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Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:43 PM

Hey, you Texas-haters, Florida-haters, southern-haters

couldn't-leave-the-goddamn-south-fast-enough-haters, I-look-down-on-you-stupid-southerner-haters, I-love-to-make-fun-of-Florida-haters...

Since many of you are so freaking proud of your superiority in hating the south, would you add your names to my list by posting here? Some of you are so damn arrogant, I know you will be happy to declare your superiority on Democratic Underground in this little enclave I've creating just for you.





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Reply Hey, you Texas-haters, Florida-haters, southern-haters (Original post)
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 OP
Ilsa Sep 2016 #1
Buzz Clik Sep 2016 #2
Ilsa Sep 2016 #14
kcr Sep 2016 #29
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #48
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #3
Ilsa Sep 2016 #13
Different Drummer Sep 2016 #17
Ilsa Sep 2016 #24
Warpy Sep 2016 #70
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #18
Ilsa Sep 2016 #26
Jim Beard Sep 2016 #44
Gothmog Sep 2016 #68
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #76
Bucky Sep 2016 #107
Baitball Blogger Sep 2016 #61
Hoyt Sep 2016 #4
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #5
TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #6
Dreamer Tatum Sep 2016 #11
TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #15
Dreamer Tatum Sep 2016 #27
TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #45
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #19
Dreamer Tatum Sep 2016 #25
GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #56
Cooley Hurd Sep 2016 #7
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #20
demosincebirth Sep 2016 #35
narnian60 Sep 2016 #40
Cooley Hurd Sep 2016 #51
Jim Beard Sep 2016 #47
Cooley Hurd Sep 2016 #52
DrDan Sep 2016 #72
lpbk2713 Sep 2016 #8
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #22
uppityperson Sep 2016 #9
Loki Sep 2016 #10
Ilsa Sep 2016 #16
Jim Beard Sep 2016 #49
Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2016 #12
underpants Sep 2016 #23
deathrind Sep 2016 #65
sinkingfeeling Sep 2016 #21
Ilsa Sep 2016 #28
GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #59
OriginalGeek Sep 2016 #112
Name removed Sep 2016 #30
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #31
uppityperson Sep 2016 #32
demmiblue Sep 2016 #33
warrprayer Sep 2016 #39
etherealtruth Sep 2016 #97
warrprayer Sep 2016 #103
etherealtruth Sep 2016 #104
warrprayer Sep 2016 #108
radical noodle Sep 2016 #34
warrprayer Sep 2016 #36
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #54
warrprayer Sep 2016 #57
Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #58
Gothmog Sep 2016 #69
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #75
Ishoutandscream2 Sep 2016 #37
DrDan Sep 2016 #73
world wide wally Sep 2016 #38
Mariana Sep 2016 #80
jalan48 Sep 2016 #41
TwistedTinkerbelle Sep 2016 #42
Archae Sep 2016 #43
MicaelS Sep 2016 #46
Ilsa Sep 2016 #60
tazkcmo Sep 2016 #50
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #62
snooper2 Sep 2016 #117
tazkcmo Sep 2016 #118
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #53
cheapdate Sep 2016 #55
LWolf Sep 2016 #63
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #74
JI7 Sep 2016 #64
oneshooter Sep 2016 #93
cry baby Sep 2016 #66
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #77
Gothmog Sep 2016 #67
Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #79
Iggo Sep 2016 #71
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #78
TwilightZone Sep 2016 #81
muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #82
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #89
muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #92
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #94
muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #96
JI7 Sep 2016 #95
Mariana Sep 2016 #99
Jim Beard Sep 2016 #83
Glassunion Sep 2016 #84
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #90
PasadenaTrudy Sep 2016 #85
littlebit Sep 2016 #86
BigDemVoter Sep 2016 #87
raccoon Sep 2016 #88
LeftyMom Sep 2016 #91
Mariana Sep 2016 #105
MicaelS Sep 2016 #110
Mariana Sep 2016 #111
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #116
ileus Sep 2016 #98
linuxman Sep 2016 #100
JNelson6563 Sep 2016 #101
a la izquierda Sep 2016 #102
Bucky Sep 2016 #106
LanternWaste Sep 2016 #109
Paladin Sep 2016 #113
Orrex Sep 2016 #114
whistler162 Sep 2016 #115
RonniePudding Sep 2016 #119
Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #120
womanofthehills Sep 2016 #121
lame54 Sep 2016 #122
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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:44 PM

