Sometimes, you just gotta say, "Fuck it."

[MrScorpio]

Bad shit is going to happen, thanks to Cheeto Jeezus, his Merry Band of Miscreants, The Zombie Eyed Granny Starver, Yertle The Turtle and that House of Horrors known as The United States Congress.

We're all fucked and that's the way it's going to be. We can fight it, I'm saying never give up, but America has been fooled by a orange tinted con man, his Hatch Act violating fanboys, a feckless media, along with the voter suppressing crooks, to take away our super powers. We got hit by some Kryptonite, baby and it wasn't pretty.

This is the country that we are right now, stupid, angry, racist and ignorant. It's been building up for a long time, but I suppose that we had to get it out of our system sometime. Now is as good as a time as any.

We might as well gird our loins and get ready for the ride. But it's not the end... We ain't glowing in the dark just yet.

There are some things that we may be able to stop, but other shit that we'll be unable to.

The Wingers are in charge and this is their pony to shoot in the head. Our collective pony actually. But it's about fucking time that they benefit from the experience of their own failures, even if the first thing that they're going to do is to push that blame onto scapegoats.

The unaccountable bastards.

So, until the pendulum swings back our way again, fuck it. It's good day to die.

[mopinko]

1. i've lived a good life. i have zero fucks left.

live every day like it is your last.

[GeorgeGist]

2. Well I have children and grandchildren ...

so I have many fucks to give. Thanks for your concern.

[bdamomma]

4. exactly do we really want them to grow up in this shit.

so I am not ready to say f&ck it.

[bullimiami]

11. I too have children and grandchildren. It sucks that we are all going to be stuck with this PileOS.

[Fla Dem]

16. Yes, this was never about us, the over 50 crowd, this was about our children and

our children's children and the generations to come. Nothing the RW does or doesn't do will effect me greatly personally. I am not a POC, I am not Gay, I am not a Muslim. The environment will probably be livable for the rest of my lifetime; changed for the worse, but still livable. I don't think they will be able to destroy Medicare or social security, although they will try. But they'll feel the backlash of the senior crowd if they do. I am a woman but to old to get pregnant or need an abortion. Decisions by the Supreme court could impact my life perhaps, depending on the case. But every anti-progressive action this crowd of RW Nationalists enacts will have a damning impact on the future.

It's the future I care about.

[Lifelong Protester]

19. I agree with you.

I care about the future, so I give a f***.

[deurbano]

28. Agree completely, except.... Medicare. I don't think we should discount the possibility of any

horrific development at this point, no matter how unlikely it seems. And Medicaid. Ryan wants to gut that, too, and that will affect poor people over 50. It's all so unbelievable.

[tavalon]

32. Yeah, me too.

And for the first time I'm sad I'm over 50. My activism will not last as long as it could were I a mellinial.

[greatauntoftriplets]

47. I have a total of nine great nieces and nephews.

Their ages range from nearly six to 20. One is gay. I fear for all of their futures, even though they are white and have parents with good jobs.

I see them as my hostages to fortune and I want a better world for them. Herr Drumpf will not deliver that.

[Dorian Gray]

34. I would agree with you

except I am not an asshole who doesn't give a shit about the next generation. My child and her children and their children will care about this shit.

I'm not ready for Rome to burn.

[tavalon]

40. I've met Mr. Scorpio in real life

He's as far from an asshole as you could get. He's hurting. We're all in different places in our grief. Hell, from morning to night, I swing from despair to determined rage.

He's one of us. Please don't belittle him. Every second we spend beating each other up is a minute wasted when we should be working together.

[Dorian Gray]

46. My response wasn't actually to Mr. Scorpio

It was in response to mopinko about having zero fucks to give. I have a lot of them.

I totally understand the frustration and the sense of mourning, anger, etc. And Mr. Scorpio's OP was okay in my book. It's not where I am at right now, but I understand his sentiments and feelings. I took slightly more umbrage on the one-upping of his post with "Zero fucks. Live each day as though it's the last." Because I don't think that's going to help anything or make the world a better place. (But even he/she has the right to feel that way. But if everybody lived this way, the earth would be a total shithole.)

[Arkansas Granny]

3. Yes, they are in charge of everything now and the ball is in their court.

Everything they screw up will be entirely on their heads.

[CanonRay]

6. I tell people who I know voted for him

"You own this". I don't want to hear their bullshit when they get fucked over.

[etherealtruth]

38. I am particularly enraged when tRump voters attempt to distance themselves from racism, bigotry ...

... and hate that was cornerstone of the campaign.


I cannot contain myself when I hear (or see) "I voted for change ... I am not a racist/ bigot/ misogynist/ xenophobe /hate filled scumbag ... I am not like that" to me its a little like saying in 1930s Germany 'I support Adolph Hitler .... that doesn't mean i am a antisemite/ genocide supporter"

If the change you vote for is based on racism, bigotry, misogyny, and hate ... that pretty much defines who you are.

