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doc03

(35,328 posts)
2. Dean screamed and that is all the media talked about for days and
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:10 AM
Sep 2016

probably lost him the election. The media is going to pick up on something Hillary says or does and come
hammering her on that for days, I would bet on it. Some of us on DU warned those thinking this was going to be
a Hillary landslide and we were called concern trolls. Well what say you now? The media is doing everything they can
to get him elected.

cilla4progress

(24,728 posts)
3. The sigh that fucked up the world...
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:41 AM
Sep 2016

Well, if Hillary is informed by this, and it helps her debate "performance," then at least it won't have been a complete and utter waste.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
4. hillary is not likely to make this kind of "mistake", though the media will be searching hi and low
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:53 AM
Sep 2016

mostly low.

if all else fails they'll fall back to the usual crap about women's voices or her "problems" with "trustworthiness" and "dishonesty".
and by "problem" i mean the media insists on asking again and again and again on dead issues like emails and no matter what hillary
could possibly say, they'll say she couldn't put to rest the issue. the proof, of course, is that they keep asking about it

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
5. It's funny how Reagan got away with "There you go again".
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:59 AM
Sep 2016

If Hillary were to say that, the talking blockheads would eviscerate her...

andym

(5,443 posts)
10. It's more likely that Trump will use that line
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 12:25 PM
Sep 2016

since its purpose is to show that a potential extremist was really normal after all, especially after Carter was attacking Reagan for his policy proposals.

andym

(5,443 posts)
7. It's not why Gore "lost"
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 12:04 PM
Sep 2016

He tried to run a populist campaign without the most important part, getting people excited about what he was proposing. Part of the problem was his wonkish, boring personality. American's like their Presidents larger than life, like TR, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan or even Bill Clinton.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. Nixon and both Bushes were as milquetoast as they come
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 12:12 PM
Sep 2016

The far right wing and an exceptionally ignorant electorate has transformed politics from being about issues and reason to something more akin to reality TV. You simply vote the person off the island that you least identify with.

andym

(5,443 posts)
11. Nixon and Bushes were running against very uncharismatic candidates
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 12:29 PM
Sep 2016

so then other factors come to the fore.

Humphrey was more milquetoast then Nixon. In fact, Nixon had an edginess to him.
McGovern had a lot of enthusiastic supporters, but was also bland.
Dukakis, Gore and Kerry were even more bland than Bush or his son. Dukakis and Gore may be among the most bland candidates ever.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
12. How about a Supreme Court that did not allow enough time to count the vote that Gore won.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 12:39 PM
Sep 2016

The Supreme Court surprise announced around 10PM that Florida had until midnight to count six million votes.

University of Chicago counted the votes later and Gore had won while GWB was in office.

andym

(5,443 posts)
13. That's why I put "lost" in quotation marks.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:12 PM
Sep 2016

Still it should not have been close given how well Clinton had done in the eight years prior.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
9. Nixon sweated
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 12:13 PM
Sep 2016

Lost the race, but came back later to win two terms.

Don't have him to kick around ant more.

andym

(5,443 posts)
14. Nixon had edginess.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:14 PM
Sep 2016

He was not as charismatic as Kennedy, but made a far deeper impression (not necessarily a good one), than Humphrey or McGovern.

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