1. You don't think I should be able too complain about my home state? nt

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:46 PM

2. Do you think that is what she meant? It is NOT what she said.

 

Why would you attempt to go that direction?

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:59 PM

14. See post 13. nt

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:14 PM

29. It sure sounds like that's what she meant

I don't understand how anything is supposed to get better by ignoring problems. I don't get why some people hear criticism and think it means it's about everybody. I got shit when I complained when I lived there. I'm glad I don't live there anymore. That doesn't mean I think everyone there is bad. I think it's a shame some are too worried about being thin skinned and denying there is anything wrong. Oh, well. She can add me to her list.

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Response to kcr (Reply #29)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:02 PM

48. And comments like this:

. "GODDAMMIT! LEAVE THAT FUCKING SHIT IN TEXAS, OR SOME FUCKING PLACE!

This is Washington! We're better than that!... "


That's the kind of arrogant bullshit many of us see far too frequently, and makes it even more difficult to turn our states blue.



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Response to Ilsa (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:46 PM

3. If you live here, you are part of the solution

If you don't, leave us alone while we attempt to fix the problems in the state we love.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:58 PM

13. I live here. I was born here. I've worked my ass off.

And I don't have anything against anyone who has been able to leave for a better life, a more progressive state, a more compassionate place to live. We aren't going to get medals for our suffering. It won't be until enough people are pissed off before things change around here, and I can't force enough hardheaded assholes to finally figure it out.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #13)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:01 PM

17. This. n/t

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Response to Different Drummer (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:08 PM

24. I'm getting old, dammit, and I'm

Ready to move so my family can all resettle together in a new place where we'll be happier. At least someplace a little cooler and prettier with less pollution.

Living in Texas is hard. It's a terrible place to live in poverty with a disability, and I have someone else's needs to consider.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:27 PM

70. That's what I was looking at until I got lucky

I was the disabled one and with no caregiver. Having lived all over the country, I knew the last place I wanted to live was some uncaring state where everybody slopped over with Christian sugar but voted in things like "right to work(starve)" laws and refused to fund services for poor and/or disabled folks. They're not all in the south, either.

NM was a decent compromise, south enough to be warm, high enough in altitude not to be Phoenix, and while there are fewer services here than in Boston, it's basically a state that cares but is too poor to do what it wants to. I can take that. No bugs was an unanticipated premium.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #13)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:02 PM

18. And if one leaves

(and I may leave in a few years), don't lord it over those of us who are still here.

That's easy enough, heh?

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:10 PM

26. I won't lord it over anyone if I don't get chastized for getting out when

I can for the good of my loved ones.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:59 PM

44. I live here and am going to let you have it (the Texas Problem)

 

I will be 70 in a few months and an just flat worn out and all I have to show for it is it is getting worse. I am very tired of watching all the National money going to other states.

Hell, the right wingers have almost destroyed me because of their damned anger. Quite frankly, I can not afford the losses in financial losses that I have suffered because of the hate.

Until we get some real backing and the Democrats pick just one district to to support then maybe I will go back to work. I resigned as Party Chairman because I simply can not afford it anymore.

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Response to Jim Beard (Reply #44)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:21 PM

68. Texas is used as an ATM for the Democratic Party

Things are changing but not fast enough

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #68)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:58 PM

76. Absolutely.

nt

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #68)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:18 PM

107. And by the Republicans and by the Libertarians

And here in Houston I have quite a few Green friends and guess what most of them did? Donate to Jill Stein.

