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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Trump attacks Hillary for Bill's behavior, THIS is all she needs to say:
"Donald, like your first couple of wives, I too have felt the pain of a husband's infidelity. I resolved that my husband is a good man who made a mistake; and that it would be worthwhile to try and save our marriage and continue to make a life together. Ivana and Marla arrived at a different conclusion."
Then turn, smile sweetly, and watch as the sphincter-mouthed orangutan self-immolates.
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)I doubt she will mention it though because she doesn't want the news to be focused on the subject.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)I hope she shoves it straight up his flabby ass.
awake
(3,226 posts)Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)He's not going to attack her for being cheated on. He's going to attack her on what his supporters feel were her attacks/demonization of Bill's accusers.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)whatever the fuck he wants, paying little or no attention to the question that was posed to him?
Such a response would reduce him to sputtering, impotent, incoherent rage; and that's the point.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)he will never say "I don't know", he will just throw out some bullshit.
I liked the beginning were Hillary said "DONALD" like a mother would.
emulatorloo
(44,109 posts)"You mean HRC didn't kiss the woman's ass who cheated with her husband? Wow I would have showered the little homewrecker with candy and flowers! I MUST VOTE TRUMP NOW!"
emulatorloo
(44,109 posts)Mainstream Women voters are not gonna go for seeing a woman blamed for her husband's infidelity.
keithbvadu2
(36,747 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Too specific, too detailed, and too much of a "discussion" " of something that really shouldn't be discussed.
I'm also not sure how many people will sign off on the concept of Bill as "a good man who made a mistake," and I say that in the spirit of "constructive criticism intended to help Hillary win," just like it says in the DU TOS.
There's no way to win by having a discussion about Bill's alleged or real infidelities. No way whatsoever. I also would not refer to Bill making "a"...singular...mistake. She needs to shut him down, and fast, if he goes there. Engaging him will not play to the cheap seats, AKA "Trump's base."
That kind of conversation also would bring her down to Trump's level: "Donald, like your first couple of wives..." that just jumped right off the screen at me as "do not go there" talk.
If he does put it out there and she needs to respond, she could say something like "No matter what has happened in my personal life, I have transcended it, and accomplished (fill in the blanks)."
There's no way to win in having a discussion about Bill. I point no further than a remark Ms. Clinton made in this election cycle, when someone started quizzing her about him. It was something like (not an exact quote): "Oh, I'm sorry, is he running for President too?"
If he brings it up, the Trump crowd will be high-fiving and taking a victory lap, no matter how she responds, so the best response is a LIMITED one that shifts the discussion back to policy, not a justification of anything Bill did or was alleged to have done.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)to the shit-flinging, incoherent, misogynistic shitweasel we all know him to be; I've been wrong before, and probably will be again.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)That wasn't my intention.
What I was trying to say...and I am sure that it's clear I was walking on eggshells because I have no intention of losing my membership on this site as the result of discussing Bill Clinton...is that any discussion of what he did or did not do is a "no win" situation. With Trump, it would be gutter politics, and we already know he has no problem going there. Also, I'm sure he sees it as his "October surprise," his "crippling blow," and the fact of the matter is that a significant number of people...both pro and anti Clinton...have lived with the blowback from his personal life for decades. Trump's not going to "educate" anyone by going there...he will attempt to open a closed wound and pour salt into it, and I see no way possible that she can win that argument by engaging him. I do support her taking the high road. The exchange should about 30 seconds. And if he persists, he'll come off looking as good as he did with his birther exchange and "that's called business" remarks. Ms. Clinton knows how to not take the bait. Engaging him would be taking the bait.
Boomerproud
(7,951 posts)The "blowback" description is perfect. Trumpeters obviously don't care how hypocritical of him to bring it up.
ArtD48
(150 posts)anamandujano
(7,004 posts)I'm not sure she could just leave it hanging out there with no response.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,165 posts)Ivana filed for divorce after she found out about Donald's affair with Marla Maples, but technically, Trump initiated the divorce with Marla. He was already separated from her when he met Melania.
I suppose some people think Hillary should have divorced Bill and I imagine she considered it. But it's really no one else's business and if Bill has had any more affairs, they have been VERY discreat.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)In her public life she has always shown that she weighs issues carefully before committing to anything. I don't think she ever considered divorce. What was she to do, go back to her mother and leave the life she had built? She was First Lady and fully deserved to be there. There was some discussion from pundits on this, in a supportive way so they must have been Dem pundits.
I remember the Friday after the story broke. They were walking to the helicopter to take off for the weekend. He grabbed her hand to hold and she pulled it away. She knew the cameras were always on them. She did not meekly accept the situation.
Justice
(7,185 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)His handlers have warned him about some things
I don't think you'll hear any 'crooked Hillaries' either
He and they surely must know that she's as prepared for that as can be
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)whathehell
(29,065 posts)and I suspect it M get be the end of his bs on tjeatter.
Raven123
(4,813 posts)and say, "as you can see, I'm still standing."
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)lame54
(35,282 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I don't understand what he could/would actually say to her about him.
unblock
(52,185 posts)world wide wally
(21,740 posts)They are going to attack Hillary for attacking Monica Lewinsky.
So, this is the attack Hillary has to be prepared for.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Yeah. That ought to do it.
Well done.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)CincyDem
(6,347 posts)"Donald, like your first couple of wives, I too have felt the pain of a husband's infidelity. I resolved that my husband is a good man who made a mistake; and that it would be worthwhile to try and save our marriage and continue to make a life together. You and Ivana the you and Marla arrived at a different conclusion. One of the things I love about America is our willingness to recognize that each couple is allowed to approach their marriage on their own terms."
I would make these changes recognizing that just like there a lot of couple that have lived through infidelity on the Clinton path, there are likely as many (many more) who have taken the Trump route. The open targets the stones at Donald, the middle recognizes the uniqueness of every situation, and the close celebrates that the are many acceptable answers.
just my two cents...but I doubt he'll bring it up in the same room with her because he knows it will get shoved down his throat sideways.
If he keeps up the bullshit of "didn't want to bring it up because of her family", I'd love to see Chelsea step and say "Hey dude...it's not like you've got something to say I haven't been hearing for 20 years. I won't be learning anything new so don't hold back on my account".
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)tableturner
(1,680 posts)"All I have to say is that it's very ironic and hypocritical for you, of all people, to be bringing this up."
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)And that would be a splendid spectacle to watch.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)Both ivana & Marla had stated when they 1st caught wind of his cheatin' ways, they tried to save their marriages. If she responds at all about his cheating claiming they dumped him would be too much for him to ignore.
Hillary has this, she's known since the day he started running he'd eventually go there.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)to push the issue he will lose the dabate again and he knows it
Justice
(7,185 posts)Justice
(7,185 posts)be a good way to flush out the double standard - that as men they can leave their wives and children for a mistress and new wife - and yet still criticize her for not leaving Bill after public affair.