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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:34 AM

ellenrr (3,864 posts)

sometimes I am ashamed and embarrassed to be a human being

typical tweet in response to Elizabeth nj bomb news:

Rapefugee Watch ‏@RapefugeeWatch 5h5 hours ago
Muslim terrorists strike again in #Elizabeth, New Jersey


(btw, this was long before any suspects were talked about)

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Reply sometimes I am ashamed and embarrassed to be a human being (Original post)
 ellenrr Sep 2016 OP
LineReply Person went with the odds
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #1
LineLineReply I was referring to the tweeter's ID as well as the content
 ellenrr Sep 2016 #2
LineLineLineReply Yawn
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #3
LineLineLineLineReply I agree. what I think of you matters not at all. but if I were you
 ellenrr Sep 2016 #5
LineLineLineLineLineReply And I should consider myself
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #6
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply yeah... keep telling yourself that...
 ellenrr Sep 2016 #7
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply Yawn
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #8
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply this is a du post re trump on racial profiling
 ellenrr Sep 2016 #9
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply Your OP was calling out someone
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #11
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply That someone has a name. "Rapefugee Watch".
 stone space Sep 2016 #28
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Other than petulant satisfaction, what did the assumption bring you?
 LanternWaste Sep 2016 #29
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Is that question supposed to be
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #30
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply You should die for the cause...it's the only way to prove you're a lefty.
 ileus Sep 2016 #17
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply I'm not willing to die
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #25
LineLineLineLineReply I have friends in Chelsea and work 2 blocks
 La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #10
LineLineLineLineLineReply So do I
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #12
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply your muslim friends are not afraid that they too will get blamed when these things happen?
 La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #13
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply They're NYers so they've
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #14
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply So your friends are fine with someone using a rapewatch handle to describe refugees?
 La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #15
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply I have no idea what
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #16
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply Rapefugee Watch ‏@RapefugeeWatch
 La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #18
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply I don't know what that means
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #19
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply yes, that was someone's username on twitter, implying that all refugees are rapists
 La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #20
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply Yes it's gross in NY
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #21
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply im in brooklyn now and headed to the city later, so no the weather is shitty
 La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #23
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply If you're planning on subway
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #24
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply holy fuck.
 La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #26
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Yup
 leftynyc Sep 2016 #27
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply i took the handle to mean he thought it was ok to rape refugees.
 ellenrr Sep 2016 #31
LineLineLineReply Thank you! nt
 RandiFan1290 Sep 2016 #4
LineNew Reply How'd you feel when people attributed it to Trump supporters? nt
 Dreamer Tatum Sep 2016 #22

Response to ellenrr (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:45 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

1. Person went with the odds

 

And now it looks as though he/she may/is probably right:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141575921

Keeping your head in the sand about the reality is not helpful.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:54 AM

ellenrr (3,864 posts)

2. I was referring to the tweeter's ID as well as the content

then again... maybe you agree with that too.

and the reality I see is that you are an Islamaphobe, and you should change your id to "rightnyc"

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Response to ellenrr (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:58 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

3. Yawn

 

I stopped giving a crap what anyone here thought about me living in the world of reality a very long time ago. Maybe it's because I have many friends in Chelsea and have to take both a commuter train and the subway to get to work. I can't afford to live in the world of make believe.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:08 AM

ellenrr (3,864 posts)

5. I agree. what I think of you matters not at all. but if I were you

I would find it concerning that I have a pro-hillary icon and yet my islamaphobia puts me in league with millions of trumpf fans who are tweeting right now - saying exactly the same thing as you are.

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Response to ellenrr (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:16 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

6. And I should consider myself

 

an Islamophobe because some anonymous poster I don't give a crap about calls me one? Sorry, real life doesn't work that way. People who ACTUALLY know me, know I'm nothing of the kind. If you want to deny the odds were with this being a Muslim committing an act of terror, that's entirely your problem.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:29 AM

ellenrr (3,864 posts)

7. yeah... keep telling yourself that...

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Response to ellenrr (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:33 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

8. Yawn

 

Keep you head in the sand. I guess you think that works. Or you don't live anywhere where fantasy thinking can get you in trouble -either way, it makes zero difference to me.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:41 AM

ellenrr (3,864 posts)

9. this is a du post re trump on racial profiling

you don't seem to get that that is exactly what you do.


"Trump: Racial profiling may be necessary

"We're allowing these people to come into our country and destroy our country and make it unsafe for people. We're allowing these people to come in," Trump said on "Fox & Friends."

"We don't want to do any profiling. If somebody looks like he's got a massive bomb on his back, we won't go up to that person ... because, if he looks like he comes from that part of the world, we're not allowed to profile. Give me a break."

In June, the GOP nominee said the U.S. needs to start looking into the use of profiling to stop terrorism.

He said he doesn't like the concept, but it may be necessary."

sound familiar?
to me sounds exactly like what you said.
You justify your racial profiling by saying that you have to take the train, as if one has to do with the other.

racial profiling is racial profiling

and if you want to do that, acknowledge it.


