A 32-year-old disabled vet thought ITT Tech was his ticket out of poverty

[pstokely]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/32-old-disabled-vet-thought-154400988.html
"For-profits often say that they provide students with more flexibility. They say they offer more online programming and night and weekend classes for students with full-time jobs. Some colleges have convenient locations, like inside a mall.

But community colleges could make a similar argument, if they had the marketing budgets. In the last couple of decades, they started providing online learning as well as a host of vocational programs, all for a fraction of the price of a school like ITT.

Consider Owens Community College, Straub’s local public college. In addition to typical program offerings — such as computer science, nursing, and general arts — Owens offers vocational programs, too, like welding, plumbing, pastry making, and John Deere tech.

Halperin and other experts contend the biggest reason students choose for-profits over community colleges is a lack of information about other options. For-profits, not community colleges, have the massive marketing budgets. Their ads are ubiquitous. One Miami-based for-profit called FastTrain College used strippers as admissions representatives, according to a federal lawsuit."

[Stuart G]

1. K and R...what can be said about these whores that hasn't been said already..?

my apologies to those who work in the very oldest profession...


...........and...........thanks for posting....

[MrScorpio]

2. For profits have huge advertising budgets in relation to community colleges.

But, with the advent of many CCs going tuition free lately, I'm quite sure that this will cause the for profits to take hits on their bottom lines.

I can dig it.

[jtuck004]

3. Precisely. With the right marketing budget they could fail to get a job out of

community college as easily as they could from ITT.

But the the CC could make more money, like they do here. No more jobs, but everyone feels better.

[malaise]

4. None of this could happen if the corporate media

vetted institutions that advertise on them. The view that facts are irrelevant is a mere excuse for profit by any means.
I sometimes laugh when I see certain big pharma products advertised followed by ads from law firms to those ready to sue said companies for killing their relatives or causing grievous harm to others.

[Sunlei]

5. 10/15? years ago 'someone' in our federal gov. allowed these 'for profits' to take pell/grant money.

Allowed student loans to pay the balance not covered by the grant/scholarship money.

Now today we're trying to fix the damages with lawsuits that will never fix the thousands of veterans/people who gave their one-time education grant to scammers. The Gov. officials Federal and State who knowingly allowed this collusion should be thrown in jail.

[Nay]

10. Agreed. Collusion and/or corruption in the government (usually aided and abetted

by RWers in govt., who want to "starve the beast&quot has a huge responsibility for the growth of these fake schools.

[Sunlei]

12. decade long problems too with the tax voucher money stolen from our public schools.

RW bleeds out OUR Federal and State taxpayer money into private 'for profit' pockets.

[Liberal_in_LA]

6. Typical comments following article..bashing him for having six kids, for choosing itt.

[Sophiegirl]

7. I guess I'm going against the grain here

Fifteen years ago, I was a working single mom with two teenagers. In order to qualify for a management position at my company, I needed a degree. The local community college did not offer online classes. A for profit accredited university did. And, it wasn't easy. I believe I worked harder on those classes than I would have attending a cc class (which I have, btw).

I finished my degree despite the calculus courses I hated and a few years later achieved my goal of a management position.

So, no. I'm not going to bash these institutions. Some may be shady, but not all. You do need to investigate them before enrolling.

[Major Nikon]

8. There are good ones and bad ones

The problem is the bad ones tend to be really bad and are highly predatory. The so-called Trump "university" is an excellent example.

[Scruffy1]

11. Locally, we used to have several good ones.

I can think of three that had good reputations. Two out of the three turned into cesspools. One has been shut down with criminal charges and the other is not far behind. It seems about 15 years ago the rush for federal dough turned them in to tuition mills. The big difference here in Minnesota is that state schools have to keep up the placement numbers in order to keep a program. If you don't meet the placement numbers the program is gone along with your teaching job.

[Sunlei]

9. You did great meeting your goal for your degree. Many of the shady institutions now facing

charges specifically targeted people with a military benefit, education grant money. These students also had easy access to student loan money to pay the balance of the 'shady' institutions tuition fees. They paid first, student loan arranged-then the classes started.

I also worked full time and paid my own way through a college degree. Local community college at night for all the prerequisite classes required. Then finish a degree at Baylor College of Medicine. Admissions are fairly easy at the best colleges if one has in hand prerequisite classes with a good GPA.

I've always wished people just starting out for college would take one semester at their local community college before they commit their scholarship & student loan money to any college. A couple completed college classes also helps when one applies for any grants/scholarship assistance.

[whistler162]

13. I got my Associates from a for profit

one of the guys I worked with got his BS from ITT and worked for them until he got the job I met him at. Now he works at a local state university, the one he was kicked out of before he went to ITT.

They can be good.

Locally the colleges and universities are trying to work with the ITT students left adrift so the student can continue their education.

[awoke_in_2003]

15. I got one from DeVry

To be honest, going there opened the door for me to get into flight simulation. I have been working on sims now since 1998, and I love it. They are very complex sysytems, and it is always a challange

[classykaren]

14. Please name the one.