC is concerned about

pneumonia. It's a common illness, imminently treatable. Please stop all of this nonsense.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. No doubt, Hillary will recover from her bout with pneumonia... but, it only makes sense to have a contingency plan in place.

My guess is that the DNC has had such a plan for a long time... WAY before Hillary's time, in case replacing a nominee ever became necessary.

[jonno99]

34. Exactly. That's why we don't wait unitl there is a fire - to have fire-drills!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

8. The primaries are fucking over! Trashing thread!!!

[geek tragedy]

10. Paste Mag are a bunch of third party wankers still bitter Clinton is the nominee nt

[misterhighwasted]

15. Thank You.

They couldn't find it in themselves to call out RW b.s instead?
I vote to remove this paste & bait from DU.

[NCTraveler]

12. I really did try to read that as I find the thought of what would happen to be interesting.

The authors lack of logical thinking skills, poor sentence structure and inability to follow their own context, and the excrement they spew at numerous points throughout really forced me to stop reading.

[misterhighwasted]

16. Made me want to re-puke the Primary pile on.

[Omaha Steve]

20. We fully expect her health issues to be resolved within a week (seems upfront to me)

"We fully expect her health issues to be resolved within a week, at which point none of this will matter."

[NCTraveler]

23. Yeah.

That is some hardcore Fox reporting there. We are going to write all of this bullshit even though we think it doesn't matter. Not only that, we are going to make it borderline incoherent along the way.

I covered that aspect with my "logic" complaint.

Good eye Steve. We Report, You Decide. They nailed it.

[Codeine]

24. So what's all this about a "mysterious piece of metal" you were

speculating about over at SadsackRadicals?

[Omaha Steve]

25. I assume you have seen the video that is all over MSM

You tell me.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. The only metal I see is the van... what are you talkin' about?!

[Omaha Steve]

36. OK end of speculation for YOU since YOU don't see or hear it

I want to win in November. Polls were tightening before yesterday. I want independents and free thinkers that watch that same video to get enough info to vote for our team.

Clinton's other illness: Chronic secrecy that could cost her votes: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-clinton-trump-pneumonia-20160912-snap-story.html

By Scott Martelle

So Hillary Clinton has pneumonia. Big deal — it happens. Covering California’s 2003 gubernatorial recall election, I contracted pneumonia myself, spiked a fever of 103 degrees and could barely piece together the top of the story from Cruz Bustamente’s rather depressing election night party in Sacramento (the Democratic lieutenant governor lost badly to Arnold Schwarzenegger). But when you spend weeks on the road, working 12- to 18-hour days and eating poorly, you’re bound to come down with something.

So what’s the big deal? It’s not that Clinton has pneumonia. It’s that the campaign didn’t announce it when she was diagnosed on Friday, and did so Sunday only when forced by circumstances — she fell ill in Manhattan at a ceremony marking the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and had to be spirited away to recover at her daughter’s home. Overheated and dehydrated was the initial word, followed hours later by the truth.

Or what seems to be the truth. Which is where the problem arises. Judging by the polling, this is Clinton's race to lose, and the mishandling of her diagnosis and illness indicates that she is entirely capable of doing just that.

Snip: This isn’t to say that people should rethink, or reject, voting for Clinton because of her chronic embrace of secrecy. An ailing Clinton is still, hands down, a better alternative to Trump, who has his own secrecy issues — where are those tax returns? Where’s the full physical report from a credible doctor?

FULL LA Times opinion at link.

[Codeine]

35. Silly conspiritorial nonsense. nt

[MohRokTah]

19. What a steaming pile of bullshit.

I'll never ever click on that fucked up site.

[MineralMan]

22. Oh, for pity's sake!

What on Earth could your point be in posting this garbage?

And below, you post a link to an even worse bogus article about the DNC talking about replacing her.

Please just stop. Thanks!

[Omaha Steve]

27. Why don't you post the rules less the scum in the OP then?

They are the DNC rules. The rules are allowed to be posted on the DU as far as I know.

