Pelosi slams contempt vote: Says "I could have arrested Karl Rove..."

[kentuck]

"...but we didn't".

Look out Nancy! They may be coming after you next?

Perhaps you should have arrested Karl Rove. You didn't even charge him with contempt. Maybe that is part of the problem?

edit for link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/nancy-pelosi-contempt-darrell-issa_n_1613086.html

[mattclearing]

1. Coulda woulda shoulda. nt

[Marr]

63. But look at all that DRY POWDER!!!

[FreeBC]

111. ++

[Autumn]

2. That's where you fucked up Nancy

you had a duty and an obligation to go after him. And you fucking didn't do a damn thing.

[teddy51]

24. That also applied to impeaching Bush, and she took it off the able.

[Autumn]

29. Yes she did. She picked up those fucking snakes and put them in her back pocket.

Now they will call on us to suck the poison out of her ass now that they are biting her. Not going to happen.

[Larry Ogg]

113. Hear is a video of Pelosi "double talk" explaining why impeachment is of the table.

Watch the video and listen for some of the key points.

Fast forward to 5m45s

&feature=PlayList&p=B11DDC5CABCB4AAD&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=37#t=5m45s


"If someone had a crime that the president committed, that would be a different story..." bla bla bal

"Unless you have the goods that this president committed a crime... bla bla bla

"I have total disagreement with the President on the war, the reason we went in - was based on a false premise" bla bla bal...

An interpretation in normal language, minus all the subject flip flopping and country needs to heal BS, it would sound like... No one can show me that the President committed a crime... Oh sure he lied to Congress, we went to war, we are responsible for the deaths of a million Iraqis, four thousand dead US troops, (not counting the injured and suicides) he bankrupted the country, and screwed the middle class well his rich friends got richer. But nope... He didn't do anything wrong. bla bla bla.

[KaryninMiami]

78. Thank you!

My sentiments exactly...

[MrMickeysMom]

85. + 100,000,000

Now look at what we've done.

[KatChatter]

92. Exactly if she would have went after Bush and Cheney like she should have

We would be sitting around munching popcorn watching the war crime trials of every single war criminal involved, no matter the party, standing trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

That would have been called following the rule of law and the US Constitution, something that that is in very short supply now days unless corporations want the law enforced.

It is the only way this nation will heal and if it leads to further polarization, so be it, perhaps being united was never the United States real destiny to begin with.

[hrmjustin]

3. why didn't she? n/t

[lefthandedlefty]

116. Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!

[sadbear]

4. The difference between Democrats and republicans

Republicans always hold Democrats accountable for non-crimes and Democrats never hold republicans accountable for actual crimes.

[RKP5637]

11. Excellent point!!! Also I think whereas the democrats seem to always

try to mend bridges, the republicans always try to break bridges, in short, the R's don't give a F about anything, not even the country.

[Initech]

32. Amen to that!!!

[awoke_in_2003]

48. +1. nt

[FLAprogressive]

54. +1

[wordpix]

71. +10000 and repugs will keep doing this as long as Dems "never hold republicans accountable for

actual crimes."

[davekriss]

72. so true, so true! (excellent post, sadbear!)

[Canuckistanian]

84. Ayup. n/t

[KoKo]

102. And we kept being told...."Get Active, Elect More Democrats" and we did..but, now

the truth is known,

Very sad for all of us, but particularly those who got active because of the Stolen Election, 2000 and worked to get more Dems in...and this is what we got for it.

Dems are reluctant to prosecute Crime..but the Repugs see crime in every Democrat. For decades this has been going on. So, should one conclude that something is very wrong with our system or is it just the people we elect?

[Larry Ogg]

119. Sometimes I think that it's the DLC's job to throw the Democratic base a few carrots...

While Preserving the Republican Party.

It cracks me up when elected democrats talk about how nobody is above law, and then they proceed to sweep the crimes of republicans under the carpet.

Claiming it's for our own good because the Nation needs to heal.

Were supposed to believe that it would be to traumatic for the Country to prosecute our own political criminals.

Probably because we the peons have been raped so bad by our so called leaders that once we all started finding out the truth, we would be prosecuting 98% of them.

When it gets down to it, their letting the criminals go free, because people who live in glass houses shouldn't through stones.

