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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:37 PM Jan 2017

Trump Humiliates Billionaire David Koch By Throwing His Guest Off Trump Golf Course...


So this past Friday, Trump threw a guest of billionaire Industrialist David Koch off Trump’s West Palm Beach Golf Club. Koch’s guest, Harry Hurt III who’d written an unflattering bio of Trump, walked over to Trump and congratulated him on winning the election. Trump’s reaction was to have his private security goons ‘escort’ Hurt out to the parking lot. Updating- Koch decided to leave with his guests.
Trump just dissed David Koch, a REAL billionaire who isn’t in debt to Russian oligarchs and Putin.

Koch is the guy who funds Republican candidates using a political machine that operates on a larger level than the RNC. They own many Congressional Republicans by funding their careers. They control Congressional budget writing. And back in May the Kochs went on record as not supporting Trump for POTUS and possibly backing Clinton. One has to wonder what really went on last Friday. Did the David Koch knowingly invite an author who Trump hates just to piss Trump off? Did they set the stage for Trump’s political demise? Maybe the bagpipes will be playing for Trump’s presidency sooner rather than later.

In any event, Koch is responsible for getting many Congressional Republicans elected. Those Republicans care a lot more about protecting Koch interests than Trump’s political career. So maybe Trump shouldn’t have dissed Koch like that. Especially in public. At a golf course where Koch is a PAYING member.



Donald Trump personally booted the author of an unflattering biography off Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach on Friday. Harry Hurt III, who penned the 1993 biography, Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump, had come to play with billionaire industrialist David. H. Koch, a Trump club member, and two other golfers. Hurt, who has a scratch handicap and plays in colorful knickers, walked over to Trump on the practice range prior to his group’s assigned tee time, only to suffer a tongue lashing from the president-elect. “I said, ‘Congratulations, sir,’ and shook his hand,” Hurt recalls.
Trump said, ‘You were rough on me, Harry. Really rough. That shit you wrote.’” Hurt says he looked Trump in the eye, and said, “It’s all true,” to which Trump rejoined, “Not in the way you wrote it.” Among the juicy tidbits in Hurt’s tome was Ivana Trump’s allegation in a sworn deposition that Trump had “raped” her during their divorce battle. Trump told Hurt it was “inappropriate” for him to play at the club, and had his security detail escort Hurt, Koch, and their playing partners to the parking lot. “David was appalled,” says Hurt. “He branded Trump ‘petty’ and vulgar.’ We played Emerald Dunes instead, which is a much, much better golf course than Trump International.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/1/1616133/-Trump-Humiliates-Billionaire-David-Koch-By-Throwing-Him-His-Guest-Off-Trump-Golf-Course
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Trump Humiliates Billionaire David Koch By Throwing His Guest Off Trump Golf Course... (Original Post) HipChick Jan 2017 OP
so he's using the secret service to harass his personal enemies.....what a vindictive asshole spanone Jan 2017 #1
I think that was the private security force he plans to keep while in the WH. Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #3
The Red Guard? elehhhhna Jan 2017 #6
Don't LOL. It is not funny... pangaia Jan 2017 #7
Orange Guard.... n/t lastlib Jan 2017 #27
Brown Shirts R Merm Jan 2017 #32
whoever it is, i bet we're paying for it. spanone Jan 2017 #9
Where would one go to find out, since the transition team won't deign to answer? Tanuki Jan 2017 #17
Who was punking who? C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #2
What a scary time to be alive, living in America... still can't believe people bought into this crap! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #5
I can. Very scary time indeed. Missn-Hitch Jan 2017 #15
It's only a matter of time before he pisses everyone off lindysalsagal Jan 2017 #4
The Koch's winter home is right down the road and they used to be close friends. Hahaha, that may monmouth4 Jan 2017 #8
They should have a duel nini Jan 2017 #10
I think the Koch's could destroy Trump gwheezie Jan 2017 #11
Good point. Missn-Hitch Jan 2017 #20
How did you figure out which one to root for? EOM physioex Jan 2017 #36
Not necessarily "rooting", just observing. Like watching chimps throw feces at each other. Missn-Hitch Jan 2017 #39
He's their useful idiot SHRED Jan 2017 #12
Excellent! Soon they'll be eating their own young! Squinch Jan 2017 #13
Giving the boot to a Koch might just be the one good thing Trump has ever done with his life. :) nt bekkilyn Jan 2017 #14
So which KOCH is this - 2 are together/wingnuts & the 3rd is who-knows-what UTUSN Jan 2017 #16
Apparently this was David Koch lastlib Jan 2017 #28
Is this the beginning? leanforward Jan 2017 #18
This will be interesting. C Moon Jan 2017 #19
It's very sad ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #21
Much as I hate to admit it Retrograde Jan 2017 #23
Trump is going out of his way to Golden Raisin Jan 2017 #22
+1 truebluegreen Jan 2017 #26
I am looking forward ellie Jan 2017 #24
The only down side is, rogue emissary Jan 2017 #25
I'm waiting for the film der Untergang II to come out 47of74 Jan 2017 #30
pense is nothing to look forward to Merlot Jan 2017 #31
I agree.... physioex Jan 2017 #35
Maybe the Koch's will turn on the A.. hole and help bring him down. (?) YOHABLO Jan 2017 #29
Normally this would tickle me pink DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #33
This is what happens when you act without thinking. Which BTW is a scary trait in a President stevenleser Jan 2017 #34
This scans like theater to me, especially with so many Pro-Koch being appointed. suffragette Jan 2017 #37
From 1993? He nursed this grudge for 23 years? Hamlette Jan 2017 #38

Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)
3. I think that was the private security force he plans to keep while in the WH.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:44 PM
Jan 2017

And here's hoping that decision comes to the worst of all possible outcomes for him.

spanone

(135,816 posts)
9. whoever it is, i bet we're paying for it.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 10:13 PM
Jan 2017
But who is paying for this private security force that seems to be unauthorized by anyone accountable to the American taxpayer? Politico asked the transition team who was paying, how they were going to work with the Secret Service and what their roles will be. The Trump transition team avoided the question. An email by Salon similarly went unanswered.


http://www.salon.com/2016/12/19/donald-trumps-private-security-team-will-follow-him-to-the-white-house/

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
2. Who was punking who?
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:44 PM
Jan 2017

Looks like Koch was trying to tweak Trump
by bringing the writer and Trump predictably
threw a tantrum. We're ruled by infantile overlords.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
5. What a scary time to be alive, living in America... still can't believe people bought into this crap!
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:49 PM
Jan 2017

monmouth4

(9,694 posts)
8. The Koch's winter home is right down the road and they used to be close friends. Hahaha, that may
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 10:02 PM
Jan 2017

have changed in the last few days. Donnie ticked off the wrong guy and that really pleases me. Let's wait and see what happens with this, could be interesting..

lastlib

(23,204 posts)
28. Apparently this was David Koch
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:31 AM
Jan 2017

(IMHO, the more dangerously radical of the two). Not someone DT should be p*ssing off. Oh well, pass the pocorn....

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Golden Raisin

(4,608 posts)
22. Trump is going out of his way to
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:02 AM
Jan 2017

publicly antagonize powerful folks like the CIA and the Koch Brothers. I wouldn't want either as my enemies. But I guess this is just another example of Trump showing us all that he's really "smart".

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
30. I'm waiting for the film der Untergang II to come out
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:33 AM
Jan 2017

Especially the Orange Hitlerian rant when he finds out that he's been impeached and removed by the Senate and the police are coming to arrest him.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
33. Normally this would tickle me pink
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:45 AM
Jan 2017

One of the few things that we can look forward to as a sort of safety is the fact that a lot of the billionaires, now that their side has supposedly achieved power, will start turning all that animosity and subterfuge against each other. It is no secret that not only did the Koch brothers dislike Donald Trump, but that they also resent the idea that they are not the main funders of the conservative movement anymore. They pretty much ran the GOP as if they were the Wizard of Oz, and nobody dared look behind that curtain. Trump, for all his million flaws, showed that those two brothers were not the only game in town. It also helps that Trump has a cabinet that is comprised of two types of people, either those rich enough to be billionaires in their own right, and those that in 2020 could go ahead and hit the Koch brothers up for funds to seek revenge against Mr. Trump.

Come now, you really didn't think that the reason why he took Mitt Romney to dinner was because he wanted to show him a good time? You really did not think that the reason he made sure Rick Perry got a job was his great expertise dealing with the Department of Energy? Indeed, I will not be surprised at all if when all is said and done, he makes damn sure Sarah Palin has some sort of job. That way even when these people start hitting up the Koch brothers in 2019, all of them ready and eager to launch that primary which many Republicans really want, they will already start out compromised. Of course, none of us really think that that will stop the two brothers from funding this, do we? After all, the one thing Trump has done is that he has lowered, if not shattered the bar for shame. The Republicans that will fight Trump are not going to do so with their illusions of high ideals. Maybe the evangelicals will, don't tell me that Ted Cruz or for that matter Mike Pence are not sharpening their sermons so that they can volunteer for the role of America's preacher in a bully pulpit. But used to tell whoever runs against Trump will probably sell themselves as someone that can out fight Trump in the streets, and Koch money, as well as all the other billionaires who feel slighted that Trump is not kissing their ring can buy a lot of illusion, illusion that plays very well in the red states.

