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Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:27 AM Sep 2016

Will it be possible to send a car without a driver from point A to point B?

Will the gov't permit driverless cars to operate without an attendant in the vehicle?
Will I be able to send a car from point a to point b?
Will I be able to summon my car to pick me up?
If I park the car in a spot, can I summon it to pick me up?
If the car uses gas, will it be possible to fill up without an operator in the vehicle?
Will there be a way to pay for gas at a full service station if there is no driver?

Some stuff to think about...

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Will it be possible to send a car without a driver from point A to point B? (Original Post) Renew Deal Sep 2016 OP
Only the auto-fuel is not fairly imminent whatthehey Sep 2016 #1
Possible? Sure. Soon? Nope. Widespread? Not for decades. nt onehandle Sep 2016 #2
I don't count on the decades thing Renew Deal Sep 2016 #3
Yeah. When they developed flying cars in the last century, I was skeptical. onehandle Sep 2016 #5
There was no progress on it at the time Renew Deal Sep 2016 #6
Of course. The technology exists and it works. onehandle Sep 2016 #7
Hence, the migration of computers from labs to the home in merely 35 years. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #11
Services like Uber angrychair Sep 2016 #4
Eventually, yes. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #8
That brings up another interesting idea Renew Deal Sep 2016 #9
They have that. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2016 #10
So long as it's always a small vehicle with a stick shift PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #19
You missed an important point. MicaelS Sep 2016 #12
Brings up a critical element: Who has liability? bluesbassman Sep 2016 #14
I would imagine that there will be a new type of policy from the insurance industry MiniMe Sep 2016 #20
It is a big problem for them Egnever Sep 2016 #15
And I missed that completely. MicaelS Sep 2016 #16
In ten years you will be able to not own a car in any urban area in America workinclasszero Sep 2016 #13
When the hacker takes control of the self driving car? sarcasmo Sep 2016 #17
There was a demonstration in San Francisco last year... Xithras Sep 2016 #18
Yes, yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2016 #21
As soon as the answer to (any of) those questions is 'yes' Volaris Sep 2016 #22
Should we ban all cars? Renew Deal Sep 2016 #23

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
1. Only the auto-fuel is not fairly imminent
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:33 AM
Sep 2016

Lots of details to iron out but the technology is pretty close.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
5. Yeah. When they developed flying cars in the last century, I was skeptical.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:51 AM
Sep 2016

But today they fill the sky!

In 1940, Henry Ford famously predicted: "Mark my word: a combination airplane and motorcar is coming. You may smile, but it will come.”

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
6. There was no progress on it at the time
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:54 AM
Sep 2016

Some of the self-driving cars are already on the road. We're much further along.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
7. Of course. The technology exists and it works.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:02 PM
Sep 2016

But regulatory parameters and acceptance on main street America will keep it a PR fad for decades.

Sure, there might be dozens on highways and in New York City and San Francisco within a few years.

But one high profile crash into a group of nuns walking down the street (it Will Happen) and volumes of more red tape, skepticism of viability, and public outcry will appear.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. Hence, the migration of computers from labs to the home in merely 35 years.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:43 PM
Sep 2016

Hence, the migration of computers from labs to the home in merely 35 years. Should this follow the same trajectory, self-driving cars in 2050.

angrychair

(8,680 posts)
4. Services like Uber
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:50 AM
Sep 2016

And Enterprise and companies like Google and Apple and Microsoft are going to push this technology hard...I imagine it becoming mainstream in less than 10 years.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
8. Eventually, yes.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:10 PM
Sep 2016

I'm not about to predict when, because it's going to depend on all sorts of things, mainly exactly what technology is used.

The recent prediction that by 2025 no one will own cars because it will be so easy to summon one of the driverless cars is ludicrous, however. Maybe in the largest cities in this country, but in small towns or rural areas? No.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
9. That brings up another interesting idea
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:40 PM
Sep 2016

What if cars can remember your settings? So as soon as you get in it fully customizes to your preferences and services. Then here's almost no need to own the car. Just need a clean one to show up.

bluesbassman

(19,361 posts)
14. Brings up a critical element: Who has liability?
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 02:01 PM
Sep 2016

Someone has to own the vehicle, and will that owner be liable for any damage or injury the vehicle may cause while operating autonomously? It'll be very interesting to see how lawyers deal with that angle.

MiniMe

(21,709 posts)
20. I would imagine that there will be a new type of policy from the insurance industry
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:12 PM
Sep 2016

Many states, Maryland is one, require insurance of all cars. I would also guess that insurance to cover the self driving cars will be very expensive at first, until they get a track record on how they do.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
15. It is a big problem for them
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 02:09 PM
Sep 2016

And they are in a bit of a panic about it.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-agenda-driverless-insurance-20160620-snap-story.html

But KPMG estimates that over the next 25 years, the number of accidents could plunge 80% from current levels, which “will go right to the core of the business” of providing car insurance, said Jerry Albright, a KPMG principal also on the task force.

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett, whose Berkshire Hathaway Corp. owns Geico insurance, told an automotive forum last year that “we would not be throwing a party at our insurance business” when self-driving cars arrive, even though that day remained “a long ways off.”

If it turns out that the automakers and their suppliers end up shouldering most of the liability, they might offer insurance themselves, said Donald Light, director of the North American property/casualty practice at the research firm Celent. They might even add the insurance premium to the sticker price of new cars.

“That’s another big threat to the current insurance industry,” Light said.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
13. In ten years you will be able to not own a car in any urban area in America
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 01:59 PM
Sep 2016

You will be able to subscribe to a service that will send a self driving car to your door when you need to go someplace.

No auto insurance, no gas, no maintenance bills, no huge monthly car payment. Just one fee for the service like your cell phone bill.

If I live that long I will welcome not having to deal with personal transportation costs anymore.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
18. There was a demonstration in San Francisco last year...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 03:21 PM
Sep 2016

Driverless car pulled up in front of a destination. Driver hopped out. Car drove off, found an empty parking spot a few blocks away and parked itself. A few minutes later the driver pulled out his phone and hit a button in an app to summon the car. It left the parking spot and drove right back to the front of the building to pick him up.

The technology exists already. It's just a matter of working out the laws and liabilities to make it practical.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
22. As soon as the answer to (any of) those questions is 'yes'
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:39 PM
Sep 2016

Cars will be used as drug mules and self driving, self exploding assassination platforms.

Aren't we clever?

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