[Huey P. Long]

5. Thanks for the admission of YOUR guilt, Nancy.

YOU protected them.

[kenny blankenship]

6. I'll take "Why Republicans slap Democrats in the face with their dicks" for 200 Alex

[kentuck]

8. And that is the Daily Double!

You can bet up to $1000!

[Autumn]

9. I'm sorry but that line just

explains it all.

[Initech]

34. Sean Connery approves of this Daily Double!

[uponit7771]

38. +1

[Downtown Hound]

51. LOL!

[sadbear]

7. Of course, in all fairness to Speaker Pelosi,

Republicans march in lockstep when it comes to destroying Democrats. There are ALWAYS a handful of Democrats who would NEVER, UNDER ANY CONDITION, do that to republicans.

[Huey P. Long]

13. Because the game is rigged. -eom

[ArcticFox]

89. +1

[Scootaloo]

18. Yeah, you notice who it is running around crying for "Bipartisanship"

It's not the Republicans, is it?

[Little Star]

22. I can't stand that word anymore! Bipartisanship has cost us so much, all for nothing.

[Scootaloo]

26. Tell me about it

Bipartisanship was a two-decade midcentury fluke in the 237 years of our nation's history. And yet the Democrats persist in acting as though that's the natural state of our system.

Of course, much like a sizable portion of their base, the democratic party is still living in 1969.

[awoke_in_2003]

50. When I hear "bipartisanship"...

I think "BOHICA"

[Little Star]

57. "Bend Over, Here It Comes Again", Yep!

[chervilant]

96. Can I get a little kiss first? n/t

[Little Star]

97. lol

[Lasher]

19. That doesn't get Pelosi off the hook.

She didn't try to do diddly squat.

[markpkessinger]

53. Yes, and that has been the case for quite some time . . .

. . . and it's all the more reason why Democrats need to act when they CAN.

[Bandit]

10. Exactly why most Americans think of the Democratic Party as being weak

Because it is......Afraid to hold criminals accountable because it may hurt their feelings or something..

[SoCalDem]

17. and they always want to "move forward".. "leave the past behind"

and of course the repubs line up to pat them on the back as they "get down to business"..and then they all go plot their next coup and drool over the trick they have up their sleeves for the time when they take over again.

Dems get a case of conciliatory amnesia when they wrest back control, and republicans keep a scorecard so they don't forget any slight that they can use for future investigations of dems.

The little soiree on inauguration night tells us us what they are about. They NEVER EVER EVER accept the legitimacy of ANY dem, and no matter how much dems bend over backward to accommodate repubs, they will still investigate, harangue, obfuscate and impeach if possible.

[markpkessinger]

31. Refusal to "litigate the past," . . .

. . . to use the phrase coined by a certain Democratic presidential candidate, is the best way to ensure we remain mired in it.

[KoKo]

103. At some point we still have to hope that "The Truth Will OUT!" But, not in many of our lifetimes

given the extent of the criminality that goes unprosecuted.

[Huey P. Long]

21. Paid dive takers/protectors. -eom

[Aerows]

12. Assuming

Assuming that a right-winger will do the right thing is like assuming a rabid dog won't bite. You pay for a lack of common sense, and usually those penalties suck.

EDIT: and OH. What a way to waste your political capital by defending Holder, whom is a person nobody in either party has respect for because of his policies. Yeah, waste political capital on that guy.

[tularetom]

14. "Impeachment is off the table"

I'll take "things Nancy Pelosi wishes she'd never said" for $400, Alex.

[Aerows]

15. I'll take things that as Speaker

she should have done but didn't, just like Eric Holder for $1000 Alex.

[JHB]

16. Were you lulled by their friendly treatment of Bill & Hillary Clinton?

[Aerows]

20. She's a Butthead

Hell, Buttheads all of them, including Reid who is a weak as an overboiled noodle. They never stand up for the party, they just equivocate. I've always been pissed at Pelosi for letting this shit go when she was Speaker. The reason she isn't Speaker right now is because she let them get away with this shit.

[Huey P. Long]

25. Yes ma'am. Butthead isn't the word that comes to mind though. -eom

[malaise]

23. And that Nancy was your biggest mistake

You should have cleaned up the fucking mess

[Gold Metal Flake]

27. Nancy, this is why appeasement never works.

Dumbass.

