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struggle4progress

(118,274 posts)
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:12 AM Sep 2016

Oregon standoff trial: Thursday highlights -#BundyTeaParty

By The Oregonian/OregonLive
on September 30, 2016 at 5:00 AM
updated September 30, 2016 at 5:02 AM

... Franklin Graham testified .. he flew his own plane from North Carolina to Oregon in February .. concerned about the four holdouts occupying a federal wildlife sanctuary ...

Graham testified that the four were afraid, distrustful of the FBI and concerned that they would be arrested and wouldn't be allowed to return home if they surrendered. The four "got left behind," he testified, somehow missing directions to leave the refuge ...

Banta .. said he came to the refuge on two visits ... He said he didn't think his presence there was illegal.

During cross-examination, Banta conceded that he was involved in military-type training at the refuge, became part of the Bravo squad, fired a couple of rounds in target practice and did guard duty in the fire tower. He also said he brought his 12-gauge shotgun and an SKS-type rifle to the refuge, and was aware the refuge was a federal government facility ...


http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/09/oregon_standoff_trial_thursday_2.html

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Oregon standoff trial: Thursday highlights -#BundyTeaParty (Original Post) struggle4progress Sep 2016 OP
Judge inclined to dismiss firearms charge against Cox without more evidence - #BundyTeaParty struggle4progress Sep 2016 #1
Oh noes! Left behind is just the worstest gratuitous Sep 2016 #2
Good grief! dmr Sep 2016 #3
The SKS is the predecessor of the AK-47 jmowreader Sep 2016 #4

struggle4progress

(118,274 posts)
1. Judge inclined to dismiss firearms charge against Cox without more evidence - #BundyTeaParty
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:16 AM
Sep 2016

By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on September 30, 2016 at 5:00 AM
updated September 30, 2016 at 5:02 AM

U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown ... said the government must point to specific proof "beyond that she's a good conspirator.''

Brown gave prosecutors until 5 p.m. Monday to do so in writing as she considers Cox's motion for acquittal on that count ...

Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight said he doesn't regard Cox as having had a gun but someone who aided and abetted the possession of firearms at a federal facility, one of the theories for Count 2 of the indictment ...

The judge rejected all the other defendants' motions for acquittal on the conspiracy, firearms possession and theft of government property charges ...


http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/09/federal_judge_inclined_to_dism.html

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Oh noes! Left behind is just the worstest
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:30 AM
Sep 2016

Jesus, these dingbats really see themselves as the last guardians and defenders of all that is civilized and good in the world.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
3. Good grief!
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:31 PM
Sep 2016

What's a SKS rifle?

Those 4 were not left behind. They chose to stay. The idea of missing directions on how to leave is ridiculous. They could have left the same time all the others who high-tailed it out of there. Hell, they skipped out so fast they left guns, equipment and personal items behind.

I appreciate your threads s4p. Many thanks.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
4. The SKS is the predecessor of the AK-47
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:47 PM
Sep 2016

During World War II the Soviets noticed how useful the German StG 44 assault rifle (StG is the German abbreviation for "sturmgewehr," which literally means "assault rifle&quot was on the battlefield and decided to create their own. In 1945, Sergei Simonov introduced a gun known as the "self-loading carbine of the Simonov system, introduced in 1945" or SKS-45. The Ministry of Defense loved it. (Then in 1947 Mikhail Kalashnikov introduced the "automatic rifle of the Kalashnikov system, introduced in 1947" or AK-47.) Because SKS is semiauto-only (one of the biggest reasons they decided to get rid of it) and it was made so long ago, after the fall of communism the countries that had these in their warehouses, buried in huge vats of cosmoline just in case, discovered a new source of hard currency - selling off their stockpiles to American gun nuts. You can usually buy these for well under $100 - the least expensive military rifle on the market - and they're a lot of fun to shoot.

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