'CalExit' - state's economy is large enough for California to become a sovereign country.
(California is now the sixth-largest economy in the world, surpassing France, thanks to a robust state economy and strong U.S. dollar.)
http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/09/calexit-campaign-planning-post-election-surge/
In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children.
Although charity is part of our culture, when you consider that California’s infrastructure is falling apart, our public schools are ranked among the worst in the entire country, we have the highest number of homeless persons living without shelter and other basic necessities, poverty rates remain high, income inequality continues to expand, and we must often borrow money from the future to provide services for today, now is not the time for charity.
If California established sovereignty, the campaign argues, it would be able to implement educational and healthcare-related programs addressing the state's issues while retaining Social Security and Medicare rights for residents, since they would be dual citizens of both California and the U.S.
The campaign also published a map showing California reconfigured into 16 states if it were to secede.
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What happens to that? 
They're the ones who are dividing the country over petty bullshit. The polls are clear - the public wants liberal policies. The public wants liberal leadership. The GOP and the NRA are the ones who are dividing and conquering - mainly over that precious second amendment. The GOP conquered the media and is denouncing anyone with an opposing viewpoint. It's fascism 101. 
whatever...
You obviously think you can read my mind. You should get a Vegas gig going and make some money off that talent. 
Louis Marinelli heads the secessionist group Yes California. Following the election of Donald Trump to the presidency, the organization has gone from an unknown fringe group to one discussed seriously in mainstream media.
What has not been discussed as prominently is Marinelli’s deep ties to Russia.
A former right-wing activist from Buffalo, New York, Marinelli first moved to Russia almost a decade ago. He studied at St. Petersburg State University, the alma mater of Russian President Vladimir Putin. He returned to the United States to campaign against LGBTQ rights as part of the National Organization for Marriage.
Marinelli then returned to Russia. He would marry a Russian citizen, and the couple moved to San Diego, where Marinelli launched a political career based on a platform of California secession.
“I immigrated to California, and I consider myself to be a Californian,” Marinelli says from his apartment in Yekaterinburg, a city of about 1.4 million just east of the Ural Mountains and about 1,000 miles from Moscow.
In an interview with The California Report, Marinelli confirms he’s living and working in Russia as a teacher.
More in link plus audio: http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/12/13/from-his-home-in-russia-calexit-leader-plots-california-secession/
Cal exit opens "embassy" in Russia
http://www.notey.com/blogs/calexit
There is Louis Marinelli in burgundy suit!
SEP 2016. Moscow welcomes the (would-be) sovereign nations of California and Texas:
The speaker was calling for California’s independence from the United States.
Alexei Gavrilko nodded approvingly. A burly, bearded, camouflage-wearing separatist from eastern Ukraine, he said he had come to the posh Moscow hotel just outside the Kremlin to “communicate with colleagues” representing separatist and secessionist groups from the United States, Europe, the Middle East and the former Soviet Union.
During a conference dubbed the Dialogue of Nations, Gavrilko listened carefully to Louis Marinelli, head of the Yes California group that is determined to hold the Golden State’s “independence referendum” in 2019.
“For the first time in history, we, the people of California, who were conquered and annexed by the American military about 170 years ago, will have a chance to express our voice to either remain a state in the American union, or instead, to pursue a path toward a nationhood,” Marinelli said solemnly.
Gavrilko, who is from the unrecognized but de facto independent Donetsk region, and the entire separatist crowd cheered and applauded. They did it again, louder, when Nate Smith, a self-proclaimed “foreign minister” of the Texas Nationalist Movement, promised that one day, the independent Lone Star state “can formally exchange ambassadors with your free and independent countries.”
The arrival of Californian, Texan, Puerto Rican, Northern Irish, Catalan, Italian and Lebanese secessionists to mingle with activists from several unrecognized separatist territories in former Soviet republics is becoming a tradition as Moscow turns to belligerent, anti-Western nationalism coupled with a readiness to take up arms against its former Soviet vassals.
Moscow uses these gatherings to promote its political agenda, gain more political leverage in the West and push for the lifting of Western sanctions imposed on Moscow after its 2014 annexation of Crimea and support of the separatists in eastern Ukraine, a former lawmaker with the ruling United Russia party said.
“The more the West is disunited, the more beneficial it is to Russia,” Sergei Markov said, adding that the secession of California and Texas — a prospect that would appear to be something of a long shot — would “undoubtedly benefit” the Kremlin.
http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-separatists-snap-story.html
The more the West is disunited, the more beneficial it is to Russia,
“The more the West is disunited, the more beneficial it is to Russia,” Sergei Markov said, adding that the secession of California and Texas — a prospect that would appear to be something of a long shot — would “undoubtedly benefit” the Kremlin.
http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-separatists-snap-story.html
There will be many ways of alternative energy. The Ocean turbines are already being built and tested. The state has abundant solar and wind power. There are already many companies installing solar power, including the many roofs, here in San Francisco. There are fields of wind turbines already going up. As mentioned, Blythe and Twenty Nine palms are too areas for more Solar power. Check out this in Japan:
This is already built in Japan and working, and it wouldn't take long for these to go up in California.
Already off the coast of Southern California are many oil oil derricks as well as on certain beaches in Huntington Beach and Long Beach. Until many more alternatives can be built, these will continue to contribute.
Diablo Canyon (2,160 megawatts), near San Luis Obispo is still available.
California can be self sufficient, maybe not NEXT YEAR, but in the near future. If the state was gearing up to make the leap you can bet they will have their house in order.
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