[MrSlayer]

28. And that, Nancy Pelosi, is why you suck.

No wonder the Republicans feel they can roll right over us, they so obviously can. There is never any retribution, there is never any accountability. It's all "let's play nice and get along" when we're in control and when the Republicans are in control they play the hardest of ball even with the flimsiest of cases. As long as you are willing to be a punching bag, they will happily beat the shit out of you. Our party is either the party of cowardice or complicity. Both suck.

[markpkessinger]

30. But don't you see, Nancy . . .

Nancy points to the fact that she could have had Karl Rove arrested, but didn't. But don't you see Nancy, that is precisely the problem with Congressional Democrats: when they are handed an opportunity to act, they don't. Instead, they do things like declaring impeachment to be "off the table" (remember that, Nancy?). And now you whine about the GOP doing something that was totally predictable from the outset to anyone who was paying any attention at all. Democrats collectively need to grow a pair and learn to play hardball!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

33. "Impeachment is off the table"

Not your finest moment, Nancy. You aren't playing in a nice sandbox.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

35. I am quite enjoying today's theater...

We should have meltdowns like this more often.

[markpkessinger]

36. My question is . . .

. . . Does Ms. Pelosi think this "coulda, woulda, shoulda" statement actually makes her and her fellow Congressional Democrats look good?

[uponit7771]

37. You should have

[2pooped2pop]

39. Shoulda put Rove "on the table"

instead of in front of it.

[Downtown Hound]

40. And let that be a lesson to you Nancy

About why it doesn't pay to let warmongers, criminals, torturers, and terrorists off the hook.

[morningfog]

41. GODDAMNIT!!! That just pisses me off. I wish Dems have half the gumption of the

asshole repubs. Jesus that is infuriating.

If she "could have" and chose not to, she should kindly shut the fuck up.

[NRaleighLiberal]

42. .

[julian09]

52. Karl Rove is just an unelected advisor, not a big fish.

[morningfog]

55. A big fish? A big thread. If pulled on would have unraveled so much.

[Horse with no Name]

44. And this is your biggest fuck up to date Nancy

You could have also impeached the little bastard occupant and his evil minion and helped our country in the process..

but pretty much the majority of our political capital was lost trying to reach across the aisle to the vermin, who will now take you down.

If by some chance we take the house back, I sincerely hope you will do the right thing for the sake of history.

[Motown_Johnny]

45. No Nancy, not "Could Have" ... "Should Have" !

Yes, you should have done your job and actually upheld your oath.

You have nobody to blame but yourself.

[TheKentuckian]

46. Watch this go round and round and be a big mess

then down the line we get another criminal cabal of TeaPubliKlans, and when "our Democrats" take over again they'll be talking the bullshit about Impeachment/prosecution fatigue and looking forward again.

At some point your are facilitating and covering and we're way past that. Our party is a danger to the public because they refuse to hold the TeaPubliKlans accountable and when you behave like that you aren't the opposition, you're and accessory after the fact.

[kentuck]

47. Word.

[RagAss]

49. You have the nerve to say that now, Nancy?

Hang your head in shame and get off of my television !!!

[hobbit709]

56. Then why in the hell didn't you, Nancy?

[Raine]

58. They sure appreciated your niceness didn't they Nancy

it really worked out so well...

[Iggo]

59. Yes, Nancy. You could have.

We told you to.

[Moondog]

60. It's called "misfeasance" Nancy. And you're guilty of it. n/t

[humbled_opinion]

61. Yeah but isn't there a big difference between

Holding a political advisor in contempt and holding the AG who requires advice and consent are completely different things but I understand the sentiment. It is truly ashame that she failed to act even after she said that Bush admitting publicly to waterboarding (torture) was the first time that a sitting President publicly admitted to an impeachable offense. She said that and then shortly after was asking in anyone knew of an impeachable offense comitted by Bush.... Strange...........

