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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:23 AM Oct 2016

This country is moving leftward

Hillary as Prez with Bernie up high in a position within the new Democratically controlled Senate.

SCOTUS and any number of issues.

We've got to get the House folks...wouldn't that be something?


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This country is moving leftward (Original Post) SHRED Oct 2016 OP
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #1
Change the filibuster rules to make it more difficult world wide wally Oct 2016 #3
ACA absolutely made health care more affordable Cicada Oct 2016 #5
Shhhh! What are you insinuating? Helen Borg Oct 2016 #6
Health care is now more affordable lovemydog Oct 2016 #9
hi SHRED, I K&R your positive thought! Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #2
I sure hope so SHRED. lovemydog Oct 2016 #4
Meanwhile the Beltway still clings to the "This is a Center-Right Country" myth.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #7
This country is already leftward and we would see it in Congress but for Stevepol Oct 2016 #8

Response to SHRED (Original post)

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
5. ACA absolutely made health care more affordable
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:50 AM
Oct 2016

Before ACA a person making $25000 per year had to pay 100% of health insurance cost. After they pay maybe 20% of the cost. The percentage of us without insurance got cut in half as a result. Millions through medicaid expansion pay zero, which is highly affordable. Before those millions had to pay 100% of the cost.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
9. Health care is now more affordable
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 05:04 AM
Oct 2016

for the millions more are ensured who were previously uninsurable (with pre-existing conditions) or couldn't afford health insurance. No one can be bankrupted if they get sick. That's huge progress, imo.

I too want to drive the costs down for the middle class. I too think we need to to get the corporations & the profit motive out of health care. I hope some day we have an electorate that will demand this in no uncertain terms.

Until that time though, I believe in improving the ACA rather than scrapping it.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
2. hi SHRED, I K&R your positive thought!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:27 AM
Oct 2016



Just hoping that if we get power back, that they truly make things easier on the poor and working poor.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
4. I sure hope so SHRED.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:02 AM
Oct 2016

I'd love to get the Senate and House. And retain it at the midterms. We could really make a lot of progress.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
7. Meanwhile the Beltway still clings to the "This is a Center-Right Country" myth....
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 04:30 AM
Oct 2016

There's also a myth that Liberals become Conservative when they "grow up". The old "Hippies became Yuppies" idiocy prevalent only in movies in the 80s.

There's another myth that Old Conservatives become "Leftist" on Social Security. (Which the Beltway believes can be cured if they eliminate Social Security."

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
8. This country is already leftward and we would see it in Congress but for
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 04:50 AM
Oct 2016

the suppression of votes by every method imaginable: voter ID requirements, reduction in the number of voting sites or the times for voting, large scale gerrymandering, falsifying or altering records of party affiliation, etc, etc., etc.

And as if that's not enough, the voting machines are manufactured and programmed through the oversight and technical control of far right companies which can easily rig or alter the results by whatever percentage they deem necessary. And nothing can be done about it because to even investigate the machines before or after the vote is impossible because of the "proprietary rights" of corporations and companies. In other words there's almost no provision made for verifying the vote, so that even when the results are clearly statistically impossible, nothing is done or in most states can even be done to put things right.

GA, TX and some other red states would already be blue I believe but for this war being waged to make sure the election results are what the right wingers want them to be.

Maybe Trump's obvious unfitness for office and some help coming from the judiciaries in various states will begin to change some of the roadblocks to fair voting. We can pray anyway. Unfortunately, right now, that's about all the average voter can do.

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