We got money. Politicians wanna ask us for it. I don't have a problem with that.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:44 PM

61. I live in Florida.

This state doesn't want to get fixed. Too much to lose if they play by the rules. If it changes, it will be from outside pressure.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:47 PM

4. I still live in the South, but I recognize the problems with racism/bigotry/hatred and ignorance.

What southerners call patriotism, state rights, equal schools, etc., is screwed up too. Not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere, but there is a special breed of white wing southerners. What is really laughable, they are proud of it and call it "heritage."

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:48 PM

5. Then, you are part of the solution. I hope, anyway.

Surely, you are not unaware of what I wrote about?

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:51 PM

6. When I travel down South, and hear mainly blacks called "Boy" and also the N-word... I'll complain.

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Without national pressure to change, the institutionalism will remain stagnant.


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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:55 PM

11. Sincerely doubt that.

From the South, been all over the South, go back frequently, and have never heard any of that. Except in movies, of course.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #11)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:00 PM

15. I guess you're used to it. From the north, it's shocking to hear--each and every time.

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I've journied down South a couple of dozen times, and each trip is littered with those terms.



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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #15)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:10 PM

27. How funny - I hear more racism in New York than anywhere.

Whatever.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #27)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:00 PM

45. Racism is prevalent in the Northeast, it just that it runs as a verbal undercurrent, not as open.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #11)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:03 PM

19. Me, neither.

Only "boy" I have EVER heard was when my Repug neighbor referred to the president as "your boy."

And did I ever chew him out.

But, no, that is not a frequent occurrence, imo.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #19)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:10 PM

25. Let's face it

People here - perhaps many - see stereotypes on TV and assume it's still 1964 Alabama.

And when you say it isn't that way, they drag out some counter example which is supposed to damn the entire south.

To which I say, gee, let's go hang around Bensonhurst or Southie and see if we can find any bigots.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:40 PM

56. The hell

I am 50 and have not heard the word boy used to or about a black man as a pejorative since my grandfather died in the 80s.

Now we do use the word boy a lot. But not in a racial way. My wife might say 'are you boys' cooking supper tonight'. Or if I see some guys doing something unseemly I might 'look at what those boys are doing'. But their race has nothing to do with it. And I also know that if I call a black man 'boy' to his face I may well have an ass kicking coming.

Where are you being called boy. I spend time in rural Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky and mainly Florida. And it is not that I rarely hear it, I never hear it.

I occasionally hear the N word but never to our around black folks. Well, unless I hear it said by an African American. Because that is where I hear it the majority of the time.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:54 PM

7. I lived in SC for a spell - Greenville...

 

And I met some of the nicest, most polite people there.

I love the South and *most* of their culture (except the racism some wore on their sleeve, the numbers of which proportionally correspond with those types right here in NYS). But, my overall impression was that there are very nice and kind folks in the South.

You won't find me bashing "the South" as a region.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:05 PM

20. Thank you.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:41 PM

35. Did you ever talk politics with any of them

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Response to demosincebirth (Reply #35)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:54 PM

40. Bingo.

Edit: Texas resident since 1979.

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Response to demosincebirth (Reply #35)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:19 PM

51. Yes, and it was half and half...

 

The ones I hung with more were of like mind with me.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:01 PM

47. Nice on the surface

 

but they will still vote for Trump

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Response to Jim Beard (Reply #47)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:20 PM

52. Not the ones I hung with the most.

 

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:52 PM

72. my daughter lives in Greeville - what a great town

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:54 PM

8. I have been a Floridian for over sixty years.




I can understand your recoil.

