Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

imanamerican63

(13,777 posts)
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:38 PM Oct 2016

So Trump says he is a family man?

I can't find the clip, but at the end of debate last! He went kiss his daughter, Tiffany and she blew him off and would not let kiss her! Maybe someone can find and post on DU? She is the smart one, I guess?

21 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. There are two angles on that shot
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:42 PM
Oct 2016

I saw the one you are talking about on Twitter it was quickly followed up by another angle showing that Trump was reaching out to her husband, to whom they both turn and look.

I'll dig them both up if needed, but this is like one still photo going around of Bill Clinton "yelling at Ken Bone" when the video shows he was enthusiastically pointing because he wanted to shake his hand.

imanamerican63

(13,777 posts)
4. Thanks!
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:45 PM
Oct 2016

Someone had it on facebook and I did not know that! But it is still creepy and funny at the same time!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Okay geez
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:54 PM
Oct 2016

It's some guy.

He points at him, goes to shake his hand, and she turns and smiles at the guy.

Heres the one angle.

https://m.
&feature=youtu.be

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
7. So he blew off his daughter to shake someone's hand? That's even worse
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:48 PM
Oct 2016

optics than if Tiffany was ducking him.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. No, he was sticking out his hand for a shake when she walks in
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:56 PM
Oct 2016

Watch his right hand:

https://m.
&feature=youtu.be

He points and goes to shake someone's hand as she approaches. That's why she turns and smiles at whoever it is.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
15. A good father would have immediately switched his focus to his daughter and then
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:05 AM
Oct 2016

resumed the handshake later. Instead, this fiasco occurred:

Tiffany Trump and her father both appeared to duck one another's kisses after Sunday night's debate

Donald was the first to turn away as his daughter went to kiss him, and instead shook the hand of Tiffany's boyfriend Ross Mechanic

Tiffany then ducked when her father went to kiss her cheek, and instead rubbed his arm and patted him on the shoulder

'You did a good job,' Tiffany appears to tell her father
Tiffany was not allowed to sit in the family box during the debate, and was instead put with her sisters-in-law Vanessa and Lara Trump

She also sat just a few seats away from three of the women accusing Bill Clinton of sexual assault, who her father wanted to sit in the family box

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3830944/amp/Awkward-family-photos-Tiffany-Donald-duck-s-kisses-debate-Trump-instead-goes-shake-hand-daughter-s-boyfriend.html


Tiffany felt rejected and in turn rejected him back.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. Then Univision is lying and the Daily Mail isn't
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:08 AM
Oct 2016

Watch the slo-mo, he is already going for that hand when she comes walking past, so she turns and smiles at the guy whose hand he is shaking:

http://www.univision.com/univision-news/look-closely-tiffany-trump-did-not-dodge-a-kiss-from-her-dad-it-was-an-optical-illusion-video

Post-debate video captured an awkward greeting between Donald Trump and his daughter Tiffany, who comes from Donald’s relationship to his second wife, Marla Maples. In the video, it appears Tiffany refused to kiss her dad. But that’s not true.

Look at the other camera angle there.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
19. Did you see it from the angle posted in the Univision article?
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:39 AM
Oct 2016

http://www.univision.com/univision-news/look-closely-tiffany-trump-did-not-dodge-a-kiss-from-her-dad-it-was-an-optical-illusion-video

It's an embedded flash video, so I don't know how to get the video to embed here.

Univision is not what I would call "pro Trump".
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. I will get the other video
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:52 PM
Oct 2016

Watch his head. He's looking at someone to his right, not her. She then looks at the same person, as he shakes the hand of the person just offscreen.

https://m.

&feature=youtu.be

She's smiling at that person as she comes past.

But now I gotta dig up the other one, so hang on a few...

Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
21. And notice that Tiffany wasn't sitting with Melania and the other kids - Ivanka, Eric, and Don Jr
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:38 AM
Oct 2016

At least I didn't see her there. I thought she wasn't at the debate. Maybe they never showed a wide camera angle of the family box.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»So Trump says he is a fam...