[bdamomma]

7. this thing about their guns yup they have them

and when they realize (or do they realize) that their tRump will not do anythng or break promises to them it won't be a pretty picture. You reap what you sow.

[dixiegrrrrl]

13. Sadly, it will land on our shoulders..........n/t

[handmade34]

17. hmmm

yes, we will have to clean up the mess when they are done partying...

[Lifelong Protester]

20. Again.

[C Moon]

23. But after 8 years of the Dems sweeping up the streets following the GOP parades...

the spoiled children voters will forget what the GOP did, and put them back into office.
It's a vicious circle. This time, though, it's extra vicious.
I still can't wrap my head around how that bastard was able to become president—I'm sure it was criminal.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. The big challenge is driving it home to the right-wing voter that they're responsible.

They didn't learn from their Bush votes. How do we get the point across when Trump starts to give them the kind of government they fear the most?

[tavalon]

41. We teach, and teach and teach

but we're also going to have to learn. As loathsome as it seems right now, if we don't figure out how to reach the Trump voters, we won't and we need to. As a stepping stone, I'm going to learn about non voters, since they are now going out in droves to protest, I think there might be ripe recruiting/ teaching space there.

[calguy]

8. When I look at the prospects for Medicare and SS

I feel grateful I'm as old as I am. I'm 66 and, still working, and started getting full SS benefits last July.
Last time the R's tried to fuck with SS and Medicare, Their plan was to phase it in over time, leaving folks my age unaffected.
I work in a very red state, AR, and work with some very redneck people at an ammunition factory.
When my fellow younger workers complain that, "There won't be any SS when "I" get that old", I just tell them this.
"If your generation doesn't get off your collective asses and FIGHT for it, then you'll be right. It WON'T be here when you get old."
Usually I get a blank stare as a response, because these folks are truly braindead when it comes to politics.

My generation fought for what we wanted. We brought about great changes that are taken for granted these days. Every generation before us did the same. We weren't always perfect and not always successful, but we fought for the kind of future we wanted to see. Unless this next generation gets off their asses and fights for the future they want, what they do have now will be stripped away little by little, piece by piece.

[Lifelong Protester]

22. I wish I could rec your post!

[montana_hazeleyes]

30. Me too.

[mnhtnbb]

9. It ain't gonna' be pretty. I have sons who would be targets of the haters

because they are both gay. The oldest son--and his partner--had dinner with us the night after the election
and are both very upset. The partner's father voted for Trump and he can't bring himself to even speak
to his father. I don't blame him. I'm done with my brother and his wife--both Trump supporters--although
that's been building for some time. We've counseled them to think about leaving the country--or at least
get out of the south and head to a blue state.

Now it's a question of what to do? I have a husband with a progressive, degenerative neurological disease.
If it were just me, I'd be planning to put the house on the market after New Year's and move to Hawaii (probably Kauai).
But my husband probably has maybe two or three good years left and is that right to uproot him? And if he decides
to take the Robin Williams' exit, then what about me? Left here where I don't want to be with a house I can't sell--unless
I take a huge loss--because Trump is going to fuck the economy?

It's all fucked. Really fucked.

[dixiegrrrrl]

21. I share your dilemma.

We cannot sell and leave, because the South is the only place we can afford to live.
but Ala. is so damn Republican that Dems don't even bother to run in most areas of the state.

We both have gay family members who are on the West Coast, a safe haven in lots of ways.

There will be, inevitably, blowback on Trump. May take awhile, tho.

[PoiBoy]

31. If you have the means...

...I would respectfully submit that you should consider putting your house on the market now and moving your husband and yourself to Kauai as soon as you can. I don't know your personal situation, but I wouldn't consider your decision to move as uprooting your husband. Rather you would be giving him the opportunity to spend his last years in one of the most beautiful, peaceful and serene places on the face of the planet. Plus you'll be in a good place for yourself when the time comes.

Consider selling your house now while the economy is where it's at now, before everything crashes. Real estate and home prices in Hawaii in general are pretty high and when the crash comes it won't be getting any better.

I sincerely feel for you and your situation, and I hope you can find a path to you and your husband's happiness.

Much Aloha to you and yours...

[cwydro]

10. Amazed at the defeatism I'm seeing here.

Not just this thread, but many others.

So much whining, crying, and gnashing of teeth.

Geez, pull on your big boy and girl britches people!

[jberryhill]

33. After the last week or so, I'm starting to feel energized

IMHO, a lot of Trump voters did not know what they were getting, and they are not going to be happy when they find out.

I do worry about the security of this country. But, knock wood we get lucky on that, and I think that the same folks who propped him up are going to be the ones to take him down.

[tavalon]

42. Everyone will with time. I have absolute faith in long time DUers

It's only been 10 days. Sure we need to get up to speed quickly, but a little compassion please. It makes no sense to beat up on one another. We have a common enemy and it isn't us.