But we should avoid the tendency to cast all others in the same mold. I think we
sometimes hear from a vocal minority who don't represent the the vast majority.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:05 PM

22. Oh, I know it's just a minority of DUers

Unfortunately, they are quite vocal and arrogant in spewing their superiority here.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:54 PM

9. Region hating is stupid. There are good people in all areas. It'd be better to take this up with

the person who posted last night very upset at the local mass shooting, and maybe expressing sympathy toward those impacted by it.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:54 PM

10. I lived in Texas, and I tried for the 14 years I was there to help change

the direction. When I left, we had made a little progress but the national party wouldn't support any Democrats who would run for any state office much less federal. I'm back home in Missouri now, and I'll work to change the stupid in this state too. I will criticize when criticism is needed. There is enough stupid in every state in this country, you don't have the exclusive market on it.

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Response to Loki (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:01 PM

16. Thank you for your efforts.

I think you have every right to wind up and let it rip about Tx.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:05 PM

49. I live in Texas and feel the same way. The national Democrats have abandoned us.

 

At least the republicans would target key congressional races in Democratic states. It got worse with Debbie Wassermann Schultz.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:56 PM

12. My state can beat up your state!

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:06 PM

23. LOL

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:07 PM

65. Yep...

This thread really is about that...SMH.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:05 PM

21. I hit the trifecta: lived in Florida, North Carolina, and Texas.

Currently in Arkansas. I will critize wherever it's needed.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:11 PM

28. Yep. If there was a medal, you'd have earned it. nt

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:44 PM

59. Same here

Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky and Florida. Loved them all. Good people are the majority although their politics often suck. I know lots of republicans and are friends with many. I never hear racial epithets from them. Of course if I did we would not be friends.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #59)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:45 AM

112. Same here except

I also lived in Georgia and Maryland but no Louisiana or Arkansas. Loved every visit to LA I've made though.

Born in Florida and live here now but all those other places in between. I saw a huge amount of racism when i lived in Texas during most of my school age years. But by then my mom and step-asshole were raising my brothers and I in an independent, fundamentalist baptist church and I wasn't really allowed to hang out with people not in that group. And they were some racist motherfuckers. It still boggles my mind that all his church people can't see what a piece of shit my step-asshole is. He wrote the book on public vs private face.

There's quite a bit of it here too. I regularly see a pick-up truck driving around with KKK stickers all over it. I once delivered pizza to a house one neighborhood over from my mine and when they opened up the door I could see a giant Nazi swastika flag hanging in the living room. There's confederate flags everywhere.

"The south" certainly does have a lot of work to do. It doesn't help when some folks advocate cutting off Florida or pushing for Texas to secede. (I've seen that and more here on DU) We aren't a lost cause.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #30)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:16 PM

31. Troll alert.

nt

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Response to Name removed (Reply #30)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:17 PM

32. Toothpick carving

Good hobby

Thanks MIRT

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:18 PM

33. Meta n/t

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #33)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:52 PM

39. It started here

I feel the attacks on texasmomma were over the top.

Just my opinion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141580008

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #39)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 08:20 PM

97. Thank you for the link

without it I would not have known this was simply a META thread

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #97)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 09:39 PM

103. What does META stand for?

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #103)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 10:05 PM

104. Technically its a discussion about the discussion

The term meta-discussion means a discussion whose subject is a discussion. Meta-discussion explores such issues as the style of a discussion, its participants, the setting in which the discussion occurs, and the relationship of the discussion to other discussions on the same or different topics.


In this case I used it very casually (probably used it as shorthand) to describe an OP started solely because a poster was quickly and soundly out-debated by other posters in a different thread.






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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #104)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 06:02 PM

108. Thanks for the info

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:38 PM

34. I moved to Florida from Indiana

As far as I am concerned, the problems here are no worse than the problems in Indiana. At least Florida is purple. Indiana is bright red.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:45 PM

36. Molly Ivans






Worth more than all the sanctimonious blowhards here put together.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #36)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:30 PM

54. Notice my Ann Richards comment?

It's how I feel about a lot of democrats who aren't from the south. Our arrogant friends are a hinderance to turning these states blue.

It's like arrogant Baptists trying to convert Catholics by telling them they are papists going straight to hell. Seriously, I know Catholics who would rather go to hell!