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Response to ellenrr (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:48 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

11. Your OP was calling out someone

 

for assuming the terrorists were Muslims. THAT's what this thread was about - not racial profiling - unless you think playing the obvious odds makes us all haters. While I was texting all my friends in Chelsea on Saturday to make sure they were all right was I assuming the culprits were Muslim terrorists? You bet your ass I was - and it looks like I was absolutely right. Funny how you want to ignore THAT part of it.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:30 AM

stone space (6,498 posts)

28. That someone has a name. "Rapefugee Watch".

 

Your OP was calling out someone

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:32 AM

LanternWaste (37,748 posts)

29. Other than petulant satisfaction, what did the assumption bring you?

 

"I assuming the culprits were Muslim terrorists? You bet your ass I was..."

Other than petulant satisfaction, what did the assumption bring to you?

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #29)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:58 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

30. Is that question supposed to be

 

making some kind of sense? What the fuck is petulant satisfaction - is that playing the odds and actually being right?

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:38 AM

ileus (15,396 posts)

17. You should die for the cause...it's the only way to prove you're a lefty.

It's really lost on some people that once you're dead nothing else matters.

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:44 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

25. I'm not willing to die

 

to prove I'm PC. I like the world of reality - even when it's uncomfortable, even when it's not what I would like it to be, even when it's not what it should be. I stopped caring what these morons call me a very long time ago.

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:46 AM

La Lioness Priyanka (53,866 posts)

10. I have friends in Chelsea and work 2 blocks

 

From where this happened and it still doesn't push me into stereotyping and scapegoating people.

Maybe it's because I also have Muslim friends.

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:51 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

12. So do I

 

And they were thinking the exact same thing I was. They don't live with their heads in the sand and will be the first to scream from the rooftops that far too many of their co-religionists have become radicalized and it needs to stop. Sorry your friends want to pretend otherwise. Anyone who wants to pretend their first thoughts weren't that these were Muslim terrorists is lying to themselves which is not my problem.

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:58 AM

La Lioness Priyanka (53,866 posts)

13. your muslim friends are not afraid that they too will get blamed when these things happen?

 

in a way that your white friends are never afraid of when one of them shoots and kills 20 kids? or shoots up a black church? or a movie theater?

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:10 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

14. They're NYers so they've

 

been dealing with this crap since 9/11. They're the ones that pointed out to me that with over 1 billion Muslims, even if only 1% were radicalized, that still means 100 million terrorists. They don't like the reality - but they don't ignore it either.

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:35 AM

La Lioness Priyanka (53,866 posts)

15. So your friends are fine with someone using a rapewatch handle to describe refugees?

 

Reality and bigotry are not the same thing

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:36 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

16. I have no idea what

 

you're talking about? Do you?

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:44 AM

La Lioness Priyanka (53,866 posts)

18. Rapefugee Watch ‏@RapefugeeWatch

 

that is what the OP said she objected to, when you said something about living in reality.

yes, i do know what i am talking about.

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:46 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

19. I don't know what that means

 

Does it have something to do with twitter? I don't do twitter, facebook, instagram or any other social media crap. I thought it was just mentioning the likely bombers were Muslim - that's just going with the odds.

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:49 AM

La Lioness Priyanka (53,866 posts)

20. yes, that was someone's username on twitter, implying that all refugees are rapists

 

i feel like this is become a weird conversation. i think it's fine to think a random home made bomb is likely to have a muslim suspect, just as when there is a random shooting I think it's a young white guy, there are trends in sociopathic behavior. I am against calling refugees rapists (which maybe you are too), so maybe all of this circular conversation started with a misunderstanding of the twitter handle.

have a good day though, it's really gross in nyc!

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #20)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:54 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

21. Yes it's gross in NY

 

Last edited Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:45 AM - Edit history (1)

Between the rain, Chelsea and the UN, the city is at a standstill. Perhaps the original poster should have made sure I knew what that mess meant before accusing me of being a hater and Islamophobe (I'm often called that here because I don't think either the US or Israel is the root of all evil). But since it was my assumption that it was Islamic extremists that seems to have set them off, I don't think the twitter crap really mattered.

Hope the weather is kinder where you are.


Edited to change US to UN in first sentence.

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:33 AM

La Lioness Priyanka (53,866 posts)

23. im in brooklyn now and headed to the city later, so no the weather is shitty

 

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:42 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

24. If you're planning on subway

 

the delays are pretty bad but that's still your best bet. Someone in my company has been waiting over 2 hours for one of the elite car services to get them someplace.

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:54 AM

La Lioness Priyanka (53,866 posts)

26. holy fuck.

 

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:27 AM

leftynyc (26,060 posts)

27. Yup

 

Car company is blaming a combination of Chelsea, the rain and the UN. Underground is definitely the way to go but even then leave yourself some extra time. Good luck.

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #20)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:09 PM

ellenrr (3,864 posts)

31. i took the handle to mean he thought it was ok to rape refugees.

either way it offends.

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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:00 AM

RandiFan1290 (6,195 posts)

4. Thank you! nt

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Response to ellenrr (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:05 AM

Dreamer Tatum (10,925 posts)

22. How'd you feel when people attributed it to Trump supporters? nt

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