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Thu Dec 15, 2016, 06:15 PM

 

DEMS paving the way to impeach Trump

here's some hope for us:

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/democrats-pave-the-way-to-impeach-donald-trump?mbid=nl_CH_5852ed5c1f0e0969155abf9a&CNDID=45600135

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 06:21 PM

1. For what? President Pence?

 

Not sure what that actually would get us.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 06:31 PM

5. A bitter pill to swallow but still probably preferrable.

Pence would be covered in the stink of Trump and would probably be vulnerable in 2020. Unlike Trump, I don't see the risk of him deteriorating into an autocratic despot who will threaten the most basic democratic institutions of the country, just a really shitty Republican president a la George W. Bush.

If Pence is President, I'm fairly confident we'll have elections in 2020. With Trump, I'm far less so.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 06:26 PM

2. Symbolic action?

From the article:

The legislation would symbolically make violations of federal conflict-of-interest rules a high crime or misdemeanor under the impeachment clause of the U.S. Constitution.


I added the highlight.

And with a GOP controlled Congress, what would be the likely outcome?

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 06:26 PM

3. The title doesn't really match the article at all,

And without control of either the house or the senate, nothing they say will "pave the way" for anything.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 06:28 PM

4. When you are in the Minority in both Chambers and

you have lost the White House,good luck with that bogus Idea. If you think the House of Representatives will move a Impeachment Bill,wow,it is party over Country folks,Mitch McConnell nailed that door shut once and for all.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 06:43 PM

6. Will never happen. tRump could have live sex with a six year old and still not be impeached.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 07:20 PM

7. Things will have to get so outrageously bad over the next two years

that Democrats retake the House and Senate in 2018.

Impeachment isn't enough, removal from office is the goal. His corrupt party will never remove him.

They've been seeking revenge over Nixon for the last 42 years. If you were wondering, it's what the Clinton impeachment was all about. I can't imagine how long their spiterulness over removing Twittler would last.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 07:25 PM

9. Man these people really know how to hold a grudge.

We don't complain about Clinton's impeachment the same way they complained about Nixon. Just let it go and move on, you can't change history.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 07:22 PM

8. Additionally, if anyone thinks our elections will be decided by voters from here on

They're wrong. An entire new and dirty play book has been put in place with this one election. If there was actually hacking of voter machines or tabulators or damaging leaks -- it will be used in those state/precincts until it is stopped. And because those states that seem to hold all the cards in winning elections are all controlled by republicans, it won't stop. It will be used in local election and state elections. Because on a federal level, the republicans control all of the decisions to investigate and stop it, and they won't.

This is a new era where our elections will be controlled and manipulated like no other time in history.

Karl Rove's goal of a permanent republican majority is probably coming true.

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