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #54)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:41 PM

57. I am Catholic

And I endorse this message!

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #54)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:42 PM

58. I loved Ann Richards, she was great, still remember her speech at the DNC convention,

only Ann could deliver those lines.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #54)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:27 PM

69. I just spend three hours training poll watchers

Texas will turn blue

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #69)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:58 PM

75. Hoping!

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:46 PM

37. Amen! Bigots, each and everyone of them

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Response to Ishoutandscream2 (Reply #37)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:54 PM

73. my view also - bigotry through and through

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:50 PM

38. I have lived in both Texas and Florida.

The people in Texas were some of the nicest people I have ever met anywhere.
Floridais a mixed bag because so many of them are from other places.
However, I do understand that when people attack those places, they are not attacking "every" Texan or "every" Foridian, they are attaching the all too often backward politics that often occur there and the ignorant politicians that get elected there and have a national influence on their lives. (School books for instance).
The easy solution is to make sure these idiots don't get elected in the first place.
They are giving y'all a bad name!

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #38)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:07 PM

80. They're nice to some people, not so nice to others.

Texas is the only place my family were literally shunned by neighbors for not being churchgoers like everyone else. The ones that didn't shun us tried to convert us over and over again, like we were their pet project. Fortunately, my daughter thinks Chick tracts are hilarious and collects them. To the neighbors' credit, I guess, they only vandalized our property once in seven years, and the damage was very minor. It could have been much worse.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:55 PM

41. I don't hate the South-I met some wonderful people when I visited there.

I hate the fact that it is so politically conservative and in election after election drags the country to the right. What can be done to change the mindset of these folks? What's wrong with them?

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:56 PM

42. I'm Texas Born and Texas Proud

Now granted I'm a military brat and I grew mostly overseas..But when my dad retired we came home to Lubbock. And I've been in Texas well over 30 years. Married a five generations Texan,moved to North Texas, raised a family and I'm happily being Nana to be a sweet baby boy.

I get more than a little hurt and angry when I read ugly remarks about how Texas should just go ahead and secede. The noise you hear in Texas is really just a bunch of loud angry idiots who have to blame somebody and there is no way in hell they're ever going own up to the boogie man under the haystack as being one of their own making. Gerrymandering is flat killing us out here. Hell my Congressional rep is all the way in Midland Texas, I live in Granbury about 45 miles outside of Fort Worth. That a helluva a lot ground y'all. A helluva lot. Sure there's an office in nearby Cleburne, but that's another 45 or so miles south. And he's NEVER there. Calling is a joke, you get an office worker and leave a message. That's it.

There are those of us truly trying to make a difference fighting constantly for the changes that will make all of Texas stronger and better. Everything takes time. Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin...All going blue, the old guard is falling, but it will take more time and more work to GOTV and make it happen. Instead of suggesting we throw in the towel and let the tumbleweeds and the crazies take us over, a little encouragement and help getting the DNC to realize we need a lifeline---We're worth more than just being a fund raising stop.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:57 PM

43. I've lived here in Wisconsin my whole life.

Mostly here in Sheboygan county, or Sheboygan itself.

I've visited other states, never had any real gripes about the people.
Including Texas.

Now yes, Wisconsin does have one of the most corrupt political parties, our state GOP.
Texas is bad too.
Michigan is awful.

But we Cheeseheads love to joke about other states, Texas being the state "God made with a hangover."
(Saw this in san Antonio.)

The comedian Gallagher put on a flannel hat with ear flaps, and called it "Michigan."

Florida Man is becoming legendary on the Internet.

And we crack jokes about what it's like here in Wisconsin.
The Packers are sacred.
We go "down by da lake and cook up some brats."
Our state bird is the mosquito.

Even Sheboygan itself has become the target of some jokes, in a cartoon kids' show, a guy has to laugh to get out of a problem, so he says, "Sheboygan!" and cracks up laughing.