[MineralMan]

39. Because those rules are irrelevant. Hillary Clinton is, and will remain, the nominee.

Such speculations are nothing more than discouragement aimed at her campaign. They do not belong here. Perhaps they're the currency used at some other website, but not at DU.

Support for Democratic candidates is the currency at DU. Spend it freely here.

[Omaha Steve]

40. Former DNC chairman calls for Clinton contingency plan

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-health-replace-contingency-228037

It's extremely unlikely Democrats will have to change the ticket. But even some Clinton allies say there should be a clearer process.
By KYLE CHENEY 09/12/16 04:02 PM EDT Updated 09/12/16 06:01 PM EDT

A former Democratic National Committee chairman says President Barack Obama and the party’s congressional leaders should immediately come up with a process to identify a potential successor candidate for Hillary Clinton for the off-chance a health emergency forces her out of the race.

“Now is the time for all good political leaders to come to the aid of their party,” said Don Fowler, who helmed the DNC from 1995 to 1997, during Bill Clinton’s presidency, and has backed Hillary Clinton since her 2008 presidential bid. “I think the plan should be developed by 6 o’clock this afternoon.”

Fowler said he expects Clinton to fully recover from her bout with pneumonia, which forced her to leave a Sept. 11 memorial event early and cancel an early-week fundraising swing. But he said the Democratic Party would be mistaken to proceed without a contingency plan. The party's existing rules empower the DNC to name a replacement candidate but include few guidelines or parameters.

“It’s something you would be a fool not to prepare for,” he said in an interview on Monday. He added a note of caution, should Clinton attempt an expeditious return to the campaign trail.

FULL story at link

[MineralMan]

41. Steve...Hillary is our Candidate.

"Former" DNC chairs notwithstanding. Politico notwithstanding. My advice still stands.

[Omaha Steve]

42. Hillary is our Candidate is not the point

It's extremely unlikely Democrats will have to change the ticket. But even some Clinton allies say there should be a clearer process.

It is a what if scenario only to be prepared. He is a Clinton backer and has been since day one.

“Now is the time for all good political leaders to come to the aid of their party,” said Don Fowler, who helmed the DNC from 1995 to 1997, during Bill Clinton’s presidency, and has backed Hillary Clinton since her 2008 presidential bid. “I think the plan should be developed by 6 o’clock this afternoon.”

[chillfactor]

26. do not even go there..

Hillary will be just fine and about time she has some rest and in her own bed.

[Person 2713]

29. K

[Thinkingabout]

30. Hillary will still be nominee in the GE. Any other wishful thinking is not going to

Happen. In the Democratic Party we are rich with potential presidential candidates. Just as the nominee was chosen before the primaries would occur. It will not default to Sanders simply because he ran in the primaries.

[IntravenousDemilo]

33. I would have assumed that they'd have to go with Tim Kaine.

I mean, he was confirmed by the convention as running-mate, yes? Then he'd have to choose a veep to run with him.

It pains me to say that, because I love Bernie, but that's probably what would go down, and Kaine vs Trump would be disastrous. So Hillary had better get well as soon as possible. We're lucky that, as someone with lots of money, she has immediate access to the best medical care in the entire world.

[TammyMintonHaley]

37. disclaimers, excuses...it's the same thing, right?

...you knew better...you knew in your heart, you knew in your brain that writing this piece was wrong-headed, at best...

this is the reason for the "disclaimer"...you ever so much wanted that to absolve you of the irresponsibility of adding to the insanity of the moment, and let you play reindeer games, too, dammit...

but...it doesn't

and, it doesn't, because you knew better...you knew better, and you did it anyway...i don't know why...attention, immaturity, actually believe the conspiracies-who knows? who cares?

point is, you knew better
...and, you did it, anyway...

grown-ups don't play reindeer games

[Codeine]

38. He was just too jackpine upset about it. nt