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jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 09:37 PM Sep 2016

Bundy Bunch trial: And...we're off!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/13/oregon-militia-standoff-trial-begins-ammon-ryan-bundy

Ammon and Ryan Bundy, not dressed as cowboys, stepped into the courtroom today for the first day of the end of their lives.

From what I can gather, here are the arguments we will hear over the next few weeks.

The government's position is pretty simple: The Bundys fomented and led a conspiracy to seize and occupy the Malheur refuge.

The Bundys' position is all over the map. They are peaceful activists fighting to rebirth Rural America. The Hammonds were illegally reimprisoned. The government has no constitutional right to own land, therefore they have no standing to bring this case. They're good religious Americans who ought not be tampered with. They were enforcing the law by holding the refuge. They're deeply suspicious of the government, who is fundamentally violent.
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Bundy Bunch trial: And...we're off! (Original Post) jmowreader Sep 2016 OP
This should be good. Initech Sep 2016 #1
Oh boy! 2naSalit Sep 2016 #2
I wish they were filming all of this. Egnever Sep 2016 #3
OJ wasn't a sovereign citizen jmowreader Sep 2016 #6
They can argue all they want but their future is more jail time. I think daddy needs Jim Beard Sep 2016 #4
Some guys got caught up in this marlaky during the farm crisis of the 1980's Jim Beard Sep 2016 #5
goofus and gallant. Javaman Sep 2016 #7
K & R malaise Sep 2016 #8
I hope Oliver Stone is taking down notes. randome Sep 2016 #9

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
6. OJ wasn't a sovereign citizen
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 02:29 AM
Sep 2016

Go on YouTube and find the sovereign citizen trials. This will be similar but louder because there are more defendants.

To her great credit, the judge seems to not be tolerating sovereign citizen bullshit from these people.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
4. They can argue all they want but their future is more jail time. I think daddy needs
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 12:49 AM
Sep 2016

to get ready to pay his grazing fees to use our land.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
5. Some guys got caught up in this marlaky during the farm crisis of the 1980's
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 12:52 AM
Sep 2016

using this logic to not pay income tax. They got to explore a federal jail.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. I hope Oliver Stone is taking down notes.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 10:05 AM
Sep 2016

I'm sure that someone of his immense background and insights can make unsung heroes out of these bozos.

(Okay, I kid.)
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