Fascinating comment from my VERY perceptive husband, about Andrea Mitchell...

[calimary]

I just thought I'd share this.

My guy is a real feminist. A man of great quality, powerful intellect, and keen discernment.

He tossed off a random observation the other day about Andrea Mitchell, that might well explain the raging and very flagrant Hillary hatred. He said "Alan Greenspan must have said something, at one point, about how he thought Hillary Clinton was hot." He just now added - "or maybe he turned to Andrea and gestured toward Hillary and said 'Why don't you try your hair THAT way?'"

And my mind exploded!!! OMG!!! I bet he's RIGHT! (Again!!!)

And just now, at the top of the hour after Andrea's -

Hallie Jackson (host): "This is a moment of triumph for all of us (meaning women)."

Andrea: "not all of us."

Hallie: "well, most of us."

I tell ya, the more I think about this, the more I'm convinced my guy NAILED it. Sometimes he has a very keen instinct about people...

[calimary]

1. And he just now quipped...

"...hmmmm... Andrea's pissed off..."

I swear! I bet that's IT!

And what could piss her off more than to see her "nemesis", who she may suspect her husband has a crush on, go all the way to the top and win the Presidency? GOD she'd be a shriveled little mess over that one...

[misterhighwasted]

2. I agree. You can see the color of Andrea's skin turn pea soup green at the mention of Hillary's name

There is something personal beneath her sickness.

Hubby's on the right track with this one.

[intrepidity]

3. I could see that n/t

[Greybnk48]

4. Hubby might be right. But because of her husband she travels

socially with a heavily, if not exclusively, Repub crowd. It wouldn't do her good to sidle up to the left. It could be awkward at parties. Now she'll get "atta girls" from her winger cronies.

[calimary]

14. Oh, I'm CERTAIN both Mr. & Mrs. Greenspan travel in such circles.

I would not doubt that's exactly their social scene. Power people. Movers and shakers. Predominantly GOPers and conservatives and financial tycoon-types, and their wives (and probably also girlfriends/mistresses).

My husband also just now quipped, while strolling by our TV (which was tuned to CNN): "calling Trump supporters 'psychopaths' does not qualify as name-calling"!

I LUV-LUV-LUV my guy! He's always thought-provoking!

[Wilms]

5. That's gotta be it!

HRC approval ratings are through the roof. WTF is Andrea Greenspan's problem?

[Orrex]

6. Would have been interesting to hear a male DUer post such an observation here

[tapermaker]

8. they would be torn assunder thats for sure

How come you assume its a cat fight rather than differing governing policies. you sexist jerk!!!!!

[Iggo]

12. And rightly. (n/t)

[pintobean]

9. That was my first thought, too.

Nothing like playing into stereotypes.

[marybourg]

26. And mine. nt

[demmiblue]

7. Lol... seriously?

[calimary]

11. Yeah. He just volunteered that observation.

My husband's been very astute in the past, regarding what makes people tick, and what might be some underlying motivation. Way more often than not, he's been right.

I just find it most thought-provoking, and wanted to share it.

We've been at it for more than 40 years. I've learned to trust his instincts.

[Iggo]

10. It can't be that she's just an asshole?

It's gotta be that she's jealous and trying to please her man?

Ugh.

[Achilleaze]

13. Meeeowwww ! (R)

[calimary]

18. Hell, in this day and age, it's kind of sad to think that this could be little more than

cat-fight stuff.

One would think that, by NOW, for Pete's sake, most of us would have evolved out of that, or at least tried to.

But shit, I'm sorry - the more I think about it, the more I think my guy pegged it head-on. It would not surprise me at all. And Greenspan himself may not even have been aware of his wife's reaction when he tossed out some random quip of his own that was flattering about Hillary.

I used to regard Andrea Mitchell as a very good, strong, solid, and objective reporter. Admired her for her work and her drive and how high her efforts enabled her to soar, to such a level of prominence in her career. Seriously! I have my female news heroines (like Cassie Mackin, Pauline Frederick, and Barbara Walters back in the day, and Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, and Katy Tur, now). But with the rise of Hillary, I have been struck by Andrea Mitchell's very thinly-veiled negative bias.