[phleshdef]

12. My only hope is that Trump and the GOP successfully go just "too far" enough...

...to create a backlash wave in 2018 and 2020. Once people start feeling how fucked their lives are because of what these deplorable fucks have in store for us all, maybe, just maybe they will wake the hell up.

[stolnepounder]

14. Read an interesting article yesterday.

(Can't remember where or I would post the link.) But it basically said that the GOP is starting to panic. They were the solid in their opposition to anything Obama wanted, so it was easy to just vote NO on everything. Now, all of a sudden, they are in charge and they don't have a single policy they can agree on. Intraparty squabbling leads to fratricide and then you toss a Trump card into the mix and we have chaos.

And did you see that the Yammering Yam had his first chat with the British PM and told her 'Hey, of you ever decide to swing by the US, give me a call"? (Or words to that effect.)

How do destroy your world-wide reputation and respect in just one week. And you haven't even taken the Oath of Office yet.

[MrScorpio]

15. Bingo!

[dixiegrrrrl]

25. A congenital liar taking an oath.....

Trump's own lawyers reported, during the primaries, that they have learned never to meet with him unless in a group, cause he lies so much they have to have witnesses to the agreements.

[Fast Walker 52]

18. go check out the WaPo main page today, they are reaming Trump, left and right

interesting times

This piece is good:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-fake-news-presidency/2016/11/18/72cc7b14-ad96-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.9c4dfd8e7b46

[ramapo]

36. Support the Washington Post

I'm going to sign up for a digital subscription and extend my NY Times subscription to daily home delivery

[Lifelong Protester]

24. He has no mandate.

Keep remembering that.

[PJMcK]

29. But he has both Houses and soon the Supreme Court

While I agree with you, Lifelong Protester, Donald Trump's administration will have more support in our Federal Government than President Obama ever did. In fact, even more than Ronald Reagan had. Mr. Trump won't need a mandate since he won't have a divided government.

It's infuriating as we are finding each day that Hillary Clinton got far more votes nationally than Mr. Trump. But the Republicans will control all three branches of our government. This will give them the opportunities to implement so many of their evil ideas. And it's also obvious that they will pack all of the Federal Courts with conservative jurists.

We got schlonged.

[ramapo]

37. He only gets want Democrats will support for the Supreme Court

If they show any spine....which is always questionable

[tavalon]

43. He didn't even win

If we had put the Electoral College abolishment on our to do list a decade ago, none of this would be happening.

He didn't win.

[Scurrilous]

26. I read somewhere that good and evil are eternally cyclical.

Bring on the Trumpcycle!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. We've been time-warped back to 1955.

Angry, stupid and racist once again. Start the civil rights movement, the women's movement, gay rights, environmental protection, all that stuff we accomplished in the last 60 years or so - gotta begin it all over from scratch. I'm old; I saw what it used to be like. I was a kid then but I remember a family trip to the south and seeing segregated bathrooms and drinking fountains. And then there was MLK and his assassination and the murders of the civil rights workers and the church bombing that killed the little girls, and the Little Rock nine and George Wallace and Orval Faubus. I remember when employers advertised separately in want ads for men's and women's jobs (the women's jobs were secretaries and sales clerks), and if you were turned down for a job or sexually harassed at work you had no recourse at all. I remember when abortions were illegal everywhere, and gay people were afraid people would find out they were gay and they'd lose their jobs, or worse. And here we are again.

[ramapo]

35. Don't want to die with Trump as president

That'd be a terrible time to go

[Hekate]

39. I am ashamed to admit I am exhausted. There is so much to do. I have 2 grandchildren to do it for.

I don't know where to begin, Mr Scorpio. Rounding people up? "And then they came for me." The Electoral College? An appendix (so to speak) of the US Constitution that has supperated, become toxic, burst, and may kill us this time around.

Where to begin? How? I will help, but all I want to do is weep inside.

Thank you for being one of those who will always speak out.

[tavalon]

44. I might well need to bring my posts about activism over to General Discussion as I'm not getting

a lot of exposure over at Activism Headquarters. None of us can do it all. We need to figure out what needs to be done and then pick our affinity groups. For instance, I'm a nurse so I will likely want to join a medic group to help with protests. I love highway blogging so that's likely to be another avenue I chose.

I'm tired too, but we are the ablative shield for the next generations. And yes, the ablative shield eventually burns away but it serves a good and noble purpose. I am more than willing to be that for my children and for yours.

The big picture is too complicated. We need to break it down. And when you feel like crying, cry. It's okay. We are facing something that few of us ever thought we would actually experience and of course, it's terrifying.

But also, take care of yourself. You can only fight if you are strong.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

45. We might as well sit back and watch the GOP struggle.

As long as we don't get vaporized in a nuclear blast or killed in other ways, it might be amusing in some ways.

Economic struggles don't frighten me much because I'm near the bottom already.