[Marr]

62. The hilarious part is that she thinks that makes her look GOOD.

[julian09]

68. She was responsible for over 300 bills that passed the house

only to die in the senate. She went to DC to legislate not seek revenge, which doesn't create jobs, health coverage, fair taxation, etc. Can't start a new administration having congress all tied up in knots investigating and prosecuting everything. They have more urgent things the people demand. Creating an atmosphere of even more gridlock isn't in the country's interest. This is about Rove who refused to appear under subpoena.

[TheKentuckian]

90. We elect these folks to govern and that at some point requires some level of accountability

Just as obviously if you leave the criminal free and in full command of their resources they will turn around and do even worse the next time.

There hasn't been a damn thing accomplished that will do a quarter of the good that making that cabal accountable and cleaning them out.

Your way doesn't work, your calculations missing too many important variables.

If you can't grasp why then how do you process things like laws, a justice system, law enforcement, peace keeping, and courts at all?
You are focused on passing new (deeply compromised, at best, to boot) law when the ones already on the books are run over roughshod to our great general detriment. I think that is pretty much insane, building on sand.

[Larry Ogg]

115. The first job of government should be to enforce the law...

On white color and political criminals.

If that's not important, then nothing else matters, it means that predators have taken over the government, and we only live in a pretend democracy!

[Doctor_J]

121. Widespread imprisonment of traitors and felons WOULD create jobs

What this country needs most urgently right now is to get the Republicans out of office. Punishing them for their enormous list of crimes would be a huge step toward that goal. When that's done, legislation that would create jobs, provide health care, fix the tax structure, etc., would progress quickly.

[Egalitarian Thug]

64. And only five years after the fact, the light bulb finally goes off!

There were more than a few of us trying to get through back in '07, but we were those naive, paranoid, unrealistic, dreamers that serious people should never listen to.

Just how many times do we have to be right before they'll change?

[SammyWinstonJack]

65. Coulda Woulda Shoulda

[clang1]

66. re: Pelosi slams contempt vote: Says "I could have arrested Karl Rove..."

Nancy, Nancy... Why didn't you then?

[Oilwellian]

67. Yes Nancy, it would have been nice to see

[Odin2005]

69. You should have arrested him, Mrs. Spineless!

[blueknight]

70. she didnt arrest rove because

she is the most useless, gutless, do nothing dem i have seen in my lifetime. I have said this for years now, and she proved me rignt when she said this. If you wont arrest rove, of all people, what will you do?

[wordpix]

73. "I didn't arrest Karl Rove when I had the chance" b/c "it undermines the true purpose of contempt of

Congress." No, Nancy, Karl Rove's contempt of Congress is a perfect example of the "true purpose of contempt of Congress."

She's trying to justify that bad decision.

[Nye Bevan]

74. She could have had Rove arrested?

Damn.

[Proles]

75. Whenever tons of republicans perform illegal acts, Democrats turn a blind eye.

Yet if one Democrat does something wrong, republicans pounce on it like a shark.

Always has been that way though. Clinton does something naughty? Impeach him! Bush commits war crimes resulting in thousands of deaths? Just get over it.

[Solly Mack]

76. Uh.

Uh.

Uh.

I need an aspirin.

[suffragette]

77. Yes

and an Asbach chaser.

[Solly Mack]

81. That'll work. :)

For a little while anyway.

[suffragette]

82. Yeah, for a moment at least

Then it's back to WTF.

[cherokeeprogressive]

79. "I could have..." The self-centered arrogance of "public servants" never ceases to amaze me. n/t

[lovuian]

80. She is pathetic and she is getting a Wakeup Call

they will go after them any chance they get

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

83. Could've, would've should've. Didn't 95% of us say this shit years ago? nt

[sabrina 1]

86. So she did have the power? How many remember

being told they were wrong, that to push Democrats to do what was right was bad politics and how naive we were etc. etc. And they didn't have the power or whatever.

As always, the Liberals were right. So sick of this, always too late admissions from the Dem Leadership.

Did Rove ever respond to those subpoenas? Or did he just get away with thumbing his nose at Congress and Congress decided not to apply the rule of law to Republicans because you know, we never want them to say bad things about us.

Shameful that Dems when they had the power, did not use it. A travesty of justice for this country.

[Egalitarian Thug]

91. How many years has Harry Reid been keeping his powder dry?

How many time did Nancy Pelosi block progressive legislation from the floor?

