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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes anyone remember Nixon or RayGun being as bad as Benedict Donald?
On the national security front I can't imagine either former presidents kissing up to a US adversary like KingCon is doing.
On the issue of intelligence KingCon is a pretty brainless dude outside of cheating people out of their money he's decent at mindless word word salad though. Bush was pretty apathetic of anything outside of oil..
Morals !?... DPutin, Nixon, Bush and Raygun are all bold faced ass'd liars so it looks like they're even there... I don't remember Nixon or Raygun being an overt racist and sexual predator
Could KingCon be the worst in the last 60 years,
Thx in advance
jehop61
(1,735 posts)He is by far the worst and first one to instill fear in me.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... because I don't see a dem winning anytime soon
no_hypocrisy
(46,080 posts)American democracy at the end of their terms.
Trump is threatening our existence as well as our government and society.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes - they were bad but Trump is on a completely different level. Trump is in fascist dictator territory.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Nixon's people were in discussion with North Vietnam prior to the election.
Reagan's people were in discussion with Iran re: the hostages.
Treason in both cases.
All three used racial resentment as a motivator.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)We are living the end times of his policies and brainwashing from the media that started up big time back then.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Benedict Donald: Love it and will hence for use it! Thanks uponit7777
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)MattP
(3,304 posts)With W
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)Trump is far worse than either Nixon or Reagan. He has their negative qualities, plus many that are more pathological and toxic. More, he has none of their less-bad (as close to "good" as either was) qualities.
MANative
(4,112 posts)I know it's not emotionally healthy for me to feel this much hatred, but I must confess that it's white-hot for these three. I can only hope that tRump joins the other two clowns VERY soon, wherever they are.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Both men had governing and public service experience. Both had knowledge of geopolitics. Nixon had been VP and Reagan had been CA's Governor. Both men are probably rolling in their graves with the prospect that a Know-Nothing Narcissist is about to enter the WH.
If there's any silver lining to the next 4 years it's that the Republican Party, each and every member, supporter and voter, own the disaster that's coming our way.
It's our job as Democrats to make sure everyone remembers that simple, devastating point.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)Unlike Trump he was well read. Crime-wise, I bet the Trumpenfuhrer can give Nixon a run for the money, too.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Reagan did business selling guns to fund illegal contras. He launched his general election campaign in Philadelphia Mississippi talking about state's rights where they had killed voting right's workers 16 years before. He tried to veto the MLK federal holiday.
As for Nixon, he started the Southern Strategy and was an open anti-Semite and racist when talking to his aides. Richard Nixon started the war on drugs that has resulted in the incarceration of millions of young black men. John Ehrlichman who was on Nixon's staff has said it was meant to target blacks.
Trump is an idiot and has a great chance to screw things up, but it's hard to already lump him as the worst president of all time. Yes Trump has appealed to racists, but that isn't new, nor was it his only appeal unlike George Wallace. Pretending otherwise just looks silly.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... other appeals besides being a racist?
My fuckin god, republicans are straight up the dark side of this force... racist, treasonous, anti democracy and it looks like the elections conservatives had to win the EMPIRICALLY cheated to do so !!!
tia
Cosmocat
(14,563 posts)Over the last quarter century:
The Republican party has become exponentially more angry, detached from reality, win at all costs and extremist in its views.
The media has completely abandoned any pretense of engaging in actual journalism, has lost all sense of service while engaging in self gratuitousness and of course becoming whores to the Republicans.
The country as a whole is now flat out stupid as fuck.
Trump is not happening in a vacuum.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... Benedict Donald
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Seems like we forget that sometimes.
onenote
(42,694 posts)Seems like folks here are too young or are otherwise unaware of things like the Enemies list and some of other things Nixon actually tried to do (including the secret bombing of Cambodia).