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Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 04:09 PM Nov 2016

Patton Oswalt's chilling Facebook Rant

https://www.facebook.com/pattonoswalt/
Posted in it's entirety as it's just a rant on his FB page.

This is a long entry, sorry.

It's also WAY more emotional than factual, so feel free to shoot holes all through it. But be aware of how cognizant I was of its whimsical framework when I started writing.

So, sixteen days into the reality of Donald Trump being our President-elect, and I'm reading New Yorker and Jacobin and Slate and NY Times articles, trying to make sense of just what the fuck happened, and how the fuck do we go forward. The Democratic Party is in shards on the floor right now. I think we're going to have eight years of Trump and his clean-shaven looters scraping out the carcass of the country before fucking off and blaming it on progressives and lesbians and PC and rap music.

There's been a VERY disturbing spike, in my Twitter mentions and Facebook inbox and Facebook mentions from pro-Trump people. The spike itself isn't disturbing. I was regularly dinged by people on the other side of the cultural playground. I always figured, live and let live.

The disturbing part is how many of these people (when I check their Twitter or Facebook profiles) fancy themselves comedians. And the ones who insist they're comedians, that THEY'RE funny, all send messages which are the same variation of, "Your career is OVER. No one wants to hear YOUR kind of comedy anymore. You or ANY of your friends."

Over and over and over.

Fuck you, funnyman. It's OUR turn now.

So many alt-righters (or just people on the right) are failed or frustrated comedians. Just as so many far, far left wingers are. Comedy is too PC! It's not PC enough! It's racist! It shames white men! IT DOESN'T FIT TO MY STANDARDS, SO THEREFORE I MUST DESTROY IT!

Being funny isn't something everyone is born with, and even the ones born with it have to work and evolve and have humility while they do so. For the untalented but still entitled, there's a gut full of envy to carry around when they see other people getting laughs where they can't.

And then I flashed back to an essay I read by Clive James about the doomed polymath Egon Friedell, who committed suicide in Vienna the day of the Nazi Anchluss. Two SA men came to his apartment to arrest him. All over the city, Jews were being beaten in the street, businesses burned and looted. Egon was one of the leading lights in Viennese culture -- historian, philosopher, cabaret performer. Think of an Austrian Greg Proops. A Viennese Stephen Fry.

Egon threw himself from his window as the SA men battered down his door, screaming, "Watch out! Get out of the way!" to the pedestrians as he plummeted.

I think -- I'm guessing, I know -- that Egon sensed something even MORE sinister behind the Nazi uprising. Something fueled not by nationalism or racial pride but by bog-standard showbiz envy.

I'm going to let Clive James take over here -- he writes so much better and clearer than I ever will:

"Horrific evidence suggest that the Austrian Nazis, when their armbands were still in their pockets, put the café talk high on their long list of Jewish intellectual pursuits to be trampled out of existence when the great day came. The future firebrands and executioners had been listening in for years, probably inflamed as much by sincere disapproval as by thick-witted jealousy. After a single orgiastic day of violence in March 1938 there was no-one left who had anything to say worth hearing. Hugo Sperber, already worn out from too many years living on thin pickings, was thrown to the ground and kicked until he fell silent for good. Fritz Grunbaum, one of the stars of the "Simplicissimus" cabaret, was arrested within hours of the takeover, shipped to Dachau, and beaten to death. Whether in Austria or Germany, it has never been the fault of the Jews that they were so slow to realize the catch of the assimilationist ideal: the more indispensable to culture they became, the more they were resented. Hitler needed no telling that there were a lot of brilliant Jews from whom German-speaking culture had gained lustre. That was what he was afraid of: of a bacillus being called clever, and the phosphorescence of decay being hailed as illumination. For him, as for every racial hygienist, the whole thing was a medical problem, and the last thing he was likely to contemplate was that the medical problem might lie within himself. He didn't know he was sick. He thought he was well. Convinced racists think they are healthy: their conscience can't be appealed to, they have no better self that might repudiate the lesser one. And they bend all the powers of human reason to the unreasonable, without reservation. For the Jewish intelligentsia, cultivated to the fingertips, it was very hard to grasp the irrationality they were dealing with -- the irrationality counting down the hours until it could deal with them. Even in Auschwitz, some of the enslaved musicians must have thought that Schubert's writing for strings would melt Dr. Mengele's heart, as it had always melted theirs. And it did melt his heart. It just didn't change his mind. Similarly, there were probably crytpo-Nazi kibitzers who laughed at the running commentary of Hugo Sperber as he played cards. But that was exactly why they wanted him dead. They wanted THEIR jokes to be the funny ones, and they got their wish."

