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kpete

(71,978 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:08 PM Sep 2016

Trump calls for nationwide 'stop-and-frisk' policy

Last edited Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:08 PM - Edit history (2)

Donald Trump on Wednesday called for the controversial “stop-and-frisk” policing practice to be instituted nationwide as a means of combating violent crime in America’s inner cities.

In a pre-taped interview on Fox News scheduled to air Wednesday night, Trump was asked by an audience member what he would do to address “violence in the black community” and “black-on-black crime.” Trump responded by proposing that “stop-and-frisk” policing, in which an officer is empowered to stop an individual and frisk them for weapons or any other illegal contraband, be adopted nationwide.
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“I would do stop-and-frisk. I think you have to. We did it in New York, it worked incredibly well and you have to be proactive and, you know, you really help people sort of change their mind automatically,” Trump told the questioner. “You understand, you have to have, in my opinion, I see what’s going on here, I see what’s going on in Chicago, I think stop-and-frisk. In New York City it was so incredible, the way it worked. Now, we had a very good mayor, but New York City was incredible, the way that worked, so I think that could be one step you could do.”


The practice, carried out most famously in New York but also by other police departments, is frequently criticized as an avenue for officers commit acts of racial profiling. Others tout it as responsible for a dramatic drop in New York City’s crime rate, although former NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton said in 2015 that the practice is “not a significant factor in the crime rate of this city.”


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Landmark Decision: Judge Rules NYPD Stop and Frisk Practices Unconstitutional, Racially Discriminatory
https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/press-releases/landmark-decision-judge-rules-nypd-stop-and-frisk-practices




After NYC basically ended stop and frisk, crime there hit record lows.


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/wrong-ending-stop-frisk-not-stopping-crime-article-1.2740157




An analysis by the NYCLU revealed that innocent New Yorkers have been subjected to police stops and street interrogations more than 5 million times since 2002, and that black and Latino communities continue to be the overwhelming target of these tactics. Nearly nine out of 10 stopped-and-frisked New Yorkers have been completely innocent, according to the NYPD’s own reports:

http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data
'http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/stop-and-frisk-didnt-make-new-york-safer/359666/
http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/published/frisk9.pdf






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Trump calls for nationwide 'stop-and-frisk' policy (Original Post) kpete Sep 2016 OP
If everybody can hear the racism... blogslut Sep 2016 #1
that was one of my first thoughts ... he doesn't use dog whitles ... the vulgarian uses a bull horn etherealtruth Sep 2016 #5
Not if the M$M normalizes it like they have over the last 10 months... I'm sick of them uponit7771 Sep 2016 #8
in other words... chillfactor Sep 2016 #2
The dog whistle is civil war. underthematrix Sep 2016 #3
sounds good Angry Dragon Sep 2016 #4
More "Police State" drumbeat from Trump's Supremacist Nation misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #6
Holiday in Cambodia n/t hibbing Sep 2016 #7
I bet the NRA is just SCREAMING about this.... freebrew Sep 2016 #9
Isn't it weird? gratuitous Sep 2016 #19
With the recent police unarmed shootings... Satch59 Sep 2016 #10
more of his "outreach"? napkinz Sep 2016 #11
Stop and frisk is pointless gratuitous Sep 2016 #12
If I had a bowl of M&Ms, and if I told you 3 of them would kill you Glassunion Sep 2016 #13
Well, it's no more than a logical extension of what we have now. malthaussen Sep 2016 #14
License to profile, discriminate, and moondust Sep 2016 #15
But Republicans /aren't/ a pack of old-ass racists... VulgarPoet Sep 2016 #16
so he's walking it back ... he's for it NOW and he was for it THEN ... napkinz Sep 2016 #17
Depending on who is doing the frisking, this could get very frisky! armed_and_liberal Sep 2016 #18
So, why aren't the wingers accusing Trump of being a "gun grabber?" MrScorpio Sep 2016 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #21
"Even the respectable blacks"? "you got the liberals in the way"? napkinz Sep 2016 #22

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
2. in other words...
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:15 PM
Sep 2016

any person of color...man, woman, or child.....would be systematically "raped" under t-rump....what an asshole he is.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
6. More "Police State" drumbeat from Trump's Supremacist Nation
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:31 PM
Sep 2016

He's a racist a-hole criminal and should be locked up.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Isn't it weird?
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:19 PM
Sep 2016

If any other politician had said he or she favored the cops stop and frisking anyone they thought looked suspicious enough (in the cop's sole judgment), and took away their firearms without just cause or due process, the NRA would be quite exercised about it. But for some reason, they haven't uttered a peep about Trump's public statement. Almost as if they heard something that wasn't said.

It's mystifying!

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
10. With the recent police unarmed shootings...
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:05 PM
Sep 2016

How is this idea anyway going toward his outreach?? Clueless...but maybe this will spark more enthusiasm for the POC vote??

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. Stop and frisk is pointless
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:05 PM
Sep 2016

It wouldn't have stopped John Stumpf at all. And who ripped off more Americans in the last year?

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
13. If I had a bowl of M&Ms, and if I told you 3 of them would kill you
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:08 PM
Sep 2016

Would you take out all the brown ones and step on them? Because the bad ones are always the brown ones.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
14. Well, it's no more than a logical extension of what we have now.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 08:25 PM
Sep 2016

If it's valid in NYC or Philly, why not Des Moines? It's only a difference in degree, not in kind. Once you have established that freeborn American citizens can be jacked up any time a LEO is feeling frisky, there's no reason to limit it.

-- Mal

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
20. So, why aren't the wingers accusing Trump of being a "gun grabber?"
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:24 AM
Sep 2016

Oh... That's because he only wants to "grab" the guns of black people.

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