So I don't bash areas or states.
I do bash politicians, or those who elect or re-elect them.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:01 PM

46. If Texas goes blue....

I wonder what the haters will say then? Probably just more hate.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #46)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:44 PM

60. Been hearing about us turning blue since probably 2004.

Now I'm hearing 2028. Not holding my breath.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:13 PM

50. You can add me to your "list"

Not sure why you need to keep a list but what ever gets you through the day. El Paso, Dallas, Garland, Chinn Chapel, San Antonio cor a total of about 25 years. Both children born in San Antonio, the oldest died in Amarillo, the surviving son still lives in San Antonio.
I do not care for the low wages or constant braggadocio that goes far beyond civic pride among other things I experienced there. The hubris in your post is a good example of some of what I dislike. You actually believe anybody cares that you are keeping a list and you can intimidate anybody here. Another Proud Texan itchin' fer a fight!

Yes, I hate Texas. Yes, I'm very happy I no longer live there. No, I don't feel superior, just relieved. You don't have to like it but then again, I never cared if you did nor do I now.


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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #50)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:50 PM

62. I didn't start the fight.

I just brought it over here in this thread.


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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #50)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:18 PM

117. Garland is must have been what messed you up on Texas LOL- Nobody moves there on purpose

 

Shit, sometimes I'll even go out of my way to avoid driving in the land of Gar

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #117)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:15 PM

118. That's how you can tell

If someone has actually been in the area. Came home from work one day and our apartment building had a a fumigation tent over it. No warnings or advanced notices. It was no big deal to the long time residents. They were used to it, happens all the time. So, now I know it's not the water.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:26 PM

53. We live in a big, beautiful country

with 50 wonderful states.

There are some of those states you couldn't pay me to live in, and some of the places I've loved living in, others would hate.

Not to mention, not every single person in any of our states is the same. For instance, not everyone in Kansas voted for Brownback, just to name one example.

However, I am willing to trash those who think they are superior because they live in a state with no winter weather to speak of.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:38 PM

55. Please add me to your list.

I believe I deserve to make your list because I have been a "Texas-hater" for many years. My beautiful hometown (Mobile, AL) was at times infested with Texans. I was an early supporter of border controls on Interstate 10 to stop the spread of Texans to our fair state.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:08 PM

63. I do my best not to hate anybody.

By "state," I'm going to assume that you mean the people who live in the south, in southern states. Is the south so monolithic that one could hate everyone there, because you're all the same????

I don't hate the south. I've never claimed that, never thought that, never felt that. If you are offering yourself up as a representation of southern-ness, though, I've certainly lost a bit of respect.

It's probably a good thing I know better than to assume you are that representation. That's one ugly rant. Is that what you've got to offer here? Hate and ugliness?

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Response to LWolf (Reply #63)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:57 PM

74. The ugly rant is only a response

to ongoing attacks here at DU.

" Is the south so monolithic that one could hate everyone there, because you're all the same????"

I believe that question would best be asked of the people who are actually doing the hating.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:13 PM

64. the south is full of right wing racist gun nut assholes

 

But so are many other states outside of the south.

I'm from California which is full of phony plastic wannabe famous assholes .

The south had many anti science idiots who reject evolution. California has many anti science assholes who oppose vaccines and believe in a bunch of other crap.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #64)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:32 PM

93. Well Bless your little heart.

Aren't you just so special.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:12 PM

66. Righteous rant, my Texas friend.

I live in trump-lovin' east Texas.

We have to hear crap from the right AND left.

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Response to cry baby (Reply #66)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:02 PM

77. No shit back, my new Texas friend. :)

nt

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:20 PM

67. There are a ton of good Democrats working to turn the south and in my case, Texas, blue

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #67)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:03 PM

79. Yes we are, still loving living and enjoying Texas, it is my home by choice.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:50 PM

71. On second thought, you know what? Add me to your damn list.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #71)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:03 PM

78. Happy to oblige.

The list isn't for me.

