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uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 05:00 PM Jan 2017

Does anyone remember Nixon or RayGun being as bad as Benedict Donald?

On the national security front I can't imagine either former presidents kissing up to a US adversary like KingCon is doing.

On the issue of intelligence KingCon is a pretty brainless dude outside of cheating people out of their money he's decent at mindless word word salad though. Bush was pretty apathetic of anything outside of oil..

Morals !?... DPutin, Nixon, Bush and Raygun are all bold faced ass'd liars so it looks like they're even there... I don't remember Nixon or Raygun being an overt racist and sexual predator


Could KingCon be the worst in the last 60 years,


Thx in advance

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Does anyone remember Nixon or RayGun being as bad as Benedict Donald? (Original Post) uponit7771 Jan 2017 OP
Been voting since '64 jehop61 Jan 2017 #1
Which one stands out? Ignorance, Immoral, self serving, racist? The treason one stands out to me uponit7771 Jan 2017 #9
Nixon and Reagan were awful in their own idiosyncratic ways but you always believed there would be no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #2
Trump is a whole new level of terrible. yardwork Jan 2017 #3
Yes. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #4
OK... seems like conservatives have been using outside help to win elections for a while now uponit7771 Jan 2017 #10
Trump is the worst but Reagan started this mess nini Jan 2017 #5
THAT'S IT! Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #6
Wasn't from me but it lights his Band Of Bigots hair on fire they hate that he's tied to treason uponit7771 Jan 2017 #11
The way they shifted the courts set up this whole corporate kleptocracy MattP Jan 2017 #7
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2017 #8
This! n/t MANative Jan 2017 #13
The two of them laid the foundation for this piece of human excrement. MANative Jan 2017 #12
Nixon & Reagan peggysue2 Jan 2017 #14
WOW !!! Shit... KingCon is smart at grifting and the sail nothing else... shit... we're proper screw uponit7771 Jan 2017 #16
Reagan at least had some experience as governor and Nixon was not a stupid man. Vinca Jan 2017 #15
Iran Contra mythology Jan 2017 #17
What about open ties to US adversaries like Benedict Donald? Also what is Trumps uponit7771 Jan 2017 #18
It isn't him alone Cosmocat Jan 2017 #19
+1, "The country as a whole is now flat out stupid as fuck." or at least the part that voted for uponit7771 Jan 2017 #20
+1,000 AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #21
Trump isn't president yet oberliner Jan 2017 #22
exactly. until he starts doing things, he can't be regarded as worse than Nixon onenote Jan 2017 #23

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
9. Which one stands out? Ignorance, Immoral, self serving, racist? The treason one stands out to me
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 06:05 PM
Jan 2017

... because I don't see a dem winning anytime soon

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
2. Nixon and Reagan were awful in their own idiosyncratic ways but you always believed there would be
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 05:10 PM
Jan 2017

American democracy at the end of their terms.

Trump is threatening our existence as well as our government and society.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
3. Trump is a whole new level of terrible.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 05:14 PM
Jan 2017

Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes - they were bad but Trump is on a completely different level. Trump is in fascist dictator territory.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. Yes.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 05:23 PM
Jan 2017

Nixon's people were in discussion with North Vietnam prior to the election.

Reagan's people were in discussion with Iran re: the hostages.

Treason in both cases.

All three used racial resentment as a motivator.

nini

(16,672 posts)
5. Trump is the worst but Reagan started this mess
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 05:24 PM
Jan 2017

We are living the end times of his policies and brainwashing from the media that started up big time back then.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
8. Recommended.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 05:52 PM
Jan 2017

Trump is far worse than either Nixon or Reagan. He has their negative qualities, plus many that are more pathological and toxic. More, he has none of their less-bad (as close to "good" as either was) qualities.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
12. The two of them laid the foundation for this piece of human excrement.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 06:14 PM
Jan 2017

I know it's not emotionally healthy for me to feel this much hatred, but I must confess that it's white-hot for these three. I can only hope that tRump joins the other two clowns VERY soon, wherever they are.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
14. Nixon & Reagan
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jan 2017

Both men had governing and public service experience. Both had knowledge of geopolitics. Nixon had been VP and Reagan had been CA's Governor. Both men are probably rolling in their graves with the prospect that a Know-Nothing Narcissist is about to enter the WH.

If there's any silver lining to the next 4 years it's that the Republican Party, each and every member, supporter and voter, own the disaster that's coming our way.

It's our job as Democrats to make sure everyone remembers that simple, devastating point.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
15. Reagan at least had some experience as governor and Nixon was not a stupid man.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 06:20 PM
Jan 2017

Unlike Trump he was well read. Crime-wise, I bet the Trumpenfuhrer can give Nixon a run for the money, too.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
17. Iran Contra
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 07:08 PM
Jan 2017

Reagan did business selling guns to fund illegal contras. He launched his general election campaign in Philadelphia Mississippi talking about state's rights where they had killed voting right's workers 16 years before. He tried to veto the MLK federal holiday.

As for Nixon, he started the Southern Strategy and was an open anti-Semite and racist when talking to his aides. Richard Nixon started the war on drugs that has resulted in the incarceration of millions of young black men. John Ehrlichman who was on Nixon's staff has said it was meant to target blacks.

Trump is an idiot and has a great chance to screw things up, but it's hard to already lump him as the worst president of all time. Yes Trump has appealed to racists, but that isn't new, nor was it his only appeal unlike George Wallace. Pretending otherwise just looks silly.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
18. What about open ties to US adversaries like Benedict Donald? Also what is Trumps
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jan 2017

... other appeals besides being a racist?

My fuckin god, republicans are straight up the dark side of this force... racist, treasonous, anti democracy and it looks like the elections conservatives had to win the EMPIRICALLY cheated to do so !!!

tia

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
19. It isn't him alone
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jan 2017

Over the last quarter century:

The Republican party has become exponentially more angry, detached from reality, win at all costs and extremist in its views.

The media has completely abandoned any pretense of engaging in actual journalism, has lost all sense of service while engaging in self gratuitousness and of course becoming whores to the Republicans.

The country as a whole is now flat out stupid as fuck.

Trump is not happening in a vacuum.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
20. +1, "The country as a whole is now flat out stupid as fuck." or at least the part that voted for
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 10:39 PM
Jan 2017

... Benedict Donald

onenote

(42,694 posts)
23. exactly. until he starts doing things, he can't be regarded as worse than Nixon
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:16 AM
Jan 2017

Seems like folks here are too young or are otherwise unaware of things like the Enemies list and some of other things Nixon actually tried to do (including the secret bombing of Cambodia).

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