You catch that part about Hugo Sperber, holding an audience in the cafe?

(Listening in to Hugo Sperber's running commentary in the café while he played cards...flash forward 68 years...reading comedians Live Tweeting the debates. Chuckling, but full of envy at the likes and RTs)

All over Vienna during the Anchluss there's seemingly mindless, unorganized looting and attacks -- yet two SA men are SPECIFICALLY sent to Egon Friedell's apartment? Who sanctioned that? Someone gave specific orders. An envious, frustrated someone, I'm guessing. Someone who sat in the audience at one of his shows, entertained but resentful of the laughter surrounding them, in the wormy, jealous darkness.

I am terrified for what may or may not happen Saturday, January 21st.

Be safe, everyone.

Take care, comedians.
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shraby

(21,946 posts)
1. Never apologize for a long entry. If they are worth reading, they are worth reading long or short.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 04:21 PM
Nov 2016

This one was worth reading from start to finish even though it was a chilling read.

hlthe2b

(102,127 posts)
2. I share a lot of his alarm & I don't think this mere hyperbole, but I'm even more concerned for him
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 04:24 PM
Nov 2016

--given he lost his wife unexpectedly and quite recently. I surely hope his circle of friends and family are sticking close by him.


Chilling, indeed...!

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
3. I think comedy and mocking humor is one of the left's most effective weapons.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 04:44 PM
Nov 2016

Try dueling with RW trolls on Yahoo or some other safe anonymous portal.

It's really fun!

... and they have nothing - I mean nothing just vapid hatred and dull attempts at poking "libtard's which can, ironically, be used to launch into mocking discussion of their own mental limitations.

Go check out the comments on Amazon relating to Trump's garish Christmas ornament he's hawking for like 180 dollars. Some of the comments by average everyday leftists are comedy gold, while the RW retorts are pathetic and inept.

After all, we're going to need a sense of humor to make it through the next 4 years.

Who's even a mildly funny RW comedian? Dennis Miller? Pfffft, he was funny before 911 but after that he flat out sucked whereas we have a virtual Army of talented comedians.

On Facebook, Barrack Obama's Werewolf Army was absolutely hilarious while attacking RW sites before he disappeared or died (yikes) along with Beaks McEagle and Duke St. Rollins among others including the Goat Army.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
5. Oh yes. I've been fighting back at these assholes the last two weeks.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:55 PM
Nov 2016

Patton is 110% correct here. People on the right and especially the alt right think they're comedians, but what they're really spewing is hateful, divisive, racist and sexist bullshit. If people aren't making the connections between the rise of the alt right and the rise of Nazi Germany, they're not paying enough attention.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
14. true, and i seriously think without the comedians the right wing would have even more control
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 06:29 AM
Nov 2016

with the failed media in this country we have to depend on the comedians .

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
6. The Son of TV's Frank is right!
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:22 PM
Nov 2016

I can't wait for the new episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000 to start!

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
7. He's so terrified he cheered terrorism killing people at trump hotels around the world.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:27 PM
Nov 2016

Sorry dude, you're NOT helping with that kind of shit.

:large

Holier than thou looks shallow when you're literally cheering on the murder of innocent people.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
11. Patton Oswalt has become a light in the darkness...
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:05 PM
Nov 2016

He's always been funny. But now he's also becoming poignant and meaningful.

Thanks for posting.

Sid

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
12. People really have not come to grasps with where this country is
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:11 PM
Nov 2016

we are now a full on authoritarian, fascist state.

It isn't because of Trump - everything was in place on November 7th - Rs had control of congress, most governors and most state houses and senates.

Trump was just the authoritarian cherry on top, not only getting the POTUS, but getting a mean ass, out and out bully and prototype fascist national leader.

Its over, the whole democratic thing. The media is fully assimilated or beaten down and the public has rolled over like a dog showing its belly - we just had RUSSIA manipulate our elections and the people of this country seriously could give a fuck.

We are going to get completely rolled, and as Oswalt noted, whatever bad occurs will be blamed on the evil liberal boogyman.

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