It's just a forum for some of you to out yourself.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:10 PM

81. It's just easier to stereotype everyone than to understand that almost everywhere is purple.

Some places are just more purple than others.

The funny thing is that there are places in Texas (and Florida and everywhere) that are significantly on the blue side of purple - the major cities and the Valley are a few. They're the key to turning TX blue in the next few elections.

It's easier to just assume that it's monolithic, though.

Sometimes, perhaps often, "we" aren't any better about pigeon-holing locations or groups of people than "they" are.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:28 PM

82. You told us the problem in Texas isn't the whites, but those ... other ... people

34. Check out our top ten most wanted.

And ask yourself if the majority of the crimes are committed by us white Texas yahoos you hate so much. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/Texas10MostWanted/fugitives.aspx http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/texas10mostwanted/
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/Texas10MostWanted/stillWanted.aspx

I'm so sick of the Texas put downs I'll probably get get alerted for linking the above, but I'm tired of fighting back without facts.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1580271

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #82)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:21 PM

89. No

And what is wrong with pointing out that dissing a state for crime because you hate the white yahoos in it, isn't very smart since the white yahoos aren't responsible for the majority of the crime? This state has varied and complex socioeconomic factors that affect the crime rate here.

"1. GODDAMMIT! LEAVE THAT FUCKING SHIT IN TEXAS, OR SOME FUCKING PLACE!

This is Washington! We're better than that!..."


"Fucking place?" Really?



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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #89)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:29 PM

92. Yes. I quoted your words. You were the first to bring race into that thread

You're the only person who claims that some DUers 'hate' whites. And you're the person still blaming non-whites for most of the crime in Texas.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #92)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:33 PM

94. So, people who hate the south

hate the black folks, too?

People who hate Texas, hate the Latinos here?

Got it.

/sarcasm

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #94)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:38 PM

96. You were also the first person to claim it was about 'hate'

I was just pointing out (in a thread about a multiple homicide) that the homicide rate was indeed lower in Washington than in Texas, and thus better. You're the one who interprets a fact like that as 'hate'.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #82)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:36 PM

95. thanks for posting and showing what this is really about

 

And molly ivins and ann richards would NOT approve.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #82)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 08:42 PM

99. Well, those other people

aren't real Texans, I suppose. Even though I see nothing on those lists that indicate any of them is a foreign national, or even a resident of another state.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:34 PM

83. Speaking of other people.....................

 

As a former county chairman of the Democratic Party, I have found it is almost impossible to get Hispanics to vote in rural. How do I know. I go through the voter sign in sheets.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:37 PM

84. I'm from New Jersey.

Raised in Georgia, educated in California, and I now live in Pennsylvania.

I'd never disparage any part of this country. Fun fact: more folks in Texas voted for Obama, than the entire population of the state of Connecticut.

But let's not let that stop us from finding humor in our regions.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #84)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:27 PM

90. Oh, I agree with the humor.

I just detest comments like this:

"1. GODDAMMIT! LEAVE THAT FUCKING SHIT IN TEXAS, OR SOME FUCKING PLACE!

This is Washington! We're better than that!..."


Some of us notice that kind of arrogance and hatred towards the south quite frequently here.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:54 PM

85. Meh

I can't handle the humidity

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:03 PM

86. I was born and raised in the TX panhandle

I left when I was in my early 20's thinking I would never come back. Three years ago I came back. I am glad I did. TX isn't some back woods hillbilly haven like a lot of people make it out to be. Sure there are some assholes here but no more than anywhere else. I have been all over this country and I can honestly say I would rather be right where I am.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:10 PM

87. I grew up in the South. I went to elementary school, junior high school, high school, college, and

yes, a BIG chunk of my adulthood in the South.

I LOATHE it.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:11 PM

88. From SC. Thanks for this thread. I feel your pain. nt

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:28 PM

91. Why do you CARE?

There's a whole political party that uses my home state as a shorthand for whatever their current moral panic is and I'm fine with that because I SURE DON'T WANT THEM TO MOVE HERE.