Can a political party have Alzheimer's?

[wordpix]

101. "Did Rove ever respond to those subpoenas?" I believe the answer is NO

And THAT is as good a reason as any to hold him in contempt of Congress but Nancy and friends just let it slide to be good little friends to the repukes that brought us two illegal, unnecessary wars, trillion$ in debt, outing of Valerie Plame, stealing two elections...

Yah, let's play nice with the bully repukes and let them have their way, that's what we should do

[Blue Owl]

87. What. The. Fuck?

Nancy, why have you allowed Turdblossom to shit all over our democracy?

[Segami]

88. Nancy, the music has stopped and everyone grabbed a chair except you.

[CrispyQ]

93. Unfuckingbelievable.

[snot]

94. And weren't there others besides Rove?

I was thinking maybe Condoleezza, and maybe another . . .

[CanonRay]

95. Never let the other guy get up off the ground

that's what I learned streetfighting as a kid. Make no mistake about it, this is a streetfight, and Nancy likes the Marquis of Queensbury rules. Now Rove is biting us in the ass...again.

[spanone]

98. and you SHOULD HAVE.

[chervilant]

99. Dems vs. Reps

CLASSIC battering relationship dynamics:

Dems : battered spouses

Reps : batterers

A battered spouse will devote endless time and energy to placatory efforts...

[Javaman]

100. Right nancy, whatever.

how does that statement make us sleep better at night? or did you forget the 8 fucking years of misery that we all lived through with george w. moron*?

WTF?

We could have gotten him, but didn't? What does that even fucking mean?

It means she gave that fucking moron and his gaggle of paid goons a fucking free ride.

Each and every fucking day, it's statements like this from our elected Democrats which make me question why the fuck I say with the party.

[merh]

104. how contemptable...

She should have arrested him and she knows it.

Mrs Pelosi, you should have kept everything on the table and you should have followed the laws and your oath.

[bupkus]

109. And since Ms. Pelosi failed to follow the laws and her oath of office

And President Obama decided to follow in those same foolish footsteps, now the Republicans, led by criminal scum like Darrell Issa, are taking the very same measures against Democrats that Pelosi and Obama failed to take against Republicans. And do you think the Republicans will stop with Holder? LOL That farce of a House Judiciary Committee hearing yesterday is just the beginning. And all because top Democratic leadership failed in their duty to hold those members of the criminal cartel known as the Bush administration accountable for their crimes.

Pelosi now claims she could have arrested Rove? Pelosi should be too ashamed to even utter those words now.

[FlyByNight]

105. Sometimes, I don't know what annoys me more

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R lying and bullying or D cowardice and complicity?

Well, Nance, then why the fuck didn't you arrest him? Didn't want to appear impolite? Incurring the wrath of Fox "News"?

[evilhime]

106. Eaxctly!!

We take stuff of the table, like investigating Bush, or impeaching him, or single payer, before it's even been argued! The two you mention, lying/bullying and cowardice/complicity feed into each other, making them the worst congress on record . . . i say fire them all!

[chervilant]

107. Losing

the bulk of her massive portfolio?

[savannah43]

108. Why not? No explanation from you, no trust for you.

[RainbowSuperfund]

110. So has the statute of limitations run out?

So has the statute of limitations run out?

[FarCenter]

112. Why is Pelosi still in the leadership?

[raouldukelives]

114. It makes things difficult if both parties answer to the same boss.

Politicians today have to find that fine balance between serving the needs of the country while most importantly making sure Wall St & global corporations don't get too upset by it which could thereby endanger not just their own careers but those of family & compatriots who may be employed by the same industries.

[Doctor_J]

117. But you didn't and that's why we're here

what a disaster

[SHRED]

118. Then Pelosi helped create the Rove beast

When she had a chance to knock him down she did nothing.

[KoKo]

120. Why would Nancy say this now? It would seem to be mocking

the efforts of all those who worked so hard to expose Rove and dug out the information about his efforts and how long he'd been working to destroy the Dem Party.

The article says that the reporters "laughed" at her comment,.

Why would she say such a thing which only serves to discourage and undermine the very Democrats working for truth and justice?

Why? What does she or our Party get out of her joke? Throwing what she didn't do in our faces?