So why am I not tickled pink at the whole idea that the Koch brothers and the Trump family can have this nice little bloodbath where they cut each other and make them easy pickings for us in 2020? The reason why is that we can see an actual game of one-upsmanship where a bunch of billionaires try to outdo each other to prove that they will be the one that finishes liberalism off. Of course we should be prepared to be agile, cunning and exploit this to the hilt, however let's not have any illusions they will try to go ahead and sell the red state voter that they are the one that should be given the task of exterminating liberals, and that means they will want to go ahead and get some trophy heads on their wall now! What sort of trophies? Social Security, Medicare, Immigration. What makes the Koch brothers more deadly is that they can pretend to be libertarians. They can go ahead and say "look legalizing marijuana would be just as good for black people as it would be for us." Nevermind the fact that they would plan to go ahead and get minorities in 10,000 other ways, not the least of which is allowing for the sort of pollution that makes Flint Michigan look like Perrier water. But while we Democrats tell ourselves that we appeal to reason, all the right wing has to do is say "we are offering you better than those other guys." If we want to go ahead and make the most of the next four years we are going to have to do more than just point out that what our enemies offer sucks. People are hungry enough to swallow things that they would have thrown in the garbage few years ago. This is where we go ahead and show yes we had actual working proven solutions to problems of poverty, we are the ones in whose administrations unemployment goes down, we are the ones who realize that letting the banks offer a leash is a bad idea. Granted, we do have some Democrats who find the idea of moving left word uncomfortable, however, the idea that all we can do is offer damage reduction is not going to sell, especially in 2020 when the Koch brothers and very kindred spirits start unleashing their money to not only avenge their insults at the hands of Democrats, but the serious insult but Trump has given them.

PS: if anyone does get the proverbial "smoking gun" that proves Moscow was involved in election hacking, I offer this prediction. It will not be from the Democrats, it will not be from Snowden, Assange, anonymous, or any of the other names that come to mind. It will probably come from a source founded by the Koch brothers, because they knew their position as the default Kings of the GOP was taken from, and they will want to go ahead and make sure that anyone associated with Donald Trump goes down in disgrace. Think of it as the political equivalent to people avoiding playing the inaugural ball because they know that their careers will take damage.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
34. This is what happens when you act without thinking. Which BTW is a scary trait in a President
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:30 AM
Jan 2017

When you act out of hurt ego without thinking you alienate lots of people, allies and enemies alike.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
37. This scans like theater to me, especially with so many Pro-Koch being appointed.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 03:03 AM
Jan 2017
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/behind-make-america-great-the-koch-agenda-returns-with-a-vengeance

For the emerging Trump White House, Vice President Mike Pence, long a Koch network favorite, was put in charge of transition planning for federal personnel appointments – and one of his senior staffers for this effort is his long-time associate, Marc Short, recent head of Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, the lynchpin of the Koch network’s fundraising operation. (Starting in 2011, Freedom Partners became the Koch network’s “political bank”, charged with collecting hefty contributions from some 400 to 500 conservative millionaires and billionaires who attend the twice-yearly “Koch seminars” that convene at posh resorts to plan strategies and channel resources to selected conservative think tanks, issue advocacy groups, and activist and voter mobilization efforts, especially those controlled by the Koch network itself.) In addition to Pence and Short, newly-named White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus has had strong ties to AFP’s chapter in Wisconsin – a chapter that has been central to all aspects of politics and policy in that state during the ascendancy of Governor Scott Walker.

Personnel is policy, as the saying goes. Significantly, our research tracking operatives’ careers in AFP shows that key Koch officials have, for years, regularly moved on to important positions on Republican electoral and governing staffs. In the past, those plum governing positions have been in governors’ offices and on Congressional staffs. Now the Trump White House personnel operation can recruit many AFP and other Koch-groomed operatives and place them throughout the federal executive branch. So far, the process is moving right along. For example, the newly designated CIA chief, Mike Pompeo, has close Koch network ties, as do other transition advisers like Kris Kobach, a hardline Trump advisor on immigration policy who may end up in some key post in the new administration.

White House and executive staffing through Koch networks is only part of the Trump story, however, because Pence and Priebus have ready-made bridges to Congressional GOP leaders who are themselves closely aligned with the Koch network. After apparently denouncing and opposing GOP House Speaker Paul Ryan during the election campaign, President-Elect Trump did a quick about-face to fully embrace Ryan and his radical government-shrinking policy agenda. Speaker Ryan has been a featured politician at many Koch donor conclaves over the years, and Washington Post reporter Matea Gold has described Ryan as “clearly a favorite of the Koch donor network.” It is not hard to see why. Ryan’s main priorities, already spelled out in budgets that House Republicans have repeatedly passed, include slashing federal funding for Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other parts of the social safety net for the poor; privatizing Medicare for future generations of American retirees; instituting large and regressive tax cuts rewarding corporations and the very wealthy; gutting what remains of labor regulations and union rights; and eliminating business and environmental regulations. Ryan’s budget plans, now ready to push through Congress to a Republican president’s desk, align perfectly with the Koch network’s ultra-free market libertarian plans to virtually dismantle the U.S. federal government as a domestic welfare and economic force. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has also developed deep ties to the Koch network, and has previewed his plans for undoing Obama-era initiatives in closed-door Koch donor meetings.

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
38. From 1993? He nursed this grudge for 23 years?
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 03:06 AM
Jan 2017

the Serbs and Croats nursed grudges going back many years. They took 100 years to settle one score for instance. I never hold a grudge for more than an hour, maybe I don't ever trust that person again but I would NEVER do anything like this.

We need to send Trump a copy of Miss Manners.

Holy shit. 23 years later. What a petty, small man he is.

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