There are fifty states with really different landscapes, cultures and economies for a reason. If Republicans, flying roaches and subtropical humidity aren't somebodys' thing that doesn't reflect on you personally.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #91)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 10:27 PM

105. A lot of Texans seriously identify with their state.

Many of them seem to believe the most important thing about them is that they're Texans. People like that take the slightest criticism of the state very, very personally. I lived in various cities in Texas for 16 years and that always struck me as being so fucking weird.

You asked the right question: Why do they care? I was born in the state I live in now, and I like living here very much. I can't imagine freaking out when other people say they don't like it, or make fun of it, or put it down. They're not talking about ME, so what's the problem?

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Response to Mariana (Reply #105)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 06:24 PM

110. How many other states / regions do you

See getting bashed on a regular basis? The problem is it is grating. We're SUPPOSED to be the enlightened ones, not the ones engaging in a form of bigotry simply because of the location some people live.

Just because you can't imagine getting upset does not mean others agree with that position.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #110)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:14 PM

111. Believe me, I know exactly how it feels

to have one's home state put down. Plenty of Texans think very little of the states on the West Coast and the Northeast, and the inhabitants thereof, and they don't hesitate to say so. In some parts of Florida, there is frank animosity toward people from northern states. So what?

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Response to Mariana (Reply #111)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:30 PM

116. How many Texans and southerners ON THIS BOARD

put down those states?

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 08:36 PM

98. We're going to punish those red staters's once Hillary is firmly in power.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 08:45 PM

100. Speaking as a southerner, I'll just say this:

 

I'd probably heard someone use the pejorative "Nigger" maybe 20-30 times out loud in my entire life while in the south.

I managed to hear it at least half as many times in my 4 day trip to Massachusetts.

YMMV

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 08:52 PM

101. I would like to start a group for those who sympathize w/Michigan.

My gawd they're trying to kill us.

On edit: I was remiss in not mentioning this: We should all be supportive and encouraging to our like-minded friends in the south and all generally "red" areas. I mean, how much would it suck to be surrounded by teabillies? A lot. Oh and here in MI, my gawd but we are lousy with them! I won't throw stones at other regions for having a few more of the people that make MI suck.

Yet somehow our progressive friends find the strength to push on trying to turn their areas blue. Nothing but love and admiration from me to these great allies. Thank you for sticking it out and carrying on with the work we need to do.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 08:56 PM

102. Lived in Oklahoma and currently in West Virginia.

I can't wait to move back to the northeast.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:14 PM

106. ha-ha. I'm a proud Southerner from Texas. But I do kinda hate Florida.

You know, except for the Fort Walton Beach area where I vacation.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 06:17 PM

109. It takes a special brand of blind dogma to pretend that ignorance or racism is held in place by imag

It takes a special brand of blind dogma to pretend that ignorance or racism is held in place by imaginary red and blue lines on map.

Allow them their desired faith-based, magic-thinking... it's what they place their trust in, especially the ones who refer to themselves as skeptics in other faith-based aspects of life. Bless their little hearts.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:50 AM

113. Fuckin' A, TMWAH. Many thanks for the much-deserved slap-down.

And greetings from Texas.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 11:44 AM

114. Pfft. Florida doesn't hold a candle to my Pennsylvania town's heroin ODs

Take that, Sunshine State!

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:21 PM

115. Given your fine example of Southerness

do you blame people?

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:18 PM

119. I'll wait for the translation.

 

What a bizarre, incoherent OP.

You're not doing the region you are so proud of any favors, believe me.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:41 PM

120. Guess I missed something?

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:43 PM

121. Why so hostile??

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:50 PM

122. My Governor can eat his own ass...

That bigoted small minded Trump supporter can go fuck himself

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:23 PM

123. I live in Florida

But I'm from the non-crazy part, South Florida. Despite the ballot disaster, we're nothing like the rest of the backward folks in Northern Florida.

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