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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBundy Bunch trial: And...we're off!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/13/oregon-militia-standoff-trial-begins-ammon-ryan-bundyAmmon and Ryan Bundy, not dressed as cowboys, stepped into the courtroom today for the first day of the end of their lives.
From what I can gather, here are the arguments we will hear over the next few weeks.
The government's position is pretty simple: The Bundys fomented and led a conspiracy to seize and occupy the Malheur refuge.
The Bundys' position is all over the map. They are peaceful activists fighting to rebirth Rural America. The Hammonds were illegally reimprisoned. The government has no constitutional right to own land, therefore they have no standing to bring this case. They're good religious Americans who ought not be tampered with. They were enforcing the law by holding the refuge. They're deeply suspicious of the government, who is fundamentally violent.
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Bundy Bunch trial: And...we're off! (Original Post)
jmowreader
Sep 2016
OP
They can argue all they want but their future is more jail time. I think daddy needs
Jim Beard
Sep 2016
#4
Initech
(100,054 posts)1. This should be good.
2naSalit
(86,502 posts)2. Oh boy!
Egnever
(21,506 posts)3. I wish they were filming all of this.
This would make the OJ trial look tame.
jmowreader
(50,546 posts)6. OJ wasn't a sovereign citizen
Go on YouTube and find the sovereign citizen trials. This will be similar but louder because there are more defendants.
To her great credit, the judge seems to not be tolerating sovereign citizen bullshit from these people.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)4. They can argue all they want but their future is more jail time. I think daddy needs
to get ready to pay his grazing fees to use our land.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)5. Some guys got caught up in this marlaky during the farm crisis of the 1980's
using this logic to not pay income tax. They got to explore a federal jail.
Javaman
(62,507 posts)7. goofus and gallant.
I think we know who goofus is.
malaise
(268,844 posts)8. K & R
Thanks
randome
(34,845 posts)9. I hope Oliver Stone is taking down notes.
I'm sure that someone of his immense background and insights can make unsung heroes out of these bozos.
(Okay, I kid.)
[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)[/center][/font][hr]