At first, I thought it was just me, being frustrated and terribly hypersensitive about the consistent and thoroughly undeserved negativity toward Hillary. But it was unavoidable. I couldn't ignore it. Even while I doubted it and thought it was just me jumping to the wrong conclusions. I swear - it ROUTINELY seemed as though Mitchell could not find a positive thing to say about Hillary if her very life depended on it! Even on the last night of the Dem convention, when it was a night of 100% sheer flat-out triumph for Hillary Clinton, ol' Andrea STILL couldn't quite get there. She was unable to report on the huge and enthusiastic crowds there for Hillary without making a snide little comparison to how big/much bigger Bernie Sanders' crowds were. I tried to be objective in my assessment and found that it was no longer possible, with what I was watching, and noticing. It just got way too obvious after awhile, because I started keeping track more closely. And finally, after long and careful observation, I couldn't deny what conclusions that kept hitting me in the face. And I finally became SERIOUSLY PISSED OFF about it!!!

[jaysunb]

15. I agree with him

I once said Mrs. Clinton was the " total package " in terms of looks and smarts, and, boy oh boy...did I get a surprise.

[lpbk2713]

16. "So Andrea ... how come you never wear pantsuits?"

[cyberswede]

17. Ugh. Can't she just dislike her for the million regular reasons people dislike each other?

Rather than petty sexist stereotypical reasons?

[LisaM]

20. Or he might have praised Hillary's intelligence over Andrea Mitchell's....

I think that would bother her as much as being twitted about their relative looks - if he somehow implied that Hillary was smarter.

There is something a little unhinged about Mitchell's reporting on Hillary, I agree with that!

[DK504]

21. Hack-ism

I thought it was because she is a hack. She has been spiraling the drain for a decade, how she has a job is disgusting.

[wishstar]

22. More likely both Greenspans don't like how Hillary criticized him when she was Sec of State

Hillary Clinton criticizes former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan's oversight:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/25/AR2010022504958.htm


"Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that "outrageous" advice from former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan helped create record U.S. budget deficits that put national security at risk.

Appearing before Congress to defend the State Department's $52.8 billion budget request for 2011, Clinton said the country's massive foreign debt had sapped U.S. strength around the world.

"It breaks my heart that 10 years ago we had a balanced budget, that we were on the way of paying down the debt of the United States of America," Clinton said. "I served on the budget committee in the Senate, and I remember, as vividly as if it were yesterday, when we had a hearing in which Alan Greenspan came and justified increasing spending and cutting taxes, saying that we didn't really need to pay down the debt -- outrageous in my view."

[calimary]

24. AHA! Well, that could be it, as well.

There's got to be some very deep-seated personal reason why she simply cannot give Hillary the benefit of the doubt - EVER. NOT EVER! By now, it's just too glaring.

And yeah, if she can't be objective, then she should be taken off the air, or reassigned to cover something else outside of Presidential politics. Where her bias can't be brought into things.

[wishstar]

27. At Hillary's tarmac press conference last month, Andrea had epic fail trying to upstage Hillary

All the other reporters stayed behind cameras except Andrea had to walk right in front of camera blocking Hillary and then she walked up near Hillary with her own microphone. But her sound was apparently not turned on, so what she said couldn't be heard and Hillary practically ignored her completely- it was great!

[elmac]

23. Before Andrea really, really embarrasses herself

she needs to quit and get a job at fox, she would be right at home there. I'm thinking the only communications those two have with each other are occasional grunts or snarky remarks from far, opposite ends of the dinner table.

[Martin Eden]

25. More likely she's a rotten One Percenter like her husband

It's not personal; it's the politics of avarice.

[Skittles]

28. you don't find that a bit.....sexist?

that if there is any animosity, it must regard their LOOKS?

[calimary]

43. Oh of course I find sexism in it! Guilty as charged.

It is a frustrating thing, too, Skittles. Frustrating as much about the externals as I am with how I respond to them!

And I've been on the receiving end too. Oy. When I think back on my career, the coworkers and one-time friends with whom I had the most difficult time, invariably, were other women. Somebody was always either gunning for my job, or gunning for me, personally and specifically (so in the end, they could take my job). And it was, without fail, another woman. And the opposition had teeth, knives, tactical experience, and in one case, a nice tight short skirt, four-inch stilettos and the face of a goddess. I started getting really frustrated. I'd keep thinking - "WHY is it always another woman in the office who's trying to make my life difficult or play all kinds of political games and psy-ops shit? For Pete's sake, we're all pretty new here. We're all carving out new territory here! Isn't there room for everybody? Aren't we women all supposed to be on the same team? Aren't we all supposed to look out for each other? And it was not so."

And it's helped leave me jaded, for sure! I think I can understand it and know my way around inside it because I've looked at it from within its crosshairs.

[Skittles]

46. um

I was referring to your husband, assuming animosity between two highly accomplished women MUST be jealousy over a man or cattiness over looks

[calimary]

47. Well, I still meant what I said. I did indeed go off that way, myself, also.

It was an observation he made. Sometimes he's just really perceptive. It suddenly explained a few things to me that hadn't occurred to me.

And it could be a guy thing, too. I remember one job in which I had a friend morph into a very vicious and calculating enemy. Male colleagues of both of us were lapping it up. Every last one of 'em was caught gushing about the cat fights they heard about between the two of us.

Human foibles (not the least of which are MINE!) ...

[bmstee01]

29. It could

Have something to do with Greenspans relationship with the Clintons in general?

[Warpy]

30. Sounds like an astute observation

Catty jealousy over another woman who could be accused of riding her husband's coattails to the top doesn't explain it.

(No, don't bother to flame, I know Clinton's background and her hard work quite well, thank you, and I didn't do the accusing)

A simple "she looks nice" would have done it, I think.

[apcalc]

31. Is Andrea just shallow enough...

To be concerned about that kind of remark?

Yikes....

[mountain grammy]

32. Ha, good

the other day she was babbling and my husband was watching and he said, "she makes no sense."
I said, do you know who she's married to? He said, no. I said, Alan Greenspan.
He burst out laughing and said he didn't know that but it sure explains a lot. So, yeah, there's a connection there.

[Cha]

33. Something sure put a bug up andrea's ass about Hillary and

she doesn't mind displaying her jealousy for all the world to see.

Sounds logical from your husband, calimary!

[Angry Dragon]

34. Andrea seems to have the soul of Ann Coulter

[lapucelle]

35. Hillary pissed off Sally Quinn and her Washingtonian social set (including Mrs. Greenspan)

early in her tenure as first lady when she decided to focus on policy rather than on fitting in with the tony crowd.

I love the MSNBC promo that shows Andrea fawningly chasing Madame Secretary, trying to get her question answered.

"That's what I love about you, Andrea. You're indefatigable."

Is that Hillary's code for insufferably pompous?

[kwassa]

36. I think Mitchell is suffering from Maureen Dowd syndrome.

"Nobody is paying enough attention to ME. I'M the important one in this story, not her!"

[Cheviteau]

37. No Surprise Here.

Well, yes, maybe somewhat surprised that it has taken this long for DU's to see this crone for what she is. Her husband did untold harm to our country and she knows it. AND she knows that Hillary knows it.

[bucolic_frolic]

38. Greenspan sure sandbagged Al Gore with those 2000 rate increases

that slowed the economy

Notice how Janet Yellen is not making the same mistake?

Greenspan was a closet free marketer, Chicago School probably
and Ayn Rand devotee

I always thought him a stooge

[Dream Girl]

39. I really doubt it. I do think it's personal but nothing to do with husband..that's just silly nt

[Hekate]

41. Whatever the case, it's real personal for Andrea. She comes off as spiteful and petty.

I wish she would retire to spend more time with Alan.

[liberalla]

44. VERY spiteful and petty... but i can understand why she wouldn't retire -

she might have to spend more time with alan... i'd cling to my job as long as possible, too.

[JoePhilly]

45. I agree with you ...

... there is a history that builds up ... between the elected ... and the reporters.

Andrea ... clearly hates Bill and Hillary. She tries to hide it, but you can see it.

[Brickbat]

42. That doesn't sound feminist at all to me, actually.

Or fascinating, for that matter.

[LeftyMom]

48. I just had to check my calendar to see what decade this is.